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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Tommy T. » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:25 pm

I'm with ya, I prefer all the datsun boys being the same mold also. Love the fact they bringing barricade in. I'll definitely grab him. But I also don't see them using the same mold 4 times. Even though I would love it if they did the original seekers then did the rainmakers!!!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:55 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:The reveal of Deluxe Barricade is very interesting. Even more so is the notion that he might be a repaint/retool of Siege Prowl (whom we still have not seen in toy form). What's unfortunate, though, is that it's that much more unlikely we'll see Siege Bluestreak or Smokescreen, at least not in this first part of the trilogy.


It is possible that Barricade is a massive 'reshell' rather than a retool with a new head and color scheme, much like how some CW cars or some TR figures used the same overall body shape but looked different. It is possible that Barricade is even a completely new car mold intended to be used for someone else and they just added some roof lights and a new head.


Don't count on Barricade being a simple redeco, or even based on Prowl, just yet. His IDW design takes cues from both G1 Micromaster Barricade, and Movie Barricade. Chances are we'll get a mix. Wouldn't be the first time we got a cop toy in the form of a racing car:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:06 pm

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Skritz wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:The reveal of Deluxe Barricade is very interesting. Even more so is the notion that he might be a repaint/retool of Siege Prowl (whom we still have not seen in toy form). What's unfortunate, though, is that it's that much more unlikely we'll see Siege Bluestreak or Smokescreen, at least not in this first part of the trilogy.


It is possible that Barricade is a massive 'reshell' rather than a retool with a new head and color scheme, much like how some CW cars or some TR figures used the same overall body shape but looked different. It is possible that Barricade is even a completely new car mold intended to be used for someone else and they just added some roof lights and a new head.


It's also possible Barricade is just a redeco of the Red Alert tooling of Sideswipe :SG-CONS:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:21 pm

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Wireless_Phantom wrote:
Skritz wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:The reveal of Deluxe Barricade is very interesting. Even more so is the notion that he might be a repaint/retool of Siege Prowl (whom we still have not seen in toy form). What's unfortunate, though, is that it's that much more unlikely we'll see Siege Bluestreak or Smokescreen, at least not in this first part of the trilogy.


It is possible that Barricade is a massive 'reshell' rather than a retool with a new head and color scheme, much like how some CW cars or some TR figures used the same overall body shape but looked different. It is possible that Barricade is even a completely new car mold intended to be used for someone else and they just added some roof lights and a new head.


It's also possible Barricade is just a redeco of the Red Alert tooling of Sideswipe :SG-CONS:


Good point: any car mode with a lightbar is eligible. I mean, eHobby Clamp Down, a police car, is in fact just a redecoed Red Alert (based on his Diaclone release). Poor paranoid Alert...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:06 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Skritz wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:The reveal of Deluxe Barricade is very interesting. Even more so is the notion that he might be a repaint/retool of Siege Prowl (whom we still have not seen in toy form). What's unfortunate, though, is that it's that much more unlikely we'll see Siege Bluestreak or Smokescreen, at least not in this first part of the trilogy.


It is possible that Barricade is a massive 'reshell' rather than a retool with a new head and color scheme, much like how some CW cars or some TR figures used the same overall body shape but looked different. It is possible that Barricade is even a completely new car mold intended to be used for someone else and they just added some roof lights and a new head.


Don't count on Barricade being a simple redeco, or even based on Prowl, just yet. His IDW design takes cues from both G1 Micromaster Barricade, and Movie Barricade. Chances are we'll get a mix. Wouldn't be the first time we got a cop toy in the form of a racing car:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:19 pm

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william-james88 wrote:I am very surprized thats the example you picked for a police racecar TF.


The more obscure the better :lol: MW Prowl is far from the only one, look at his
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:50 pm

Wireless_Phantom wrote:
Skritz wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:The reveal of Deluxe Barricade is very interesting. Even more so is the notion that he might be a repaint/retool of Siege Prowl (whom we still have not seen in toy form). What's unfortunate, though, is that it's that much more unlikely we'll see Siege Bluestreak or Smokescreen, at least not in this first part of the trilogy.


It is possible that Barricade is a massive 'reshell' rather than a retool with a new head and color scheme, much like how some CW cars or some TR figures used the same overall body shape but looked different. It is possible that Barricade is even a completely new car mold intended to be used for someone else and they just added some roof lights and a new head.


It's also possible Barricade is just a redeco of the Red Alert tooling of Sideswipe :SG-CONS:


I'm aware, but my point was exploring the less obvious ideas. Given Barricade could end up as a G1-ified Movie Barricade it is very likely he'd at least get a head based on Evergreen Barricade.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:56 pm

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This leans a little more toward the obvious, but Deluxe Barricade could also be a redeco & cotool of Mirage. G1 Barricade and G1 Mirage turn into F1 racecars (Semi-related, even - Mirage is a Ligier JS11 and Barricade a JS31), they could easily share transformation engineering looking at G1 Barricade. And going the G1 Barricade route would be fitting given the presence of the Micromasters in the line. Movie Barricade's popularity could well result in some level of movie reference on him, but it might not be to a huge degree.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:19 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:This leans a little more toward the obvious, but Deluxe Barricade could also be a redeco & cotool of Mirage. G1 Barricade and G1 Mirage turn into F1 racecars (Semi-related, even - Mirage is a Ligier JS11 and Barricade a JS31), they could easily share transformation engineering looking at G1 Barricade. And going the G1 Barricade route would be fitting given the presence of the Micromasters in the line. Movie Barricade's popularity could well result in some level of movie reference on him, but it might not be to a huge degree.


That's what I was thinking might happen. I kinda hope he gets some compatibility with the rest of the Race Track Patrol not dissimilar to Mini-Con-esque compatibility. Not saying it'd be like Armada where they'd reveal a new weapon (though, I'd love that) but more like T30's Armada Starscream where the pegs are there, but it's mostly just for show. Oh well, I doubt it's gonna happen
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby mordhelm » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:36 pm

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So do we now know all of the non-exclusive deluxe class?

Sideswipe
Cog
Hound
Ironhide
Chromia
Sixgun
Red Alert
Prowl
Mirage
Impactor

Skytread
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Barricade

I wonder if we will get a full 16 mainline deluxes?
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Re: Possible New Barricade Listing for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege

Postby Decepticon Stryker » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:13 pm

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What is new, especially at the 19.99 USD price point, is a listing for a Barricade that we had yet to see talked about or mentioned in the line. Join the discussion and speculate away on what the character might be, given the original G1 character is part of the Race Car Patrol Micro Master team!

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Okay.... Sorry to point out the obvious... but aren't we getting a Studio Series Barricade....at $19.99? and keep in mind that just because it says Wfc doesn't mean it's true. It could always be a screwup.
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Re: Possible New Barricade Listing for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:15 pm

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Decepticon Stryker wrote:
Va'al wrote:
What is new, especially at the 19.99 USD price point, is a listing for a Barricade that we had yet to see talked about or mentioned in the line. Join the discussion and speculate away on what the character might be, given the original G1 character is part of the Race Car Patrol Micro Master team!

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Okay.... Sorry to point out the obvious... but aren't we getting a Studio Series Barricade....at $19.99?

We are, but the listing on Amazon specifically lists him as WFC Deluxe Barricade
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Re: Possible New Barricade Listing for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege

Postby Decepticon Stryker » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:16 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:
Va'al wrote:
What is new, especially at the 19.99 USD price point, is a listing for a Barricade that we had yet to see talked about or mentioned in the line. Join the discussion and speculate away on what the character might be, given the original G1 character is part of the Race Car Patrol Micro Master team!

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Okay.... Sorry to point out the obvious... but aren't we getting a Studio Series Barricade....at $19.99?

We are, but the listing on Amazon specifically lists him as WFC Deluxe Barricade

Just made a quick edit to my orginal post a few seconds after you posted.
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Re: Possible New Barricade Listing for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:18 pm

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Decepticon Stryker wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:
Va'al wrote:
What is new, especially at the 19.99 USD price point, is a listing for a Barricade that we had yet to see talked about or mentioned in the line. Join the discussion and speculate away on what the character might be, given the original G1 character is part of the Race Car Patrol Micro Master team!

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Okay.... Sorry to point out the obvious... but aren't we getting a Studio Series Barricade....at $19.99?

We are, but the listing on Amazon specifically lists him as WFC Deluxe Barricade

Just made a quick edit to my orginal post a few seconds after you posted.

Whoops! Sorry for the quick trigger finger, my bad :lol:
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Re: Possible New Barricade Listing for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:31 pm

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Decepticon Stryker wrote:
Va'al wrote:
What is new, especially at the 19.99 USD price point, is a listing for a Barricade that we had yet to see talked about or mentioned in the line. Join the discussion and speculate away on what the character might be, given the original G1 character is part of the Race Car Patrol Micro Master team!

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Okay.... Sorry to point out the obvious... but aren't we getting a Studio Series Barricade....at $19.99? and keep in mind that just because it says Wfc doesn't mean it's true. It could always be a screwup.


I wouldn't think so: such code names come directly from Hasbro and are listed as is until further info is released. Shame the product code hasn't been revealed yet.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:40 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:This leans a little more toward the obvious, but Deluxe Barricade could also be a redeco & cotool of Mirage. G1 Barricade and G1 Mirage turn into F1 racecars (Semi-related, even - Mirage is a Ligier JS11 and Barricade a JS31), they could easily share transformation engineering looking at G1 Barricade. And going the G1 Barricade route would be fitting given the presence of the Micromasters in the line. Movie Barricade's popularity could well result in some level of movie reference on him, but it might not be to a huge degree.


It would be a little weird if Barricade ended up being an F1 racer like his G1 self in a line where they're reintroducing Micromasters. He should just BE a Micromaster, then. If he's going to be a Deluxe sized figure, he should be something different, e.g., his police car motif from the live action movies.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:17 am

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Some of us store our figures in the packaging. Also I'd hate to see how online retailers will pack these for shipping.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:26 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:And they're back to using packaging that will make it impossible to store the boxes.


A cure for the common hoarder


Some of us store our figures in the packaging. Also I'd hate to see how online retailers will pack these for shipping.


No worse than any other box I'd imagine.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:17 am

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Barricade will be a cybertronian space log, why is any one thinking any differently? :P



Buy ten of them and he can be used to build a barricade XD
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:10 am

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blackeyedprime wrote:Barricade will be a cybertronian space log, why is any one thinking any differently? :P



Buy ten of them and he can be used to build a barricade XD

Just like how you can buy a bunch of MP Cordons and make... a cordon. 8-)

But yes, I agree, it would be stupid for Barricade to be a Deluxe class Micromaster character in a line where both Micromasters are back and "size matters".

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:42 am

Tommy T. wrote:I'm with ya, I prefer all the datsun boys being the same mold also. Love the fact they bringing barricade in. I'll definitely grab him. But I also don't see them using the same mold 4 times. Even though I would love it if they did the original seekers then did the rainmakers!!!


Titans Return Blurr would like a word.

Personally, I'm hoping his base is a different mold. Where's the fun in redecoing a police car as another police car?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:53 am

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Some of us store our figures in the packaging. Also I'd hate to see how online retailers will pack these for shipping.

I honestly don't think it will be a problem. The overall shape of the boxes is, as I said in an earlier post, just a rectangular solid with a triangular wedge cut out on one side. They'll stack just the same as purely rectangular boxes of the same width, depth, and height. As Seibertron pointed out, the wedge corner means that you can actually save a bit of horizontal space when putting the boxes side-by-side - just turn one of them 180 degrees and overlap the wedge areas. Boom. It's not going to be like, say, the boxes from Cybertron or the 2007 movie, or worse still the box for Urban Camo Ruination with its CURVED FRONT.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:33 am

AcademyofDrX wrote:
Tommy T. wrote:I'm with ya, I prefer all the datsun boys being the same mold also. Love the fact they bringing barricade in. I'll definitely grab him. But I also don't see them using the same mold 4 times. Even though I would love it if they did the original seekers then did the rainmakers!!!


Titans Return Blurr would like a word.


UM, ACKSHUALLY! *Mouth breathe* :lol:

Blurr's retool were NOT mass retail figures, as Brainstorm was a Walgreen exclusive, Nautica was a boxset exclusive and Arcee was a stand-alone online and TRU exclusive. Meaning the Blurr mold only showed up once at mass retail during Titans Return.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:12 am

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Tommy T. wrote:I'm with ya, I prefer all the datsun boys being the same mold also. Love the fact they bringing barricade in. I'll definitely grab him. But I also don't see them using the same mold 4 times. Even though I would love it if they did the original seekers then did the rainmakers!!!


Titans Return Blurr would like a word.


UM, ACKSHUALLY! *Mouth breathe* :lol:

Blurr's retool were NOT mass retail figures, as Brainstorm was a Walgreen exclusive, Nautica was a boxset exclusive and Arcee was a stand-alone online and TRU exclusive. Meaning the Blurr mold only showed up once at mass retail during Titans Return.


However, Combiner Wars Deadend would like a word with you :SG-CONS:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:24 am

Wireless_Phantom wrote:
Skritz wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Tommy T. wrote:I'm with ya, I prefer all the datsun boys being the same mold also. Love the fact they bringing barricade in. I'll definitely grab him. But I also don't see them using the same mold 4 times. Even though I would love it if they did the original seekers then did the rainmakers!!!


Titans Return Blurr would like a word.


UM, ACKSHUALLY! *Mouth breathe* :lol:

Blurr's retool were NOT mass retail figures, as Brainstorm was a Walgreen exclusive, Nautica was a boxset exclusive and Arcee was a stand-alone online and TRU exclusive. Meaning the Blurr mold only showed up once at mass retail during Titans Return.


However, Combiner Wars Deadend would like a word with you :SG-CONS:


Yeah, now THAT was mold overkill.
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