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[william-james88]

We posted several in hand images yesterday along with a video review and have been getting several requests for more comparison images. It's understandable because since this is a new line, people are very curious about assessing scale, and thus need more comparisons to existing figures to know what scale the figures in this line will fit to. Also since most characters in this line are being done for a second (or third or fourth) time, comparisons may be needed to know if these toys can replace previous releases of these characters.

Below you will find images of Optimus Prime and Megatron compared to their toys in the Combiner Wars, Generation One, Titans Return (that's the big one), Masterpiece and Classics/United/Henkei toylines.

Let us know what you think and if you like the scale Hasbro chose for these two toys. And most of all, for those who only want one voyager Optimus or Megatron in their collection, is this worth replacing the one you have right now?

[ScottyP]

Why didn't he do the Bot size comparison's of the Classics and Sieges the way he did the OP's in truck mode? I still can't tell which are taller. It feels like these reviewers are hiding it with these crouched down poses.

You've got the brain, find a gentler tone and we can be pals

Anyways

[ScottyP]

Wow I could not have timed that worse if I tried!

[william-james88]

I'm just worried about how Omega's going to see release and how well the QC will be

Regarding how he will see release, why would it be any different from Predaking's release?

[Sentinel_Primal]

I'm just worried about how Omega's going to see release and how well the QC will be

Regarding how he will see release, why would it be any different from Predaking's release?

I was just meaning will he be present in Brick and Mortar or will he be an "online exclusive" cause stores wouldn't pick up a figure of that size and waste shelf space on him

[william-james88]

I'm just worried about how Omega's going to see release and how well the QC will be

Regarding how he will see release, why would it be any different from Predaking's release?

I was just meaning will he be present in Brick and Mortar or will he be an "online exclusive" cause stores wouldn't pick up a figure of that size and waste shelf space on him

well did Predaking get a brick and mortar release?

[Wolfman Jake]

Interesting. Siege Optimus seems to be about the same height as his Classics self, maybe a millimeter or two taller at most. That's a little bit disappointing, as Classics Optimus Prime was an undersized Voyager back in its day. I'm glad Hasbro wised up on using better gray plastics for Megatron this time. That comparison with the Titans Return Megatron just shows how sickly pale it was. Siege gets it right on the nose, despite it not having a shiny top coat of silver paint.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I'm just worried about how Omega's going to see release and how well the QC will be

Regarding how he will see release, why would it be any different from Predaking's release?

I was just meaning will he be present in Brick and Mortar or will he be an "online exclusive" cause stores wouldn't pick up a figure of that size and waste shelf space on him

well did Predaking get a brick and mortar release?

Toys 'R Us was the only chain to actually carry Titan Class in its physical stores. With that having gone belly up, there are no real alternatives outside of online. That may change in the following year, depending on how the successor will do, and how the reissues sell at Walmart I'm guessing

[Shredd the Dinobot]

I wasn't sure how to ask or if you get notified by who quotes you or what, I'm completely brand new to the forum but I was curious if the new Prime could store the POTP Matrix in his chest, or atleast the matrix block minus the handles?

According to this Tweet, the Matrix core by itself can fit inside the space where the robot head goes, most likely by coincidence rather than intent.

Thank you ^w^.

The fact that you can still stick that in there is a nice little extra, it adds to the playability. I understand where a lot of you guys are coming from when you complain about these figures, I don't share the same sentiment but I understand. I still think there great though.

I can't wait to start my G1, well G1 inspired collection. ^w^

[Flashwave]

Hmm. So Seige Prime is almost exactly the same size as TR Prime, minus the shoulder pylons. That’s kinda cool, given most of the time my villain du jour is RID Scourge

Those comparisons of Megs with TR Megs though are not making my choices any easier. One the Ione hand, I really like the weapons n Megs, and the bot mode looks great; cleaner than the TR version. On the other though, the tank mode still looks like a robot folded into a tank to me and the TR Megs has more play value as a Triple Changer.

[Albatross250]

Actually, i do like the Siege Optimus....

Only if its repainted to Shattered Glass

[Sentinel_Primal]

So, if these guys are showing up around the same time that the Power of the Primes figures started shoing up, when can we expect the leader class Shockwave and Magnus? I'm so excited for the white Prime gimmick's return and Shockwave's new gimmick makes me want him so much more

[Jelze Bunnycat]

So, if these guys are showing up around the same time that the Power of the Primes figures started shoing up, when can we expect the leader class Shockwave and Magnus? I'm so excited for the white Prime gimmick's return and Shockwave's new gimmick makes me want him so much more

Around Black Friday, within a month. That is, if Walmart reconsiders carrying Leader Class again.

[Sentinel_Primal]

So, if these guys are showing up around the same time that the Power of the Primes figures started shoing up, when can we expect the leader class Shockwave and Magnus? I'm so excited for the white Prime gimmick's return and Shockwave's new gimmick makes me want him so much more

Around Black Friday, within a month. That is, if Walmart reconsiders carrying Leader Class again.

Wait, Wal-Mart stopped carrying Leader classes?? I thought that was just the Wal-Marts out here in the Midwest not getting supplies. Didn't know it was a general Wal-Mart thing

[Jelze Bunnycat]

So, if these guys are showing up around the same time that the Power of the Primes figures started shoing up, when can we expect the leader class Shockwave and Magnus? I'm so excited for the white Prime gimmick's return and Shockwave's new gimmick makes me want him so much more

Around Black Friday, within a month. That is, if Walmart reconsiders carrying Leader Class again.

Wait, Wal-Mart stopped carrying Leader classes?? I thought that was just the Wal-Marts out here in the Midwest not getting supplies. Didn't know it was a general Wal-Mart thing

I believe they only have Studio Series Leaders now, with unsold stock of Blackout and Grimlock. PotP, all gone.

[Seibertron]

So, if these guys are showing up around the same time that the Power of the Primes figures started shoing up, when can we expect the leader class Shockwave and Magnus? I'm so excited for the white Prime gimmick's return and Shockwave's new gimmick makes me want him so much more

Leader Class should be around December or January.

[Seibertron]

Toys 'R Us was the only chain to actually carry Titan Class in its physical stores. With that having gone belly up, there are no real alternatives outside of online. That may change in the following year, depending on how the successor will do, and how the reissues sell at Walmart I'm guessing

This is 100% incorrect. Titans Return was carried at Target and Walmart as well as other big box stores. Toys R Us didn't have anything unique about Titans Return or any other recent mainline Transformers series.

I misread "Titan Class" as "Titans Return". I should've known better than to tango with JelZe GoldRabbit

[Seibertron]

So, if these guys are showing up around the same time that the Power of the Primes figures started shoing up, when can we expect the leader class Shockwave and Magnus? I'm so excited for the white Prime gimmick's return and Shockwave's new gimmick makes me want him so much more

Around Black Friday, within a month. That is, if Walmart reconsiders carrying Leader Class again.

Wait, Wal-Mart stopped carrying Leader classes?? I thought that was just the Wal-Marts out here in the Midwest not getting supplies. Didn't know it was a general Wal-Mart thing

I believe they only have Studio Series Leaders now, with unsold stock of Blackout and Grimlock. PotP, all gone.

This is incorrect as well, if I'm reading these messages correctly. I bought a 2nd Leader Class Rodimus Prime at Walmart not too long ago so that I could have Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime. Hoping to do the same with a discounted Optimus Prime here in the near future.

[Nemesis Primal]

Oh BOY, Siege figures are showing up, YAY.

You know what else would be nice to see show up at retail? Optimal Optimus.

...In reality, I am absolutely excited for Siege, and it is very cool that it's showing up earlier than anticipated, but I don't have any interest in any Masters of any kind except Pteraxadon so far, and the figure I was MOST anticipating from PotP, the fan vote character even, still has yet to appear at US retail, so this really just stings.

Also I have no interest in those Voyager molds whatsoever unless/until they're retooled/repainted into different characters.

[1984forever]

It would be nice if we could get that same Prime in the 2nd part of the trilogy sans battle damage with an Earth truck mode so I can replace my Classics (2014 release) Optimus. I’m really tempted to get that Megatron to replace my TR Megatron.

[trence5]

Interesting. Siege Optimus seems to be about the same height as his Classics self, maybe a millimeter or two taller at most. That's a little bit disappointing, as Classics Optimus Prime was an undersized Voyager back in its day. I'm glad Hasbro wised up on using better gray plastics for Megatron this time. That comparison with the Titans Return Megatron just shows how sickly pale it was. Siege gets it right on the nose, despite it not having a shiny top coat of silver paint.

I am a bit disappointed that the Siege Megatron doesn't look to be the same size as Classics Megatron mold in the pics.

[leokearon]

Still happy with my TR Megatron, and the size pics confirm it.

[SpikeyTigertron]

So it just occurred to me... Target doesn't usually do DCPI's *per* character is that something new for Siege? It's usually a generic DCPI per size class (if you're lucky).

[Emerje]

Toys 'R Us was the only chain to actually carry Titan Class in its physical stores. With that having gone belly up, there are no real alternatives outside of online. That may change in the following year, depending on how the successor will do, and how the reissues sell at Walmart I'm guessing

This is 100% incorrect. Titans Return was carried at Target and Walmart as well as other big box stores. Toys R Us didn't have anything unique about Titans Return or any other recent mainline Transformers series.

Titan Class, not Titans return.

This is incorrect as well, if I'm reading these messages correctly. I bought a 2nd Leader Class Rodimus Prime at Walmart not too long ago so that I could have Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime. Hoping to do the same with a discounted Optimus Prime here in the near future.

Consider yourself very lucky to have one of the very few Walmarts that are still carrying Leader Class. Based on complaints from all around the country the vast majority have dropped Leader Class for both PotP and SS. However, some have started carrying SS Leaders again in the most recent fall reset, but one of my two stores (Augusta, right in the state capital and newly renovated) did not. Here's a (blurry) shot of said shelves with no Leaders (this store also dropped SS Voyagers, that lone SS Deluxe is in it's correct spot on the bottom of the shelf), the big empty space is for Devastator.

Emerje

[william-james88]

Interesting. Siege Optimus seems to be about the same height as his Classics self, maybe a millimeter or two taller at most. That's a little bit disappointing, as Classics Optimus Prime was an undersized Voyager back in its day. I'm glad Hasbro wised up on using better gray plastics for Megatron this time. That comparison with the Titans Return Megatron just shows how sickly pale it was. Siege gets it right on the nose, despite it not having a shiny top coat of silver paint.

But Classics Optimus was the first ever voyager class toy. So how could it be an undersized voyager back in its day?