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[william-james88]

The only thing that gives me some pause on this theory is that Ratchet is a pretty late release, almost makes sense for him to be in the 40s.

Anyone else wanna share thoughts?

I can share thoughts about Ratchet. he will 100% not fit with logical release schedules because as we saw each year now (this will be the 3th year I think) the toy itself may be scheduled for a mid year release, and be available in international markets at around that time, but Walgreens will only stock him during their holiday season.

[mordhelm]

Good point. Then the numbers make sense for him to be a 20s or 30s designation. Curse you Walgreens!

[william-james88]

We have now updated our site with a section filled with all official images given to us from Hasbro regarding the products revealed at Toy Fair 2019. That includes official images for Siege, Studio Series, Cyberverse, Botbots and exclusives like Ecto-1 Transformer and Combat Hero Megatron.

The Siege gallery contains official images of Transformers War for Cybertron SIEGE Voyager Class Springer, Thundercracker, Commander Class Jetfire, Titan Class Omega Supreme, new Battle Masters, Deluxe Class Impactor, Red Alert, Mirage, and Leader Class Optimus Prime. Clicking any image below will bring you to the official image gallery for the Siege reveals. We also included the official product descriptions which includes Barricade's, a wave 4 deluxe figure who's listing we also found earlier today.












Generations WFC Siege Line:

Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Leader WFC-S40 Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $49.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S40 Galaxy Upgrade OPTIMUS PRIME figure stands at 7 inches in robot mode and converts into CYBERTRONIAN truck mode and comes with JF-50 Twinblast Galaxy Pack armor, 2 W-30 Magnetic Inducer Launchers, and JF-15 Gravity Force Laser accessories. Use weapon and armor accessories from the truck trailer to gear up OPTIMUS PRIME figure in his Galaxy Armor, converting to C.O.M.B.A.T. READY mode. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.

Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Titan WFC-S29 Omega Supreme
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $159.99/ Available: Aug 1, 2019)
This colossal 2-foot scale Titan Class WFC-S29 OMEGA SUPREME figure features a G1-inspired design and converts to AUTOBOT Command Center mode, made up of a tank, rocket, control tower, and defense perimeter. The included MICROMASTER, AUTOBOT COUNTDOWN, fits inside rocket, tank, and control tower, and can ride along the defense perimeter. Includes 6 Fire Blasts accessories to simulate battle effects on figure and Command Center mode. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. As the AUTOBOT counter-resistance takes on the DECEPTICON resistance army, the unyielding AUTOBOT army captain and city defender, OMEGA SUPREME, lies in wait -- the AUTOBOTS last line of defense. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.

Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Commander WFC-S28 Jetfire
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $79.99/ Available: Aug 1, 2019)
The WFC-S28 JETFIRE figure stands at 11 inches in robot mode and converts into a Cybertronian aircraft. JETFIRE figure comes with 2 JF-25 HS Photon Missile Sky Launchers, 2 HS Photon Missiles, 2 JF-15 HP Jetboost Particle Beam Cannon, 2 SF-M2 Radiograph Boosters, Skyshield Aerial Armor, and Skyshield Battle Mask accessories. Use weapon and armor accessories to convert figure to C.O.M.B.A.T. READY mode. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. JETFIRE has a special feature where Deluxe figures’ (each sold separately, subject to availability) attach to jet mode so fans can imagine them being deployed into battle from above. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.

Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Voyager WFC-S39 Thundercracker
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $29.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
The Voyager Class WFC-S39 THUNDERCRACKER figure stands at 7 inches in robot mode and converts into jet mode and comes with 2 HPI Null-Ray Laser Launcher accessories. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures (each sold separately). Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.

Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Voyager WFC-S38 Autobot Springer
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $29.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S38 AUTOBOT SPRINGER figure stands at 7 inches in robot mode and converts into CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and helicopter modes and comes with 2 W-10 Airslice Chopper Blades, JF-10 Warp Blaster, and C-10 EM Void Blast Capacitor accessories. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures (each sold separately). Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.

Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S30 Caliburst
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $5.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S30 CALIBURST figure stands at 1.5 inches toy and converts from beast mode to Oxidation Cannon weapon mode in 5 easy steps. Use the weapon mode to equip other Siege figures (sold separately) with larger mission loadouts and use the included Fire Blasts to simulate blasterfire coming from the weapon mode of Battle Masters or other Siege weapon accessories (not included). Build the ultimate battlefield with TRANSFORMERS War for Cybertron: Siege collectible figures, featuring classic G1 characters. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. The DECEPTICON resistance army and the AUTOBOT counter-resistance fighters gear up with the universe's most advanced modular weaponry, including weapon mode Battle Masters -- sentient bots that convert into weapons. Available at most major toy retailers nationwide.

Transformers Toy Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S31 Smashdown
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $5.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S31 SMASHDOWN action figure stands at 1.5 inches in beast mode and converts into an Airquake Hammerclaw in 6 easy steps. Use the weapon mode to equip other Siege figures (sold separately) with larger mission loadouts and use the included Fire Blasts accessory to simulate the impact of a hammer hitting its target. Build the ultimate battlefield with TRANSFORMERS War for Cybertron: Siege collectible figures, featuring classic G1 characters. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. The DECEPTICON resistance army and the AUTOBOT counter-resistance fighters gear up with the universe's most advanced modular weaponry, including weapon mode Battle Masters -- sentient bots that convert into weapons. Available at most major toy retailers nationwide.

Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S35 Red Alert
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S35 RED ALERT figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with a converting RT-15 Particle Beam Circuit Welder weapon accessory with axe and blaster modes. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.

Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S41 Barricade
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
The WFC-S41 BARRICADE figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with 2 weapon accessories, 2 HF Siren-Blast Punisher Cannons, that combine to form a larger cannon. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers nationwide.

Transformers: Toys Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S43 Autobot Mirage
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
Winner of 2018 Fan Vote, the WFC-S43 AUTOBOT MIRAGE figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with 3 weapon accessories: the C-20 Electro-Disruptor Cannon, Distortion Missile, and the W-15 Armor-Piercing Rocket-Dart Launcher. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.

Transformers: Toys Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S42 Autobot Impactor
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
Winner of 2018 Fan Vote, the WFC-S42 AUTOBOT IMPACTOR figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with 2 weapon accessories: the HP Energon Mineblaster and Trilithium Drill. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Either they got Springer's release date wrong, or he and Thundercracker are in different waves

[Nemesis Primal]

So we have at least 2 figures totally unaccounted for. Based on this being a 1yr line and the astrotrain rumor being december I am going to say that Astrotrain and Apeface are WFC Pt2 not Siege.

I am going to throw a guess out there that following are going to happen:
Rumble and Frenzy (S32 or 33)
Exclusive Lancer
Exclusive Ratchet

So S32 is Rumble and Frenzy
S34 S36 are Brunt and Refracktor

S26 S27 and S37 are Skywarp, Firestormer, Lancer, and Ratchet.

The only thing that gives me some pause on this theory is that Ratchet is a pretty late release, almost makes sense for him to be in the 40s.

Anyone else wanna share thoughts?

Welcome to the ranks of the numbers obsessed, my friend, I've done a few posts like this since the code website went up. Here's what I've got to add to your basework:
-The numbering for Siege extends to S51, according to the code site
-Since the code site doesn't have entries for any figures from the Master pricepoints, we know that S44-47 should be more Masters, unless the 35th anniversary Siege figures have standard numbers and no lore, in which case this is them (I think they'll have a separate numbering system though, like how Selects Camo Megs is separate).

In addition, as I was writing this, I pulled up said site to double-check stuff and I realized that if you click on the files for unreleased figures, it tells you what month they come out, and from whether the background shows either Prime or Megs, what faction the figure is. That second part isn't just guesswork, I checked the file backgrounds for figures who's numbers we know and the factions match every time (for example, Soundwave and Screamer's numbers show Megs, Jetfire and Omega's show Prime). With that in mind, we can determine the following:
S26: Autobot, July release
S27: Decepticon, July release
S34: Autobot, July release (which also means that Brunt and Refraktor have to be S36 and S37)
S48: Decepticon, December release
S49: Autobot, December release
S50: Decepticon, December release
S51: Decepticon, December release

Granted, those release dates may not exact, as the file for Omega claims he'll be out in July, not August, but I think this means it's safe to say that either Hasbro is putting out 4 exclusives in December, or there's more retail content after Impactor. Either way, there's definite room for Apeface and Astrotrain in here.

My predictions? S34 is Ratchet, and comes out more around August/September, S26 and S27 are the Firestormer Pack and Skywarp, respectively, with the correct date as that would line up with last year's Prime Wars exclusives, some combination of S48, S50, and S52 are Apeface and Astrotrain with a mystery friend (Snapdragon?), and S49 is possibly Lancer, and their dates are all correct (the site correctly says October for Wave 4, so the December date should be deliberate).

[Emerje]

My guess is maybe the beast modes heads would have a helmet type gimmick like the TR leaders did. So the new head/titan masters would form the robot head and plug into a beast helmet or mask type scenario.

I tried so hard to push this idea of beast helmets/masks/whatever for the Horrorcons and couldn't get anyone convinced it was a good idea. I even used Sixshot as an example of it being done right just smaller.

Astrotrain being Leader Class instead of Commander class feels like a missed opportunity. Will be interesting to see how they work in the armor gimmick if at all.

I really don't understand why people would want a giant Astrotrain. It's not like they could ever make him big enough to to fit more than a couple 'Masters inside him. I'd rather have a Leader figure that's got big, complex transformations, but the bot is only about Voyager size.

Not just more Decepticons, but Decepticons which are from the era of The Rebirth. In a line where most stuff is '84+The Movie.

Most? At this point don't we have a lot more post movie characters than not?

Emerje

[Wireless_Phantom]

It's kind of interesting that Barricade isn't labeled as Decepticon Barricade like you usually get with figures who's names are just regular words.

[Wireless_Phantom]

My guess is maybe the beast modes heads would have a helmet type gimmick like the TR leaders did. So the new head/titan masters would form the robot head and plug into a beast helmet or mask type scenario.

I tried so hard to push this idea of beast helmets/masks/whatever for the Horrorcons and couldn't get anyone convinced it was a good idea. I even used Sixshot as an example of it being done right just smaller.

Astrotrain being Leader Class instead of Commander class feels like a missed opportunity. Will be interesting to see how they work in the armor gimmick if at all.

I really don't understand why people would want a giant Astrotrain. It's not like they could ever make him big enough to to fit more than a couple 'Masters inside him. I'd rather have a Leader figure that's got big, complex transformations, but the bot is only about Voyager size.

Not just more Decepticons, but Decepticons which are from the era of The Rebirth. In a line where most stuff is '84+The Movie.

Most? At this point don't we have a lot more post movie characters than not?

Emerje

Now, I'm not really sure what they are doing with Astrotrain in regards to what they are doing with the armor of course, but I think it makes sense for him to be a leader in this line, since he'll be a little bit bigger than a voyager like say Starscream as he should be, at least based on the cartoon model.

[Black Bumblebee]

I would love for Hasbro to troll us and the Barricade that they are releasing... is actually Generation 1 Barricade: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Barricade_(G1)

Could end up being a repaint of Mirage

[Emerje]

Now, I'm not really sure what they are doing with Astrotrain in regards to what they are doing with the armor of course, but I think it makes sense for him to be a leader in this line, since he'll be a little bit bigger than a voyager like say Starscream as he should be, at least based on the cartoon model.

Who said he'd have armor? I realize the first 3 Leaders have armor, but only because it fits their character, not because there's some sort of mandate for all Leaders to have armor like in PotP. There are no class gimmicks in this line which is why we can have regular Deluxe figures along side Weaponizers and a Duocon or a Triplechanger (and "quadruplechanger" in Soundwave) mixed with some regular Voyagers. There's no reason to assume Astrotrain will have armor, he'll just be a big figure. Thought I doubt he'll be much bigger than the already large TR Voyager Astrotrain.

Emerje

[Carnivius_Prime]

i dunno. kinda weird to me to have Astrotrain way bigger than Blitzwing and Octane. That whole Astrotrain as Decepticon shuttle thing just seemed really silly (though the whole thing with triple changers with realistic alt-modes raises too many scale issues anyways). Particularly the infamous scene in the 86 movie where frickin' Devastator combines while inside. How big would Astrotrain's shuttle need to be in toy form to have his CW toy fit inside?

Springer here looks like he's wearing a bad christmas decoration on his left side for some reason.

[angtre]

I would love for Hasbro to troll us and the Barricade that they are releasing... is actually Generation 1 Barricade: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Barricade_(G1)

Could end up being a repaint of Mirage

It may be a straight Prowl repaint, like its "Aligned" version from the "Timelines" line. Still I hope they'll go for something more akin to its movie counterpart.

[-Kanrabat-]

Gotta admit, that Omega Supreme is VERY impressive. But I'm not sure if I'll ever buy it.

My must will be Jetfire, Starscream, and Thundercracker. Also, Reflector. That's the only ones so far as official pictures have been shown.

I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Carnivius_Prime]

I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Do you have any of those Micromasters/Targetmasters? That size is kinda big to be turning into heads, the bodies would have to be leader sized at least I think.

[-Kanrabat-]

I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Do you have any of those Micromasters/Targetmasters? That size is kinda big to be turning into heads, the bodies would have to be leader sized at least I think.

I have just a set and for a voyager, those head would be perfect. Sure, the bot will have a slightly bigger head, but it will be closer to the originals. Furthermore, the TR voyagers have the poles gimmick to make the head "bigger". And finally, the Horrorcons heads MUST be triple-changing and become monster heads too. Thus the size increase.

[Carnivius_Prime]

I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Do you have any of those Micromasters/Targetmasters? That size is kinda big to be turning into heads, the bodies would have to be leader sized at least I think.

I have just a set and for a voyager, those head would be perfect. Sure, the bot will have a slightly bigger head, but it will be closer to the originals. Furthermore, the TR voyagers have the poles gimmick to make the head "bigger". And finally, the Horrorcons heads MUST be triple-changing and become monster heads too. Thus the size increase.

If you say so. They look way too big to sit on a Voyager to me. And I forgot those 'poles' even existed cos on the figures I had/have like TR Megatron they looked silly so I never use them, and not like a larger head at all. Not sure what fiction reasons would have to be for those guys to have larger little people turn into their heads. I would think if they keep the size they could increase it by using a part on the body similar in idea to those 'poles' maybe but different like on some of the smaller figures. So maybe Snapdragons buddy only firms the top half of the dragon head while the lower jaw is folded out from with the dragons neck. Maybe. I dunno. Wait and see what hasbro does I guess.

[ZeroWolf]

I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Do you have any of those Micromasters/Targetmasters? That size is kinda big to be turning into heads, the bodies would have to be leader sized at least I think.

I have just a set and for a voyager, those head would be perfect. Sure, the bot will have a slightly bigger head, but it will be closer to the originals. Furthermore, the TR voyagers have the poles gimmick to make the head "bigger". And finally, the Horrorcons heads MUST be triple-changing and become monster heads too. Thus the size increase.

I hope you're prepared for disappointment To be fair all they have to be is triple changers, everything else is negotiable.

As for Astrotrain, I'm expecting the leader Class price point to justify the parts count to make splendid looking alt modes and a slightly larger voyager bot mode as others have said

[-Kanrabat-]

I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Do you have any of those Micromasters/Targetmasters? That size is kinda big to be turning into heads, the bodies would have to be leader sized at least I think.

I have just a set and for a voyager, those head would be perfect. Sure, the bot will have a slightly bigger head, but it will be closer to the originals. Furthermore, the TR voyagers have the poles gimmick to make the head "bigger". And finally, the Horrorcons heads MUST be triple-changing and become monster heads too. Thus the size increase.

If you say so. They look way too big to sit on a Voyager to me. And I forgot those 'poles' even existed cos on the figures I had/have like TR Megatron they looked silly so I never use them, and not like a larger head at all. Not sure what fiction reasons would have to be for those guys to have larger little people turn into their heads. I would think if they keep the size they could increase it by using a part on the body similar in idea to those 'poles' maybe but different like on some of the smaller figures. So maybe Snapdragons buddy only firms the top half of the dragon head while the lower jaw is folded out from with the dragons neck. Maybe. I dunno. Wait and see what hasbro does I guess.

Overquoting a bit just to say that most likely, the headmasters of the horrorcons will be normal Titan Masters. And for the beast heads, the Titan Master will just make "half" of the head, while the other half will be filled in by a "helmet" similar to what was done for Titan Return leaders.

[Carnivius_Prime]

Damn kremzeek 503ing the site and lost the reply I typed apologising for the quotes (I'm using phone today instead of usual PC and I'm finding it very awkward) and yeah what you said is what I meant. I shush now

[no-one]

Now, I'm not really sure what they are doing with Astrotrain in regards to what they are doing with the armor of course, but I think it makes sense for him to be a leader in this line, since he'll be a little bit bigger than a voyager like say Starscream as he should be, at least based on the cartoon model.

Who said he'd have armor? I realize the first 3 Leaders have armor, but only because it fits their character, not because there's some sort of mandate for all Leaders to have armor like in PotP. There are no class gimmicks in this line which is why we can have regular Deluxe figures along side Weaponizers and a Duocon or a Triplechanger (and "quadruplechanger" in Soundwave) mixed with some regular Voyagers. There's no reason to assume Astrotrain will have armor, he'll just be a big figure. Thought I doubt he'll be much bigger than the already large TR Voyager Astrotrain.

Emerje

Hasbro gets stuck in the size class gimmick rut, so I'm predicting armor for Astrotrain so they can fudge the mass shifting of his shuttle mode. If he's also a triple changer his base alt mold will be a choo choo, then a slight transformation and armor will make up a larger shuttle.

[Rodimus Knight]

I think you should be referring Soundwave's 3rd mode as a cassette player since boom boxes tend to be bigger then that.
My question is, was that an intended mode or a happy accident?

[no-one]

I think you should be referring Soundwave's 3rd mode as a cassette player since boom boxes tend to be bigger then that.
My question is, was that an intended mode or a happy accident?

I'm going with happy accident for both cassette player and lamp post. Lamp post may have been slightly less accidental though. Anyway, it's not much of a stretch to turn a blocky robot that turns into a blocky space ship into a block. If he didn't have so many G1 cassette player design queues it may not look so convincing.


Edit: after really studying the pics I agree with others, his arms were removed at the mushroom pegs.

[Cyberpath]

I wonder if SIEGE Laserbeak/Ravage are comparable with the G1/MP tapes.

Probably smaller?

[no-one]

I wonder if SIEGE Laserbeak/Ravage are comparable with the G1/MP tapes.

Probably smaller?

It's be cool if they were, but I'm also thinking smaller. They seem to have slightly different proportions as well.

[william-james88]

I think you should be referring Soundwave's 3rd mode as a cassette player since boom boxes tend to be bigger then that.
My question is, was that an intended mode or a happy accident?

its not a casette player either, since there are no speakers. it's a microcasette tape recording device. But I felt boombox was the shortest catch all term for people to get the idea in a headline.

And anyways, unlike every single 84 release, Soundwave is the only Takara toy who's not a copy of a real life object made to transform, and instead something made just for the toy. There is no real life counterpart to Soundwave's alt mode.