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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:27 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:A different face sculpt for Barricade would have been nice. Make him stand out a bit more than having a 'reverse-Prowl' colour palette.

He does have a different head from Prowl


Ah, but I didn't say he had Prowl's head. I said he had a 'reverse-Prowl' colour palette ;)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:29 pm

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So, wait a second, is Sixgun in wave 2 and wave 4? If so that should make getting two of him easier.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:29 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:My Walmart just stocked Starscream and Soundwave. In hand, they don't look that good, honestly. They both look dull and like the paint apps weren't finished. I know I'm going to pass on Soundwave (if anyone wants him let me know and I'll pick him up for you), and I'm split on Starscream. I collect voyager Screamers so I might get him for that shelf, but he's not that impressive.


Where is this Walmart located?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:32 pm

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Wireless_Phantom wrote:So, wait a second, is Sixgun in wave 2 and wave 4? If so that should make getting two of him easier.



Also, something that did occur to me recently, with the release of Cog, Brunt and Sixgun. Is Zarak going to be part of this line? Perhaps a new Fult Tilt and Cerebros too??
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:35 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:My Walmart just stocked Starscream and Soundwave. In hand, they don't look that good, honestly. They both look dull and like the paint apps weren't finished. I know I'm going to pass on Soundwave (if anyone wants him let me know and I'll pick him up for you), and I'm split on Starscream. I collect voyager Screamers so I might get him for that shelf, but he's not that impressive.


Where is this Walmart located?


This would be the first sighting of the Wave 2 SIEGE Voyagers in the U.S., if that is where you found them. We should news that, but we need to know the location of the store.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:02 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Image

I'm surprised no one else mentioned this yet, but the Cybertronian "Police" writing on Barricade's doors is done in the Autobot alphabet, not the Decepticon one. I'm assuming this is just an oversight in the CGI render. They probably just neglected to change that overlay from Prowls when they did the palette, head, and weapon swaps.


All of the script used, whether it be on the boxes or the figures, has always been Autobot. BotCon 2009 Banzai-Tron has his motto on the hull, in Autobot script:

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All to avoid confusion and to streamline things I guess. Pick one and stick with it :lol:


The 'Autobot' language is clearly a pre-existing Cybertronian language which goes before the Great War and the Decepticon language is a wartime 'conlang' used to speak in codes. /fanwank :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:03 pm

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Skritz wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Image

I'm surprised no one else mentioned this yet, but the Cybertronian "Police" writing on Barricade's doors is done in the Autobot alphabet, not the Decepticon one. I'm assuming this is just an oversight in the CGI render. They probably just neglected to change that overlay from Prowls when they did the palette, head, and weapon swaps.


All of the script used, whether it be on the boxes or the figures, has always been Autobot. BotCon 2009 Banzai-Tron has his motto on the hull, in Autobot script:

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All to avoid confusion and to streamline things I guess. Pick one and stick with it :lol:


The 'Autobot' language is clearly a pre-existing Cybertronian language which goes before the Great War and the Decepticon language is a wartime 'conlang' used to speak in codes. /fanwank :lol:


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:05 pm

Just came up on the spot to explain why both factions use the same languague but somehow the 'cons are sometimes depicted with their own. :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:11 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:My Walmart just stocked Starscream and Soundwave. In hand, they don't look that good, honestly. They both look dull and like the paint apps weren't finished. I know I'm going to pass on Soundwave (if anyone wants him let me know and I'll pick him up for you), and I'm split on Starscream. I collect voyager Screamers so I might get him for that shelf, but he's not that impressive.


Where is this Walmart located?


This would be the first sighting of the Wave 2 SIEGE Voyagers in the U.S., if that is where you found them. We should news that, but we need to know the location of the store.
I'm sorry I thought I typed it. Albany, Georgia.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:12 pm

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I'm gonna buy the hell out of that Barricade, to be sure. Mostly in the off chance that a 3rd party makes a new head/hands for him. Even if reprolables does something like a sticker to cover his face. Maybe if Hasbro even gave him a mouthplate instead of a mouth it wouldn't look as off as it does. Overall though, I'm satisfied with what I see!

However, this leads me to believe that they should do "test audiences" for prototype reveals like what they do for movies. That way they can take suggestions on how to alter some things before sending it out to mass market. It would cost more on their end, but it could also make them more in the end. I dunno, it's just the dumb thought that popped into my brain. Like I said, still gonna buy him!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:19 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I'm gonna buy the hell out of that Barricade, to be sure. Mostly in the off chance that a 3rd party makes a new head/hands for him. Even if reprolables does something like a sticker to cover his face. Maybe if Hasbro even gave him a mouthplate instead of a mouth it wouldn't look as off as it does. Overall though, I'm satisfied with what I see!

However, this leads me to believe that they should do "test audiences" for prototype reveals like what they do for movies. That way they can take suggestions on how to alter some things before sending it out to mass market. It would cost more on their end, but it could also make them more in the end. I dunno, it's just the dumb thought that popped into my brain. Like I said, still gonna buy him!

That would be interesting to see. Would certainly help with some of the homage figures. But there would also be an issue with people preferring different designs like with Impactor's Marvel G1 vs IDW appearance... :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:52 pm

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A great idea!

But... what if, these "test audiences" asked for them to do something other than G1?

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Transformers: SIEGE Wave 2 Voyager Class Starscream and Soundwave Found at U.S. Retail

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:05 pm

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Hot on the heals of the sighting in Australia, we now have photographic evidence that Transformers: War for Cybertron - SIEGE Wave 2 Voyager Class Starscream and Soundwave are in the wild at U.S. retail stores! Seibertron.com member and site moderator Rodimus Prime found the pair at his local Walmart in Albany, Georgia. He took a snap shot of the two new Voyager Class figures on the shelf. Take a look below!

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The hunt is on! Will you be adding SIEGE Starscream and Soundwave to your collections? Remember, Starscream will be followed up with a repaint into Thundercracker in SIEGE Voyager Wave 4, and previous leaks have indicated a special release of Skywarp to be determined. Soundwave may also be getting a black repaint as his reincarnated form of Soundblaster if the rumors surrounding a "35th Anniversay" edition of select figures is to be believed. We also previously reported on an English language review of SIEGE Voayger Class Soundwave HERE, along with the original Australian sighting of these figures. Tell us your plans for the hunt in the comments below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest news on all things Transformers!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:18 pm

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....aww, but he is rubbish though, dangit! I had such hopes for you, Barricade, why do you do this to me. :(

I'm gonna repeat a lot of what's already been said, because it's accurate: the color scheme is great (love the purple windows and tires), the mold looks somewhat better here with actual color than as boring white Prowl, but the head ruins it and I wish the guns were bigger. Barricade deserves more than a Smokescreen pretool. Maybe if it looks better in person I'll get it, but for right now I'm nothing but disappointed, and that's sadly what I expected. I don't even want Smokescreen either, he's even more of generic fodder than Bluestreak and this cartoon-accurate neckless head looks stupid.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SGMLordMirage » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:31 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:32 pm

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Barricade, alternate heads (as per the Wiki):

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"evergreen" with Visor and mouth plate

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OG Micromaster, with visor

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IDWverse. A composite of OG, WFC and Movie.

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Animated design, based on Movie.

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Animated design, as per The Complete AllSpark Almanac.

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Movie Barricade.

So HasTak had Plenty of options and chose none.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:34 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:....aww, but he is rubbish though, dangit! I had such hopes for you, Barricade, why do you do this to me. :(

I'm gonna repeat a lot of what's already been said, because it's accurate: the color scheme is great (love the purple windows and tires), the mold looks somewhat better here with actual color than as boring white Prowl, but the head ruins it and I wish the guns were bigger. Barricade deserves more than a Smokescreen pretool. Maybe if it looks better in person I'll get it, but for right now I'm nothing but disappointed, and that's sadly what I expected. I don't even want Smokescreen either, he's even more of generic fodder than Bluestreak and this cartoon-accurate neckless head looks stupid.


I don't see how Smokescreen is generic considering that 1:He has one of the most unique color schemes in the whole franchise and 2:At the time during the cartoon he was one of the few shady Autobots.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:34 pm

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Randomhero wrote:I love this for months people were wanting to see barricade waiting and expecting him to be a black prowl and there he is and people are complaiming that that’s exactly what he is and wanted.

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Ah, but the thing here is that people were expecting him to be a lazy Prowl repaint as a worst case scenario, not what they actually wanted. It's like the small group of people who were expecting Impactor to be an Ironhide repaint: no one really wanted that, but we sadly wouldn't put it past Hasbro to make it. I personally wanted a figure of Barricade's much more unique and distinct Evergreen design, and I know I'm not the only one, but that would have taken effort that Hasbro is apparently adverse to.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:50 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Barricade, alternate heads

Animated design, based on Movie.

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So HasTak had Plenty of options and chose none.


For sure, the Animated head would have never fit the Siege aesthetics. But with just a little tweak like taking the same concept but with a more square head and less chin. Then it would have been perfect.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:56 pm

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While I'm perfectly fine with this Siege Barricade, am I alone in thinking that TLK Deluxe Barricade made for a pretty serviceable CHUG crossover?
I mean that evergreen design looks heavily based on it. Despite the fuggly buggly movie head, I was happy slapping him on my Gen shelves.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:58 pm

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I'm gonna buy the hell out of that Barricade, to be sure. Mostly in the off chance that a 3rd party makes a new head/hands for him. Even if reprolables does something like a sticker to cover his face. Maybe if Hasbro even gave him a mouthplate instead of a mouth it wouldn't look as off as it does. Overall though, I'm satisfied with what I see!

However, this leads me to believe that they should do "test audiences" for prototype reveals like what they do for movies. That way they can take suggestions on how to alter some things before sending it out to mass market. It would cost more on their end, but it could also make them more in the end. I dunno, it's just the dumb thought that popped into my brain. Like I said, still gonna buy him!


Personally I'm hoping for a red visor and/or choice of 'evil facial hair'. Either a mall cop-esque moustache or some goatee or something.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:00 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:....aww, but he is rubbish though, dangit! I had such hopes for you, Barricade, why do you do this to me. :(

I'm gonna repeat a lot of what's already been said, because it's accurate: the color scheme is great (love the purple windows and tires), the mold looks somewhat better here with actual color than as boring white Prowl, but the head ruins it and I wish the guns were bigger. Barricade deserves more than a Smokescreen pretool. Maybe if it looks better in person I'll get it, but for right now I'm nothing but disappointed, and that's sadly what I expected. I don't even want Smokescreen either, he's even more of generic fodder than Bluestreak and this cartoon-accurate neckless head looks stupid.


I don't see how Smokescreen is generic considering that 1:He has one of the most unique color schemes in the whole franchise and 2:At the time during the cartoon he was one of the few shady Autobots.

1. He's red and blue, how is that unique? He's not even the first red-and-blue guy, he lost out to at least Optimus and Screamer, probably more than just them.
2. I grew up with the Unicron Trilogy, I haven't WATCHED the G1 cartoon in it's entirety because, unpopular opinion, what I have seen of it hasn't aged well. I've at least seen Bluestreak do stuff in the IDW comics/MTMTE, but G1 Smokescreen isn't IN anything (since Prime Smokescreen was basically just Hot Rod, and Armada Smokescreen was basically Trailbreaker and then changed into an edgy Hoist).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:10 pm

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Cobotron wrote:While I'm perfectly fine with this Siege Barricade, am I alone in thinking that TLK Deluxe Barricade made for a pretty serviceable CHUG crossover?
I mean that evergreen design looks heavily based on it. Despite the fuggly buggly movie head, I was happy slapping him on my Gen shelves.

I mean, I agree with you, my TLK Barricade can move up to the Generations shelf. He's pretty good for that aesthetic.

But I was still hoping for a cool more original head for a Siege Barricade
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:30 pm

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Deadput wrote::STARSEEKERS:
Nemesis Primal wrote:....aww, but he is rubbish though, dangit! I had such hopes for you, Barricade, why do you do this to me. :(

I'm gonna repeat a lot of what's already been said, because it's accurate: the color scheme is great (love the purple windows and tires), the mold looks somewhat better here with actual color than as boring white Prowl, but the head ruins it and I wish the guns were bigger. Barricade deserves more than a Smokescreen pretool. Maybe if it looks better in person I'll get it, but for right now I'm nothing but disappointed, and that's sadly what I expected. I don't even want Smokescreen either, he's even more of generic fodder than Bluestreak and this cartoon-accurate neckless head looks stupid.


I don't see how Smokescreen is generic considering that 1:He has one of the most unique color schemes in the whole franchise and 2:At the time during the cartoon he was one of the few shady Autobots.

1. He's red and blue, how is that unique? He's not even the first red-and-blue guy, he lost out to at least Optimus and Screamer, probably more than just them.
2. I grew up with the Unicron Trilogy, I haven't WATCHED the G1 cartoon in it's entirety because, unpopular opinion, what I have seen of it hasn't aged well. I've at least seen Bluestreak do stuff in the IDW comics/MTMTE, but G1 Smokescreen isn't IN anything (since Prime Smokescreen was basically just Hot Rod, and Armada Smokescreen was basically Trailbreaker and then changed into an edgy Hoist).



He isn't just red and blue he also has yellow and all of those unique paint loadouts.

He is less generic then both Prowl and Bluestreak.

He isn't generic.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Riley Hoffman » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:31 pm

Barricade looks great. Definitely a pickup. He will be one of the few I’ll pick up from Seige. Fun fact: my first transformer was a Barricade
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