Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:32 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
So HasTak had Plenty of options and chose none.

And they chose the most g1 one which fans had already expressed a need for to the point of even customizing MPs : https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-15478010

This isnt surprising.

Ironhidensh wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:A different face sculpt for Barricade would have been nice. Make him stand out a bit more than having a 'reverse-Prowl' colour palette.

He does have a different head from Prowl

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Randomhero wrote:I love this for months people were wanting to see barricade waiting and expecting him to be a black prowl and there he is and people are complaiming that that’s exactly what he is and wanted.

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Expected it maybe, but nobody wanted it. Try again.


Many wanted it, and a few years ago some people paid double-triple what this figure costs to get essentially the same thing from the club.



This is just one if those things I'll never understand, isn't it?


I am sure you could understand a fan's excitement over seeing something that homages both a design they thought they would never get and a very expensive toy they thought they could never get.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:35 pm

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Cobotron wrote:While I'm perfectly fine with this Siege Barricade, am I alone in thinking that TLK Deluxe Barricade made for a pretty serviceable CHUG crossover?
I mean that evergreen design looks heavily based on it. Despite the fuggly buggly movie head, I was happy slapping him on my Gen shelves.

I mean, I agree with you, my TLK Barricade can move up to the Generations shelf. He's pretty good for that aesthetic.

But I was still hoping for a cool more original head for a Siege Barricade


I use TLK Barricade for my generations collection and plan on also getting Siege Barricade. I haven't decided yet which one will remain Barricade and which one will be headcannoned into someone else.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:40 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
So HasTak had Plenty of options and chose none.

And they chose the most g1 one which fans had already expressed a need for to the point of even customizing MPs : https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-15478010

This isnt surprising.


What isn't surprising, the more I see it, is HasTak look for any way they can to get out of doing anything new or remotely creative to make their money. Meanwhile a certain section of the fanbase willingly seems to bend over backwards to encourage said laziness and lack of creativity. 8-}
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:47 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
So HasTak had Plenty of options and chose none.

And they chose the most g1 one which fans had already expressed a need for to the point of even customizing MPs : https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-15478010

This isnt surprising.


What isn't surprising, the more I see it, is HasTak look for any way they can to get out of doing anything new or remotely creative to make their money. Meanwhile a certain section of the fanbase willingly seems to bend over backwards to encourage said laziness and lack of creativity. 8-}


It's a bloody headsculpt dude, the intention was a Guidi inspired G1 Barricade based off the same cartoon vision as the whole line in general.

Same reason why Impactor is based off the Marvel comics version that fits the G1 cartoon aesthetic more.

It's not lazy or uncreative it's just not what you want.

(Barricade was always meant to be evil Prowl, it's why Prowl was removed from the Autobot line up in 2007, so really this toy homages that)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:47 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
So HasTak had Plenty of options and chose none.

And they chose the most g1 one which fans had already expressed a need for to the point of even customizing MPs : https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-15478010

This isnt surprising.


What isn't surprising, the more I see it, is HasTak look for any way they can to get out of doing anything new or remotely creative to make their money. Meanwhile a certain section of the fanbase willingly seems to bend over backwards to encourage said laziness and lack of creativity. 8-}


Or, y'know, steel molds are very expensive to make, and if they can make a character people want with tooling that they can also use for a separate character people also want, instead of a one-time use, then they can divert some of that mold-making money to other characters that might comparatively more require unique tooling.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:57 pm

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Deadput wrote:It's not lazy or uncreative it's just not what you want.


:roll:

This repaint, Overpriced Prime and MP Bumblebee 2.0. The overall decline in quality of the G1 MP line, the entire evergreen concept for the underlines. All point to the same conclusions. It's not about personal tastes or preferences, it's about the larger picture. Being able to see the wood from the trees, so to speak.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:08 pm

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Barricade looks almost exactly like the stylized poster art we saw with him a last year, shocking!

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The original Powertrain mold wasn't all that great, it's nice to see such a vastly improved new mold for him.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Manterax Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:23 pm

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Emerje wrote:Barricade looks almost exactly like the stylized poster art we saw with him a last year, shocking!

1540860190-siege-barricade-teaser.png


The original Powertrain mold wasn't all that great, it's nice to see such a vastly improved new mold for him.

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If we got a head more in line with that it would be better.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:26 pm

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Deadput wrote:He isn't just red and blue he also has yellow and all of those unique paint loadouts.

He is less generic then both Prowl and Bluestreak.

He isn't generic.

He does have the yellow and the tampos, yeah, they just don't really stick out that much to me. The yellow is really only on his head crest, like the red on Prowl. I dunno, maybe it's because I haven't been here since the early days of G1, but he just doesn't work for me I guess. That doesn't make either of us wrong, it's just personal opinion at this point, so agree to disagree?

I am excited for Bluestreak though either way.
Emerje wrote:Barricade looks almost exactly like the stylized poster art we saw with him a last year, shocking!

1540860190-siege-barricade-teaser.png


His head looks BETTER in the stylized art where it doesn't appear to be a stolen Smokescreen head, why couldn't we have gotten THAT?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:31 pm

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I must be one of the few that doesn't have a problem with Barricade's noggin... But will he be doomed to remain the evil Datsun brother?

With Bluestreak that is some effective part swapping tho:

Prowl: regular head, lightbar
Barricade: alternate head, lightbar
Smokescreen: alternate head, no lightbar
Bluestreak: regular head, no lightbar
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Editor » Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:45 pm

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As far as Seige has gone, I've only bothered with the micro and Target masters.

But hell yes I'll be getting that Barricade. I see and understand the complaints, but it's fine in my opinion.

Honestly I was hoping they would have made a reverse Defensor in the last few years, and Barricade then would have been a straight redeco of Prowl or Streetwise, so maybe I was just ready for it to be what it's been revealed to be.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:32 pm

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Deadput wrote:It's a bloody headsculpt dude, the intention was a Guidi inspired G1 Barricade based off the same cartoon vision as the whole line in general.


Where did that picture come from anyway?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:56 pm

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Deadput wrote:It's a bloody headsculpt dude, the intention was a Guidi inspired G1 Barricade based off the same cartoon vision as the whole line in general.


Next up: Deadlock/Drift as a Springer retool :lol:

Retro G1 Deadlock model by Guidi on DeviantArt

Yup, same site as this:

80's retro style G1 Barricade by Guidi
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:09 pm

I think Punch/Counterpunch from POTP would have made an excellent Drift/Deadlock double figure. >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:18 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Deadput wrote:It's a bloody headsculpt dude, the intention was a Guidi inspired G1 Barricade based off the same cartoon vision as the whole line in general.


Next up: Deadlock/Drift as a Springer retool :lol:

Retro G1 Deadlock model by Guidi on DeviantArt

Yup, same site as this:

80's retro style G1 Barricade by Guidi

Honestly, I'd much rather have that than springer >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ausbot » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:27 pm

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I cannot wait for that Barricade.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:09 pm

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Finally a g1 prowl inspired barricade
I hope eventually we see all micrometer teams complete
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:12 pm

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I find it ironic that originally barricade was a micrometer
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:22 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:I find it ironic that originally barricade was a micrometer


So much for that strictly G1 line, amirite? :lol:

Seriously, I don't understand the flak Barricade is getting about his noggin. That is a perfectly fine headsculpt, and perfectly suits the character in a G1 twist IMO. Like, this is how I imagine him when I read the Transformers Exodus book.

Paint scheme is awesome too. I much prefer this to Prowl, and the way his wheels look is really cool. That purple is exactly what they needed.

Btw, I have no idea if this is relevant to the topic, but would you guys like a Cybertronian Bumblebee movie Bumblebee that shares engineering with the Siege Prowl mold? I mean, looking at Barricade's vehicle mounted weapons, and the overall shape in general, I think this would make a good Cybertronian Bee. Sure, the chest should deform a little more, the wing doors should be folded elsewhere, and the legs probably done a little different, but I wouldn't be mad if this mold was the basis for one :D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:48 pm

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Btw, I have no idea if this is relevant to the topic, but would you guys like a Cybertronian Bumblebee movie Bumblebee that shares engineering with the Siege Prowl mold? I mean, looking at Barricade's vehicle mounted weapons, and the overall shape in general, I think this would make a good Cybertronian Bee. Sure, the chest should deform a little more, the wing doors should be folded elsewhere, and the legs probably done a little different, but I wouldn't be mad if this mold was the basis for one :D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:01 pm

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Editor wrote:As far as Seige has gone, I've only bothered with the micro and Target masters.

But hell yes I'll be getting that Barricade. I see and understand the complaints, but it's fine in my opinion.

Honestly I was hoping they would have made a reverse Defensor in the last few years, and Barricade then would have been a straight redeco of Prowl or Streetwise, so maybe I was just ready for it to be what it's been revealed to be.


Honestly that would have been awesome. Redeco Skylynx into Hatchet, make some dreads out of First Aid and Rook, and turn the Takara version of the helicopter mold into Blackout and boom.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rainmaker » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:58 pm

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I don't know why everyone's so disappointed over Barricade, we weren't expecting anything extraordinary

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:04 pm

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Rainmaker wrote:I don't know why everyone's so disappointed over Barricade, we weren't expecting anything extraordinary

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That may be, but I was still expecting a Barricade head. Not Smokescreen's
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:18 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Rainmaker wrote:I don't know why everyone's so disappointed over Barricade, we weren't expecting anything extraordinary

:MAXIMAL:

That may be, but I was still expecting a Barricade head. Not Smokescreen's

Well since this line is g1 heavy on inspiration this is exactly what I thought barracade was going to be like and it's pretty close
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:21 am

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Ultra Markus wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Rainmaker wrote:I don't know why everyone's so disappointed over Barricade, we weren't expecting anything extraordinary

:MAXIMAL:

That may be, but I was still expecting a Barricade head. Not Smokescreen's

Well since this line is g1 heavy on inspiration this is exactly what I thought barracade was going to be like and it's pretty close
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As shown above, they actually seem to be directly basing it on another color palette version of that Guido Guidi illustration:
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