Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:00 pm

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Had an extremely rare free day today (I'm off for my birthday, wife is at work, kids at school), so for old times sake, I did a total store hunt. I hit 3 targets, 8 walmarts, and 4 Meijers.



All I found was a single Siege Soundwave and Starscream at the last Walmart I hit. :HEADHURTS:


Anyway, I picked up soudwave, since Starscream's 'detachable body' has me less than thrilled.

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I have made no secret that I overwhelmingly detest the Siege line. Soundwave (much like Megatron) is a massive exception to that. This is just an all around amazing figure. The only complaint I have is the battle damage, which remains the worst idea Hasbro has ever had. :BANG_HEAD:


Seriously, if it wasn't for said deco, this would be an absolute perfect update to the original toy.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:12 pm

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I got a question for you Siege Soundwave owners. Is the tape deck door damage painted on or molded in? Also is it on the inside of the door?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:59 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:08 pm

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That "goblin glider" pic of SIEGE Starscream hits home how much people are over-reacting to his transformation scheme. Yes, that's recognizably still Starscream if you pull off his wings, but he's supposed to have those on his back, along with his shoulder pauldrons. (Where did those go in this picture anyway? If you were going to pull them off for a specific look for the "glider," why not try to put them back on the robot mode?)

Why is it so weird that the part of the alt mode that most looks like wings on an Earth-mode airplane is what ends up as the iconic wings on Starscream's back? Let me put it this way. Studio Series Starscream is an AMAZING figure, and no one can deny it's the best rendition of that character we've gotten from the movies in toy form. However, its arms, legs, and much of its torso don't really form any appreciable part of the jet mode either. They just hide a little better underneath, as is the case with the vast majority of air and jet craft Transformers, but somehow that's okay? Who cares if you can pull off the top of the tetra jet and still have a Starscream that's missing several pieces of his silhouette while still having a head, a torso, two arms, and two legs?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:11 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:That "goblin glider" pic of SIEGE Starscream hits home how much people are over-reacting to his transformation scheme. Yes, that's recognizably still Starscream if you pull off his wings, but he's supposed to have those on his back, along with his shoulder pauldrons. (Where did those go in this picture anyway? If you were going to pull them off for a specific look for the "glider," why not try to put them back on the robot mode?)

Why is it so weird that the part of the alt mode that most looks like wings on an Earth-mode airplane is what ends up as the iconic wings on Starscream's back? Let me put it this way. Studio Series Starscream is an AMAZING figure, and no one can deny it's the best rendition of that character we've gotten from the movies in toy form. However, its arms, legs, and much of its torso don't really form any appreciable part of the jet mode either. They just hide a little better underneath, as is the case with the vast majority of air and jet craft Transformers, but somehow that's okay? Who cares if you can pull off the top of the tetra jet and still have a Starscream that's missing several pieces of his silhouette while still having a head, a torso, two arms, and two legs?

Sounds like you're over-reacting; he's just trying to have some fun with his toy for kids; it's a humorous picture >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:14 pm

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Personally I don't mind Starscream's shell forming. I'd honestly much rather have it be one, big piece than a couple dozen tiny bits that are liable to be lost. That and how else were they going to make what is ostensibly a triangular pyramid into the classic G1 seeker design? Even back when Impossible Toys tried it (I think it was them) they were just panel heavy shell-formers. I know that I'll be glad to add these to my collection as my generations seekers.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:17 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:That "goblin glider" pic of SIEGE Starscream hits home how much people are over-reacting to his transformation scheme. Yes, that's recognizably still Starscream if you pull off his wings, but he's supposed to have those on his back, along with his shoulder pauldrons. (Where did those go in this picture anyway? If you were going to pull them off for a specific look for the "glider," why not try to put them back on the robot mode?)

Why is it so weird that the part of the alt mode that most looks like wings on an Earth-mode airplane is what ends up as the iconic wings on Starscream's back? Let me put it this way. Studio Series Starscream is an AMAZING figure, and no one can deny it's the best rendition of that character we've gotten from the movies in toy form. However, its arms, legs, and much of its torso don't really form any appreciable part of the jet mode either. They just hide a little better underneath, as is the case with the vast majority of air and jet craft Transformers, but somehow that's okay? Who cares if you can pull off the top of the tetra jet and still have a Starscream that's missing several pieces of his silhouette while still having a head, a torso, two arms, and two legs?

Sounds like you're over-reacting; he's just trying to have some fun with his toy for kids; it's a humorous picture >:oP


I don't think Jake was really responding directly to that picture/post, more using it as a springboard to respond to the wider complaints about Siege Starscream.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:29 pm

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Wow, until Peaugh made his review of Siege Soundwave, I never knew that if you flip open the bottom of his box, you can find an image of his lamppost mode underneath. It's a cool little thing and I love it. Link to Peaugh's video:

https://youtu.be/tEhKVrIWF48

Also there is a Siege Starscream review as well:

https://youtu.be/D2OtGHoqSNM
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SGMLordMirage » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:31 pm

See I need to be back home in Missouri. Wishful thinking, but I am keeping my eyes open here while I am in Virginia. Fingers crossed. My only current fortune, is finding SS #37 Rampage and Siege Starscream today.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:54 pm

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SGMLordMirage wrote:See I need to be back home in Missouri. Wishful thinking, but I am keeping my eyes open here while I am in Virginia. Fingers crossed. My only current fortune, is finding SS #37 Rampage and Siege Starscream today.


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Dude, you just found 2 brand new figures that have been hitting stores for less than a week. You’re acting like you haven’t found anything. >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SGMLordMirage » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:02 pm

Very true and probably misspoken or the choice of words. It’s hard to tell depending on how many people post pictures of what they find. Guess I took that one for granted. I will say I am very happy with what I found, though I will say I am anxious to see Soundwave in person and OP from the Bumblebee MOvie. Thanks you Rodimus Prime 13!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TulioDude » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:05 pm

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Wireless_Phantom wrote:Come on now give us Drift from Springer!


This is a great idea to bring more movie inspired parts to the toyline!

But in Drift's case, its bringing IDW verse to an old school G1 setting, not movie inspired. Eslecially since it reflects the decepticon aspect which is not a big part of the movie character.

But IDW Drift (Deadlock) was not a Triple Chsnger, so a Springer redeco would be more in line with Movie Drift, than IDW. Although their safest bet would probably be to do an amalgamation of them and give us the triple changer as IDW Drift.

Or Deadlock. I could use him as a seperate chsracter. Nice color scheme =P~
The point of making Drift out of Springer is because of Guidi having done another piece of fanart of G1 Drift (well, Deadlock) from Springer:

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I say if they going to bring Barricade and give the Cybertron series armor to Optimus,why not go all in?
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Siege Soundwave's official lamppost mode is hidden on the box, plus new codes

Postby Emerje » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:37 pm

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By now you're probably familiar with the hidden codes and images on the sides of of some War for Cybertron: Siege boxes that can be found through the use of UV lights. For the most part the light only reveals added details to the character art, faction symbols, and the character's name. But for the first time we're getting a true Easter egg hidden on the box.

Thanks to TFW2005 user Robots78 we're seeing official line art for Soundwave's lamppost mode behind the code "lamppost" in Cybertronian. This is the first time Hasbro has officially depicted the lamppost mode, though it was also hidden in the display diorama at New York Comic Con, but at the time it just seemed like John Warden was having a little fun with the figure. Incidentally, wave mate Starscream's code is "null-ray".

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But that wasn't the only place the image was hidden. If you don't have a UV light handy then simply undo the bottom of the package as Hasbro also hid the image on one of the side flaps under there. For now the cassette player mode remains unofficial.

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So what do you think of the updated lamppost mode? Vast improvement or not as good as the original? Sound off in the Energon Pub forums below!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:45 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:That "goblin glider" pic of SIEGE Starscream hits home how much people are over-reacting to his transformation scheme. Yes, that's recognizably still Starscream if you pull off his wings, but he's supposed to have those on his back, along with his shoulder pauldrons. (Where did those go in this picture anyway? If you were going to pull them off for a specific look for the "glider," why not try to put them back on the robot mode?)

Why is it so weird that the part of the alt mode that most looks like wings on an Earth-mode airplane is what ends up as the iconic wings on Starscream's back? Let me put it this way. Studio Series Starscream is an AMAZING figure, and no one can deny it's the best rendition of that character we've gotten from the movies in toy form. However, its arms, legs, and much of its torso don't really form any appreciable part of the jet mode either. They just hide a little better underneath, as is the case with the vast majority of air and jet craft Transformers, but somehow that's okay? Who cares if you can pull off the top of the tetra jet and still have a Starscream that's missing several pieces of his silhouette while still having a head, a torso, two arms, and two legs?

Sounds like you're over-reacting; he's just trying to have some fun with his toy for kids; it's a humorous picture >:oP


I don't think Jake was really responding directly to that picture/post, more using it as a springboard to respond to the wider complaints about Siege Starscream.


Thanks, Jettostotle7, that's exactly what my intent was. The picture is funny. I just used it as a starting point to talk about my view of the figure in contrast to the issues other people perceive with it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:02 am

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Did some late night toy hunting and found the wave 2 deluxes. Picked up Ironhide. He’s really cool so far. Only messed with him for 5 minutes. It’s like 1 in the morning. I-)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:17 am

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RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Did some late night toy hunting and found the wave 2 deluxes. Picked up Ironhide. He’s really cool so far. Only messed with him for 5 minutes. It’s like 1 in the morning. I-)


When you're awake again in the morning, could you snap a few size comparisons shots, preferably with Optimus Prime and Sideswipe? I want to see how well Ironhide fits in between the two in terms of his height.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Gemstonegemini » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:43 am

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That drift picture definitely piques my curiosity. I hope they do him in his red/white true Drift colours, rather than his Deadlock Decepticon body, so that he can finally join my Lost Light crew. (Go on Hasbro, make a Rung figure, I dare you. :twisted: )
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:06 am

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Gemstonegemini wrote:That drift picture definitely piques my curiosity. I hope they do him in his red/white true Drift colours, rather than his Deadlock Decepticon body, so that he can finally join my Lost Light crew. (Go on Hasbro, make a Rung figure, I dare you. :twisted: )

I'm personally the opposite: while I won't be disappointed or put off if they make it in Drift colors, I would prefer to get a new Deadlock, as the only official figure of Drift as Deadlock in existence so far was a Takara Legends figure, it would help fill out the Decepticon ranks, and it would work timeline-wise for him to still be a Con pre-Earth.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:40 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:16 am

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carytheone wrote:I got a question for you Siege Soundwave owners. Is the tape deck door damage painted on or molded in? Also is it on the inside of the door?



It is painted on the front of the door.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:38 am

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Soundwave's lamppost mode may just be a happy coincidence. One guy at HasTak fan-transformed it for fun and the crew said "AH! Why not?" and made if official. :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:15 am

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Gemstonegemini wrote:That drift picture definitely piques my curiosity. I hope they do him in his red/white true Drift colours, rather than his Deadlock Decepticon body, so that he can finally join my Lost Light crew. (Go on Hasbro, make a Rung figure, I dare you. :twisted: )



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I believe they already did >:oP

Old IDWverse continuity is dead, though. I doubt they'll go back to it in toy form now.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:20 am

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I'm still picking a soundwave up (its hard to pass on any soundwave, I even had the titanium -but not the baynus sattelite, some lows even I wont stoop to :p) but if the bits fall off that easy like in the review it will be a big negative.

Would be nice if ehobby (or some one muuuch cheaper) did a G1 barricade, the not quite earth/cybertron siege car modes dont work for me. Howevever for siege springer id pick up an evil version if they go the deadlock route for him.

Starscreams alt looks better not attached to the body but mine will be in robot mode anyhoos with the classics being in jet mode (last time I transformed them the feet didn't feel healthy/under stress).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:23 am

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Personally I would be interested in seeing The Masterpiece line handle Tetrajets. Given their pointless backpeddling to "cartoon accuracy" it would make sense to create a piece based on the Seekers very first appearance. Whereas people seem to classify SIEGE Starscream as a 'Shellformer', I doubt the same could be said for a MP equivalent.
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