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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:22 pm

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AcademyofDrX wrote:That said, given GameStop's business position, I don't think it's a very smart move to replace a bankrupt retailer with a struggling one.

I agree, but for whatever reason that's the horse Hasbro is backing right now. They've given them the Ectotron exclusive and in Canada they've become their default store for exclusives to stores that don't exist in Canada.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:54 pm

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I just got my hands on Ironhide and Sixgun, and they're both great. The right leg panel on Ironhide doesn't like to stay tabbed in bot mode, like someone already said (I think it was Ironhidensh?), but otherwise I have no issues to report. I kinda wish Sixgun had wrist articulation, but Cog didn't have it either, so I guess it makes sense. Plus, the two make an awesome combo:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:21 pm

So Chromia is fun-er in person. Definitely an improvement over the Combiner Wars/PotP mold. May have to dig out her T30 to compare that.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:42 pm

Curious if they’ll re-issue T30 Arcee or a tweak of the Titan Master version
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:51 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:18 pm

Motto: "It doesn't matter which universe or timeline you’re from. If you’re dedicated to defending it, you’re on my side."
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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I am praying for a Shattered Glass repaint of Siege Prime. I love that guy, I need more of him


I'd be plenty satisfied with a Nemesis Prime version, but any repaint of thus awesome mold would be hella awesome :x
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:37 pm

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SpikeyTigertron wrote:Curious if they’ll re-issue T30 Arcee or a tweak of the Titan Master version


I'm liking the way those fire blast effects from Firedrive look on Chromia's back thrusters in alt mode. Have you tried experimenting with her transformation yet to find a suitable "big gun" mode for a combiner like Elita Infin1te/Orthia to hold?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:40 am

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Carnivius_Prime wrote:I'd be more impressed if Siege Jetfire has waist articulation since he has that huge column of jet nose all the way down his front.


It is tough to tell if he has waist articulation or not. All of the Hasbro digital renders have him mistranformed. The nose of the jet is supposed to fold under the cockpit but it isn't in the official renders (so very Hasbro). The Takara official photos have him correctly transformed, but I can't tell if there is a waist swivel or not.


An you're right. I mistook the crotch area for the nose of the jet but now I've looked closer at the stock photos of the bot and jet it looks like it's a different more detailed piece compared to the blank area of the nose and that waist articulation could indeed be possible. That seems quite clever improving on the functionality of the G1 design while still looking very similar.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:03 am

Carnivius_Prime wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:I'd be more impressed if Siege Jetfire has waist articulation since he has that huge column of jet nose all the way down his front.


It is tough to tell if he has waist articulation or not. All of the Hasbro digital renders have him mistranformed. The nose of the jet is supposed to fold under the cockpit but it isn't in the official renders (so very Hasbro). The Takara official photos have him correctly transformed, but I can't tell if there is a waist swivel or not.


An you're right. I mistook the crotch area for the nose of the jet but now I've looked closer at the stock photos of the bot and jet it looks like it's a different more detailed piece compared to the blank area of the nose and that waist articulation could indeed be possible. That seems quite clever improving on the functionality of the G1 design while still looking very similar.


As a bonus, someone else posted a photo from Toyfair confirming the waist swivel. :DANCE:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:08 am

https://youtu.be/RcHlPNhGxhM

The end of the nosecone folds down, so the cockpit in the chest is the same from the alt-mode, but the part below the waist is not.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Counterpunch » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:43 am

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This line has grown on me and really ended up impressing me far more than I expected it to.

That being said, I cannot see it as anything other than a soft reboot of Classics/Generations. Everything has a consistent design and also seems subject to a 0.75x multiplier on the height/size of deluxe and voyager figures.

I feel like some figures from Siege kind of have the option of floating up or into the older Generations territory. Skytread, Cog, Brunt, Reflector...but the more mainline characters are dwarfed by older incarnations or characters who they should otherwise be paired with.

All of this is cool btw. Not being critical at all. I'm an adamant Generations collector and honest reflection on the line and scope says that it's pretty much drawn itself to a close.

I also think that there are some interesting releases from the past few years that are somehow forwards compatible with Siege. PotP Dinos, for instance, were definitely too small to be paired with other traditional Generations displays...but they scale damn well to Siege.

Honestly, after so many years, I think it was kind of just difficult to come to terms with starting a whole new Generations style display. But with a lot of thought into it, there's a lot of fun ahead.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:00 am

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
As a bonus, someone else posted a photo from Toyfair confirming the waist swivel. :DANCE:


AcademyofDrX wrote:https://youtu.be/RcHlPNhGxhM

The end of the nosecone folds down, so the cockpit in the chest is the same from the alt-mode, but the part below the waist is not.


Yeah. I mean I don't care for myself cos I'm not collecting this line and never been fond of boxy Jet/Skyfire but I like that Hasbro designed it that way for those who are going to be spending quite a bit of money on that figure. :)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:30 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Curious if they’ll re-issue T30 Arcee or a tweak of the Titan Master version


I'm liking the way those fire blast effects from Firedrive look on Chromia's back thrusters in alt mode. Have you tried experimenting with her transformation yet to find a suitable "big gun" mode for a combiner like Elita Infin1te/Orthia to hold?


I have not yet, but nothing really jumped out at me during transformation
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:32 am

Motto: "shelf space may be fleeting, but plastic is forever"
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Not sure if this has been mentioned, but is it just me or does Siege Ultra Magnus have some lame ass weapon names?

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Simulacrum Blaster - so it's like a blaster? It blasts likenesses?

Stethoscopic Detector - looks like a rifle to me, so what is it detecting?

Magnetic Inducer Launcher - ok a fancy way of launching rockets - cool!

I love that Siege names all the weapons and outside of these silly names, they are a lot of fun. Magnus's weapons are very customizable.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:33 am

Nathaniel Prime wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I am praying for a Shattered Glass repaint of Siege Prime. I love that guy, I need more of him


I'd be plenty satisfied with a Nemesis Prime version, but any repaint of thus awesome mold would be hella awesome :x


I need a Nemesis Siege Prime and a Nova remold of Galaxy Prime
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:36 am

I’m a little miffed they used the Galaxy/Cybertron cab bot in the comics.... I suppose stands out more/matches the siege style better. Regular siege prime is still pretty vanilla G1. Though the more I play with him.... the more I prefer him to Magnus (cab) or the pics/reviews I see of Bumblebee Prime.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:40 am

carytheone wrote:Not sure if this has been mentioned, but is it just me or does Siege Ultra Magnus have some lame ass weapon names?

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Simulacrum Blaster - so it's like a blaster? It blasts likenesses?

Stethoscopic Detector - looks like a rifle to me, so what is it detecting?

Magnetic Inducer Launcher - ok a fancy way of launching rockets - cool!

I love that Siege names all the weapons and outside of these silly names, they are a lot of fun. Magnus's weapons are very customizable.

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I agree some of the names are weird. Soundwave’s are weird too.

Back to Magnus. I’m on the fence if I like the black guns... they feel off.... attached to the silver gun. And using them by themselves they feel way too tall. They do make good leg armor/flip guns though.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:53 am

Motto: "shelf space may be fleeting, but plastic is forever"
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SpikeyTigertron wrote:Back to Magnus. I’m on the fence if I like the black guns... they feel off.... attached to the silver gun. And using them by themselves they feel way too tall. They do make good leg armor/flip guns though.
They look cool, but feel unnecessary. I wish they could peg together to make one thicc gun. I found that if you peg them into the backs of his legs, they just disappear.

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Another user shared this clever use for them as well.

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They'll end up in my un-loved accessory drawer ultimately though.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:54 am

Not a bad stand-in for less than half the price
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:13 am

carytheone wrote:
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Back to Magnus. I’m on the fence if I like the black guns... they feel off.... attached to the silver gun. And using them by themselves they feel way too tall. They do make good leg armor/flip guns though.
They look cool, but feel unnecessary. I wish they could peg together to make one thicc gun. I found that if you peg them into the backs of his legs, they just disappear.

Another user shared this clever use for them as well.

They'll end up in my un-loved accessory drawer ultimately though.


I've found that they scale well as a set of pistols for a combiner. Mine in particular are going to the Elita-1/Orthia Combiner, if/when Greenlight and Lancer ever show up.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:15 am

Motto: "Our society's downfall will not be this war. The war IS our society. That which will get us will be the little things. Some humanoid race, some tossed cannon, the little things that no one looks out for. THAT is for what we must be vigilant."
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Counterpunch wrote:This line has grown on me and really ended up impressing me far more than I expected it to.

That being said, I cannot see it as anything other than a soft reboot of Classics/Generations. Everything has a consistent design and also seems subject to a 0.75x multiplier on the height/size of deluxe and voyager figures.

I feel like some figures from Siege kind of have the option of floating up or into the older Generations territory. Skytread, Cog, Brunt, Reflector...but the more mainline characters are dwarfed by older incarnations or characters who they should otherwise be paired with.

All of this is cool btw. Not being critical at all. I'm an adamant Generations collector and honest reflection on the line and scope says that it's pretty much drawn itself to a close.

I also think that there are some interesting releases from the past few years that are somehow forwards compatible with Siege. PotP Dinos, for instance, were definitely too small to be paired with other traditional Generations displays...but they scale damn well to Siege.

Honestly, after so many years, I think it was kind of just difficult to come to terms with starting a whole new Generations style display. But with a lot of thought into it, there's a lot of fun ahead.

This is why you and Scotty need to do the Classics/Henkei/Universe/Generations retrotake like you did for Masterpiece. I would even argue that even though most of Combiner Wars (the repaints as the Autobot Cars dont hold a candle to the Clasdics line) still slot in, and TR and almost all pf POTP still offered the same new takes as previous lines, Generations got away from the OG Classics/Universe mantra when it started being "serielized" with the Prime Wars trilogy. (Not that that is a bad thing, but it is a change) You might be able to make that pitch for the HFTD/RtS era, and maybe when they adopted IDW, but that was more of a relection of another trend rather than being a trend, or in this case a mainline release.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:20 am

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Counterpunch wrote:This line has grown on me and really ended up impressing me far more than I expected it to.

That being said, I cannot see it as anything other than a soft reboot of Classics/Generations. Everything has a consistent design and also seems subject to a 0.75x multiplier on the height/size of deluxe and voyager figures.

I feel like some figures from Siege kind of have the option of floating up or into the older Generations territory. Skytread, Cog, Brunt, Reflector...but the more mainline characters are dwarfed by older incarnations or characters who they should otherwise be paired with.

All of this is cool btw. Not being critical at all. I'm an adamant Generations collector and honest reflection on the line and scope says that it's pretty much drawn itself to a close.

I also think that there are some interesting releases from the past few years that are somehow forwards compatible with Siege. PotP Dinos, for instance, were definitely too small to be paired with other traditional Generations displays...but they scale damn well to Siege.

Honestly, after so many years, I think it was kind of just difficult to come to terms with starting a whole new Generations style display. But with a lot of thought into it, there's a lot of fun ahead.


Personally I feel that a lot of the Prime Wars Trilogy stuff fits with Siege to some degree of success, and even some thrilling thirty stuff, but anything before that tends to look over-sized. Especially when you look at figures which were already too tall for what they should have been like Universe Sideswipe. Actually, if they weren't all redundant or too small, most of the original classics 2006 stuff scales pretty well with Siege.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:56 am

Notable exception: the Classics seeker mold is too short instead of too tall. They looked fine beside Megatron and Shockwave, and I think Soundwave will be okay, but Reflector is going to throw the whole thing off since the Siege seekers are voyagers.

It'll be okay, though. Siege + Classics seekers + TR Frenzy/Rumble + Prime Wars Insecticons + CW Devastator should be a fine season 1 lineup. Megs and SW alt-modes will be the biggest difference, and I can live with that.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:56 am

Motto: "Our society's downfall will not be this war. The war IS our society. That which will get us will be the little things. Some humanoid race, some tossed cannon, the little things that no one looks out for. THAT is for what we must be vigilant."
Weapon: Twin Shoulder-Mounted Rocket Launchers
Speaking of Siege Magnus weapons, remmeber this oldie frpm his OTHER War For Cyberton series? I dare say this was made for him.

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The smaller gun makes a great shpulder cannon and looks good as a pistol. I almost like it more than his actual rifle.

Yes, thats Club Side Burn behind him and the minicon is Universe Roadhandler who came with Swerve. Makes an excellent Powered Buggy

AcademyofDrX wrote:Notable exception: the Classics seeker mold is too short instead of too tall. They looked fine beside Megatron and Shockwave, and I think Soundwave will be okay, but Reflector is going to throw the whole thing off since the Siege seekers are voyagers.

It'll be okay, though. Siege + Classics seekers + TR Frenzy/Rumble + Prime Wars Insecticons + CW Devastator should be a fine season 1 lineup. Megs and SW alt-modes will be the biggest difference, and I can live with that.


For me, the Classics Seekers trump everything simply because I have 8 of them. The Og Trio, the Coneheads, Acid Storm, and the Botcon repaont of Ramjet as Dirge as a random seeker (because we totally had random seekers painted as other seekers, so it kinda works)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:16 pm

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Flashwave wrote:
For me, the Classics Seekers trump everything simply because I have 8 of them. The Og Trio, the Coneheads, Acid Storm, and the Botcon repaont of Ramjet as Dirge as a random seeker (because we totally had random seekers painted as other seekers, so it kinda works)


I dunno. Even way back before I switched to movie-stuffs I was buying Classics and I had Starscream and Skywarp and still felt they were too short in robot mode and obviously far too small in jet mode (compared to Bumblebee and Optimus' vehicle modes but this often happens with G1 stuff cos of silly scale). They were certainly huge improvements on their G1 toy counterparts though.
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