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[Skritz]

I'd love to see them redo the Cybertron Defense trio. That and Hound head show him with Hot Shot's head.

Eh, I think redos like that would be inferior in their case.

Not all of us were collecting during the Unicron Trilogy, sadly.

[william-james88]

I'd love to see them redo the Cybertron Defense trio. That and Hound head show him with Hot Shot's head.

Eh, I think redos like that would be inferior in their case.

Not all of us were collecting during the Unicron Trilogy, sadly.

Its not like any of these toys are rarer or more expensive than any retail toy these days. And many would argue you are getting more with these older toys.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I'd love to see them redo the Cybertron Defense trio. That and Hound head show him with Hot Shot's head.

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Eh, I think redos like that would be inferior in their case.

Not all of us were collecting during the Unicron Trilogy, sadly.

Hey, I had to collect most of mine after the fact and I'm still not done. Most of them aren't too horrible on eBay even now. The main ones that will be a pain in your tail are Galvatron, Nemesis Breaker, and Menasor.

[Skritz]

By the way if Sureahot get his own mold as a space baja buggy there is a fairly wide pool of potential recolors:
-Joyride (and his JP counterpart, Ranger
-Aquafend (and his recolor as a Decepticon, Jetstorm)
-Fizzle
-Ruckus
-Gripper
That's a lot of buggy guys. TF need more buggy molds, damn it.

[Sabrblade]

I'd love to see them redo the Cybertron Defense trio. That and Hound head show him with Hot Shot's head.

Eh, I think redos like that would be inferior in their case.

Not all of us were collecting during the Unicron Trilogy, sadly.

Its not like any of these toys are rarer or more expensive than any retail toy these days. And many would argue you are getting more with these older toys.

Hey, I had to collect most of mine after the fact and I'm still not done. Most of them aren't too horrible on eBay even now. The main ones that will be a pain in your tail are Galvatron, Nemesis Breaker, and Menasor.

Yeah, I literally just bought myself a still-in-box Cybertron Defense Red Alert from TFSource just last month.

[Decepticon Stryker]

I'd love to see them redo the Cybertron Defense trio. That and Hound head show him with Hot Shot's head.

Eh, I think redos like that would be inferior in their case.

Not all of us were collecting during the Unicron Trilogy, sadly.

Its not like any of these toys are rarer or more expensive than any retail toy these days. And many would argue you are getting more with these older toys.

And yet I've only just now found a Thunderblast that wasn't at or above $50.

[Stargrave]

Heck ...hmm, you know, put a Thunderblast sculpted head on a repaint of Chromia get a female on the Decepticon ranks, I’d buy that.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Heck ...hmm, you know, put a Thunderblast sculpted head on a repaint of Chromia get a female on the Decepticon ranks, I’d buy that.

Ehhh. I'd prefer them take it further by reshelling the car a bit to look like an aquatic vehicle like she originally was. Much like baja buggies, aquatic vehicles need more love.



I think the Punch/Counterpunch mold could be retooled as Pointblank, with his spoiler shield taking the place of the Prime Armor. Might take reshelling, but the transformation engineering is there.

Apologies if anyone else said this.

[Emerje]

Why? Why restock the W1 dudes when clearly everyone is freaking out for Reflector?

Reflector is already repacked in a revision wave.
This reminds me of people being scared about TR Krok amd Quake. How did that turn out?

Great since they were released again in later waves and revisions. The Jumpstarters, Windblade, Missfire, and Perceptor on the other hand, never saw their waves in store and none of them had second runs. I had to pay more than twice retail to get a Missfire on Amazon to go with his fellow Targetmasters. It's a moot point for Refractor if he's showing up in later waves, but since revision waves can block out numbered waves in stores (why I never saw TR wave 4 or 5 in stores) it can be just as harmful or even more so than small packouts in a case. That revision wave getting more Refractors on shelves could mean those same shelves never see wave 5's Spinister and Crosshairs.

Emerje

[Skritz]

This is both funny and sad because I saw Misfire shelfwarming back in the days, to the point I bought an extra for customizing.

[blackeyedprime]

This is both funny and sad because I saw Misfire shelfwarming back in the days, to the point I bought an extra for customizing.

I was surprised that the custom cross hairs used a missfire head as most ebayers seemed to be very aware that it wasn't easy to get and was marked up to at least double the price (for us it was cheaper to order a legends version by at least £10-17). Was the same same for slugs linger and the jumpsstarter/windblade. I gave up on the jumpstarters and got both the legends for the price it would have been for me to get the remaining hasbro one. Windblade didn't matter to me which version I got and I was really undecided on missfire as I liked the hasbro one. At least there is more solidarity with the combined line and it if waves get skipped the Japanese releases will be a way of avoiding sclapers to some degree.

[Skritz]

Honestly for Titans Return I got rather lucky and bought most of the line in-store, even if the latter purchase were found in some tiny Montréal merch stores with small Transformers sections. POTP was a lot worse and Siege is lagging behind like crazy, even more so than the already-laggy-back-then Titans Return.

[Stargrave]

Stellar Sunday and salutations Seibertronians! Thanks to Seibertronian Cyberpath we have some extremely cool comparison charts of the recent reveals for the Transformers Siege line. These are always fun to see the evolution of each character sometimes all the way back to their initial designs off the drafting board all the way up to their current incarnations. They also serve as a great quick guide to see what design and engineering nods are taken from the older versions and included in the current ones. Enjoy the peruse and as always share your views with the Seibertron crew in the forums!

[WeatherManNX01]

As usual, Astrotrain's modes look a little compromised by the other modes, but I think this is probably the best iteration on the character. The train looks like a proper train, and the shuttle looks like a proper shuttle, both better than the Titans Return version.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

As usual, Astrotrain's modes look a little compromised by the other modes, but I think this is probably the best iteration on the character. The train looks like a proper train, and the shuttle looks like a proper shuttle, both better than the Titans Return version.

Honestly, I don't mind those slight compromises, they are literally part of his design now, and it's pretty OK now to me

[Randomhero]

No love for classics astrotrain...

[leokearon]

Looks like Apeface is doomed to have a lackluster jet mode

[transformers_va]

Thank you Cyberpath and Stargrave for bringing these to us! They are a very cool set of comparisons.

I am loving these Siege characters! In my opinion they are the best line out of the last several lines. I am a little worried about the possible hollowness of Apeface's upper arms in gorilla mode, but that is an extremely minor nitpick in an otherwise amazing release of Transformers

[blackeyedprime]

I'm the odd one out, I still like the TR figure and think it fits better with the siege on cybertron line. The siege astro train will go with my movie figures. Doubt we will see it repainted as sentinel, that color scheme just made the tr mold so bland (yet it will probably look good in shuttle mode for use with the movie figures. Though the tr one always looks like it's missing a part/the wings to attach to his chest.

[transformers_va]

I agree with you about the colour scheme, but for me it was the train mode that killed it for me. I love that Siege Astrotrain will be in the form of an old school locomotive

[Decepticon Stryker]

It's probably because of the render, but Astrotrain's colors look like it's a blend of his animation colors and his original toy colors. Apeface's gorilla hands are the only thing throwing me off about him. Crosshairs is literally a Crosshairs colored Autotrooper. Don't tell me you can't see it. He just needs a white paintjob with blue highlights and it's an Autotrooper.

[Albatross250]

Siege Astrotrain looks like his totally have his Cartoon/Anime Colors, that's a very nice detailing.

Also why so much hate with Apeface, i mean for some reason why they called it a "Brick with wings?"

[Cobotron]

I lucked out and found a Springer at a Walmuck tucked behind all the Leaders on the bottom shelf. (sorry to whoever may have been hiding it back there. Might wan't to rethink your hidey hole situation. )

Anyway, an unfortunate series of events kept me from playing with him last night. But I just had a chance to sit down with him and run him through all 3 modes.

I was happy with T30 Springer, and had they never given us another version, I would have been ok with that. I honestly never thought T30 Spring Green could ever be out done. I was wrong. This new Springer is CRAZ-AMAZE-BALL-SUPER-RAD-AND-TOTALLY-AWESOME-COOL!!!!!

[gothsaurus]

Yeah I think it’s really good to take notice we have already gotten a space train. That makes me really glad they are sticking to their guns to make this one look like the g1 version. It really seems to pull off the memorable character we remember from the movie.

I think like many, I may swap places of this one and the last one to have it fit the line better. Easy to do.

Snapdragon delivers really well. Looking at the differences to the g1 makes me wonder if his engineering is a split to make both horrorcons from the same base tooling.

Crosshairs looks good as robot. It’s a bit disappointing that his vehicle misses the dune buggy style - and wow that prototype sketch really shines - but let’s face it. None of us have any attachment to the character. If there were any toy from the line to kinda fudge on, he’s a good choice. Perfect head sculpt. Good enough.

[Albatross250]

I'm the odd one out, I still like the TR figure and think it fits better with the siege on cybertron line. The siege astro train will go with my movie figures. Doubt we will see it repainted as sentinel, that color scheme just made the tr mold so bland (yet it will probably look good in shuttle mode for use with the movie figures. Though the tr one always looks like it's missing a part/the wings to attach to his chest.

TR/Legends Astrotrain looks like something...
If im not missing out on this one, its probably homage to the Henkei Henkei Astrotrain figure