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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:26 am

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Actually I think the original listing said that the extra stuff can combine into a weapon platform of some description. But if that's not a thing any more just have him posed on the launch pad, or combine it with one of the base modes from Titans Returns or the city bots ;)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:16 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby bengear » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:52 am

i must have missed it but that holo mirage head is very g1 toy compared to normal mirage from what i can tell. any chances of that head appearing on a normal mirage in the future?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:23 am

bengear wrote:i must have missed it but that holo mirage head is very g1 toy compared to normal mirage from what i can tell. any chances of that head appearing on a normal mirage in the future?

They are distinct so that you have to buy both ;)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:43 am

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This may have been covered before, but is Astrotrain the old leader height or still the voyager+ of Siege height?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:59 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:This may have been covered before, but is Astrotrain the old leader height or still the voyager+ of Siege height?


Like Ultra Magnus and Shockwave, that Astrotrain is a "voyager" with lots of accessories.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:12 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:This may have been covered before, but is Astrotrain the old leader height or still the voyager+ of Siege height?


Like Ultra Magnus and Shockwave, that Astrotrain is a "voyager" with lots of accessories.

Wirhout a deep dive into the photos, I think he is a bit bigger than the Dearmored Magnus, so a little closer to the old Ultra Class than Voyager, but the Trailer still takes up a chunk of the "parts count", so to speak
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Unicron Magnus » Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:12 pm

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I'm really tempted by that Astrotrain, even though I already have the Voyager from Titans Return.

$50 kind of hurts, though, especially if the new "Leader Class" is roughly Voyager-sized.

I'm liking Spinister too, especially the colors, but I tend to get weird QC issues with helicopter bots (for example, my Generations Whirl has the "gearing" misassembled), and $20 seems really steep for a Deluxe.

Has anyone had any QC issues with this line so far?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:29 pm

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Unicron Magnus wrote:Has anyone had any QC issues with this line so far?


Back in 2017 when Hasbro/Takara moved their production from China to Vietnam, the QC issues were rampant and horrible. I experienced wrong pairing of guns, misassembled legs, loose hips, even missing parts and bits. Both in the Titan Return and The Last Knight lines.

But now, I think they have FINALLY got their s#it together. Some issues are merely design issues like Siege Starscream chest panel or SS Old Camaro Bumblebee's roof. So far, every single Siege or Studio Series figures I bought have been absolutely PERFECT. No loose bits, no missasembly, no weird accessories issues, no missing parts. For the whole of the Siege line, there is absolutely no stinkers either! Every single figures so far are rated from "good" to "mind-blowing".

It's been a long while since we got such a perfect line.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:44 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Unicron Magnus wrote:Has anyone had any QC issues with this line so far?


Back in 2017 when Hasbro/Takara moved their production from China to Vietnam, the QC issues were rampant and horrible. I experienced wrong pairing of guns, misassembled legs, loose hips, even missing parts and bits. Both in the Titan Return and The Last Knight lines.

But now, I think they have FINALLY got their s#it together. Some issues are merely design issues like Siege Starscream chest panel or SS Old Camaro Bumblebee's roof. So far, every single Siege or Studio Series figures I bought have been absolutely PERFECT. No loose bits, no missasembly, no weird accessories issues, no missing parts. For the whole of the Siege line, there is absolutely no stinkers either! Every single figures so far are rated from "good" to "mind-blowing".

It's been a long while since we got such a perfect line.

I've not had any terrible QC issues, the only two that come to mind are incredibly minor and basically non-issues. My Chromia feels a bit loose, despite nothing actually being loose. Moreso it's just incredibly smooth joints. The only other QC issue I have is my Magnus' ratchets feel a bit weak when his armor's on and his waist is, again, incredibly smooth so it feels loose. Overall though, this line's been killing it with great QC
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:35 pm

Unicron Magnus wrote:I'm really tempted by that Astrotrain, even though I already have the Voyager from Titans Return.

$50 kind of hurts, though, especially if the new "Leader Class" is roughly Voyager-sized.

I'm liking Spinister too, especially the colors, but I tend to get weird QC issues with helicopter bots (for example, my Generations Whirl has the "gearing" misassembled), and $20 seems really steep for a Deluxe.

Has anyone had any QC issues with this line so far?

There's been some qc issues like starscream's chest and one of those shoulder armours on Magnus not lining up to tab in.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Roadbuster » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:52 pm

Had one QC issue with Springer a few weeks ago. Springer's face paint can be damaged easily during transformation.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:18 pm

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Roadbuster wrote:Had one QC issue with Springer a few weeks ago. Springer's face paint can be damaged easily during transformation.


Such things are nothing compared to missing parts or a bot with two right legs.
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Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Micromaster 10 pack Video Review

Postby Stargrave » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:29 pm

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Just in from YouTuber Long's Toys is a review of the new Target exclusive Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Micromaster 10 pack! This set includes an assortment of Decepticons and Autobots such as Ricon, Irontread, Groundshaker, Overair, Road Police, Wheelblaze, Cratermaker, Firelane, Slyhopper, and Nightflight! Most of these have already seen release in different paint jobs and decos throughout the waves of Siege releases but are presented here as all new characters, some harkening back to the utter obscurities of Micromaster history. Enjoy the view and share your thoughts with the Seibertron crew in the forums. As always stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news!

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:51 pm

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Can one of the Transformers lore keepers here explain to me why Cratermaker and Fireline look exactly like Powerbomb and Gunlift from Japanese G1 (Zone), but are branded here as Decepticons instead of the Autobots they originally were?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:55 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Roadbuster wrote:Had one QC issue with Springer a few weeks ago. Springer's face paint can be damaged easily during transformation.


Such things are nothing compared to missing parts or a bot with two right legs.
2017. Never again.


My first siege Springer was missing a right front wheel (bought from Pulse). Second Springer (from amazon) has all his wheels but a yellow over spray on his helicopter roof assembly. Also each one had very different tolerances in the various joints and panel clips.

He’s first figure i’ve had with glaring issues... besides first run ironhide’s loose leg panels and Starscream’s chesr.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:14 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Can one of the Transformers lore keepers here explain to me why Cratermaker and Fireline look exactly like Powerbomb and Gunlift from Japanese G1 (Zone), but are branded here as Decepticons instead of the Autobots they originally were?
Most likely they wanted to have some sort of familiar decos to use for the molds' redecos, but also probably wanted to have an equal number of Autobot and Decepticon weapon pairs in the whole Siege line (seven pairs of each), and so made Cratermaker and Fireline into a new Decepticon team.

Though, back in 1990-1991, Takara sold nearly all of the Decepticon Micromaster teams as Autobots instead, so this new Micromaster team colored like two Japanese-exclusive Autobot Micromaster decos but sold by Hasbro as Decepticons is kinda like an inverse of how Takara made almost everyone into an Autobot in Japan back in the early 90s.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:35 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Can one of the Transformers lore keepers here explain to me why Cratermaker and Fireline look exactly like Powerbomb and Gunlift from Japanese G1 (Zone), but are branded here as Decepticons instead of the Autobots they originally were?
Most likely they wanted to have some sort of familiar decos to use for the molds' redecos, but also probably wanted to have an equal number of Autobot and Decepticon weapon pairs in the whole Siege line (seven pairs of each), and so made Cratermaker and Fireline into a new Decepticon team.

Though, back in 1990-1991, Takara sold nearly all of the Decepticon Micromaster teams as Autobots instead, so this new Micromaster team colored like two Japanese-exclusive Autobot Micromaster decos but sold by Hasbro as Decepticons is kinda like an inverse of how Takara made almost everyone into an Autobot in Japan back in the early 90s.


That's got to be one of the most convoluted, weirdest homages Hasbro has done with a repaint. Wow.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:43 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:Can one of the Transformers lore keepers here explain to me why Cratermaker and Fireline look exactly like Powerbomb and Gunlift from Japanese G1 (Zone), but are branded here as Decepticons instead of the Autobots they originally were?
Most likely they wanted to have some sort of familiar decos to use for the molds' redecos, but also probably wanted to have an equal number of Autobot and Decepticon weapon pairs in the whole Siege line (seven pairs of each), and so made Cratermaker and Fireline into a new Decepticon team.

Though, back in 1990-1991, Takara sold nearly all of the Decepticon Micromaster teams as Autobots instead, so this new Micromaster team colored like two Japanese-exclusive Autobot Micromaster decos but sold by Hasbro as Decepticons is kinda like an inverse of how Takara made almost everyone into an Autobot in Japan back in the early 90s.


That's got to be one of the most convoluted, weirdest homages Hasbro has done with a repaint. Wow.


It's just conjucture, really. For all we know, they were like:

"We need redeco ideas"
"What about those Japanese toys?"
"O, all right. Let's make them Decepticons, I mean, redecos back then switched sides, right?"
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:47 pm

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So, I recently got Soundwave. Definitely enjoying this figure, but he definitely needs his cassettes. The vehicle modes aren't great, but they're acceptable. Just wish they'd gone with the tank/SUV of the WFC/FOC Soundwave
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:44 am

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So War for Cybertron: Siege is winding down. Which ‘bots do you wish you had seen in the line? For me, the Autobot is Sunstreaker and the Deception is Blitzwing. Sunstreaker could have easily been a slight mod to the Sideswipe mold and would have been great with his bro. Blitzwing is just a personal favorite (I got the original off the shelf) and I would have loved to see an update.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Vic Zanzibar » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:26 am

Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, I recently got Soundwave. Definitely enjoying this figure, but he definitely needs his cassettes. The vehicle modes aren't great, but they're acceptable. Just wish they'd gone with the tank/SUV of the WFC/FOC Soundwave

I wasn't gonna get that mold at first, but after replaceing my Deluxe Classics Seekers with a bunch of Voyager size Siegekers and adding non-armored Siege Shockwave to put next to Voyager size Megatron, it kinda feels weird to have Soundwave in there as a suddenly gigantic by comparison Leader class figure. I'll definitely keep the TR figure in the display, but I think the Soundblaster version of the Siege dude is a definite purchase for me now. The only thing is that I love all of the TR cassettes; especially Rumble and Frenzy; and I don't really wanna replace them in my display with the kinda dinky Siege Micromaster versions. I guess they can all coexist on the same shelf. No big deal.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Moonshot » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:45 pm

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I got Jetfire about a week ago from Pulse. He is awesome and basically perfect Sunbow G1 Skyfire I always wanted. I love the scale size, transformation, weapons and cool new engineering of the hands along his backpack booster. He looks so good with his Decepticon symbol next to my Planet X WfC Starscream. Just great stuff all around and has me excited for commander class size SkyLynx ;)

More I see Barricade the more I almost want to get him. But I still think I like my TFCC Barricade w/Frenzy slightly more. Already having Prowl and soon Smokescreen in that mould also makes him easier to skip.

Does anyone else think that Spinister may be repainted into Rotorstorm? Thats the only reason I am thinking of holding off getting him.

Also does anyone else think we may get new voyager class Cyclonus and Scourge molds in the next part of this trilogy. Seeing as its a big push for Sunbow G1 accurate Cybertronian alt modes? I would love at least good voyager Scourge.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:23 pm

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We'd only get scourge and Cyclonus if the bot mode scale needs fixing. Afterall, Hasbro would argue we've just had scourge and Cyclonus in the past few years and one of them had a nigh on perfect G1 alt mode. If we see a new Galvaltron, then we might see those two to correct the scale but otherwise, just play it by here.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:28 pm

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i wonder if they would ever release the other 2 members of each team for example
in the battle patrol Sunrunner and Sidetrack
these new micromasters feel incomplete
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