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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:34 pm

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Flashwave wrote:Amazon delivered my Mirage today. I am really excited with him. The Bot mode is awesome, I love his blocky but streamlined proportiin, I think he has one of the best weapons loadouts in mainline Siege with a really cool Rocket Launcher, although I do wish it had an articulated handle and could aim up, I like the Transformation and how all the wheels and stuff flip flop places, and despite the caveat that it is a really sucky race car, I like the car mode. To me, it has a lot more in common with a Dragster than the F1 Racer he id trying to mimic, and I almost wish they went more into that motif knowing the comptomises made to the car, but they woulda been lambasted for that too so its a lose-lose. The transparent legs are a thing, buts not overly noticablr bring such a dark colorso I like it.


May I ask when you ordered yours?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:38 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Flashwave wrote:Amazon delivered my Mirage today. I am really excited with him. The Bot mode is awesome, I love his blocky but streamlined proportiin, I think he has one of the best weapons loadouts in mainline Siege with a really cool Rocket Launcher, although I do wish it had an articulated handle and could aim up, I like the Transformation and how all the wheels and stuff flip flop places, and despite the caveat that it is a really sucky race car, I like the car mode. To me, it has a lot more in common with a Dragster than the F1 Racer he id trying to mimic, and I almost wish they went more into that motif knowing the comptomises made to the car, but they woulda been lambasted for that too so its a lose-lose. The transparent legs are a thing, buts not overly noticablr bring such a dark colorso I like it.


May I ask when you ordered yours?

Long time ago, galaxy far far away?

*checks his order history*

Feb 16 preorder. Is this a new thing? Has he not hit mass circulation yet? Should I be taking pictures and sending it into nees? I bever know when I have sonething early, I am always so far behind usually
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby triKlops » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:46 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:50 pm

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triKlops wrote:Got Barricade in Friday, Mirage in today. Both from Amazon; Barricade ordered recently, Mirage ordered months ago.

Aww, I missed him? *Backorders Barricade*

I guess I should mention Walmart shipped me Bluestreak as well though, so I got A Datson this weekend.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:03 pm

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Flashwave wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Flashwave wrote:Amazon delivered my Mirage today. I am really excited with him. The Bot mode is awesome, I love his blocky but streamlined proportiin, I think he has one of the best weapons loadouts in mainline Siege with a really cool Rocket Launcher, although I do wish it had an articulated handle and could aim up, I like the Transformation and how all the wheels and stuff flip flop places, and despite the caveat that it is a really sucky race car, I like the car mode. To me, it has a lot more in common with a Dragster than the F1 Racer he id trying to mimic, and I almost wish they went more into that motif knowing the comptomises made to the car, but they woulda been lambasted for that too so its a lose-lose. The transparent legs are a thing, buts not overly noticablr bring such a dark colorso I like it.


May I ask when you ordered yours?

Long time ago, galaxy far far away?

*checks his order history*

Feb 16 preorder. Is this a new thing? Has he not hit mass circulation yet? Should I be taking pictures and sending it into nees? I bever know when I have sonething early, I am always so far behind usually


He's slowly starting to arrive along with Barricade and Impactor, both online and in stores. Of course, depending on what each store has backlogged it may be while before saturation.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sideswipe G-Win » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:04 am

Is anyone else unhappy that the Cybertronian look was just dropped in favour of Earth modes? I'm all G1 and I love the new reveals for Earthrise, but I'm really bummed out that most of the G1 Autobot roster won't be finished in the Cybetronian forms. Has there been any word on this from Hasbro? (I'm new, so please no flame-blasts for my not being up to date!) :)
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Postby Seibertron » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:34 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:56 am

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Sideswipe G-Win wrote:Is anyone else unhappy that the Cybertronian look was just dropped in favour of Earth modes? I'm all G1 and I love the new reveals for Earthrise, but I'm really bummed out that most of the G1 Autobot roster won't be finished in the Cybetronian forms. Has there been any word on this from Hasbro? (I'm new, so please no flame-blasts for my not being up to date!) :)

The way things are going I'm guessing the third part will be movie based or later meaning a return to Cybertronian/futuristic alt modes. Whether they did Earthrise now or as the third part with some planet hopping in between they were always going to do Earth based line as part of the trilogy. And really, was anyone expecting mini Masterpieces? I'm very happy with the progression of War for Cybertron.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:54 am

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Sideswipe G-Win wrote:Is anyone else unhappy that the Cybertronian look was just dropped in favour of Earth modes? I'm all G1 and I love the new reveals for Earthrise, but I'm really bummed out that most of the G1 Autobot roster won't be finished in the Cybetronian forms. Has there been any word on this from Hasbro? (I'm new, so please no flame-blasts for my not being up to date!) :)



Nope. I’m super happy. The couple of Seige figures I actually kept for myself are now getting tossed to my kids. I cared very little for siege, and Earthrise is like a breath of fresh air.



That said, if the siege line sold well for Hasbro, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some more of these cybertronian forms showing up later on. Only time will tell, but Hasbro loves money far more than they love consistency.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Lore Keeper » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:03 am

Emerje wrote:
Sideswipe G-Win wrote:Is anyone else unhappy that the Cybertronian look was just dropped in favour of Earth modes? I'm all G1 and I love the new reveals for Earthrise, but I'm really bummed out that most of the G1 Autobot roster won't be finished in the Cybetronian forms. Has there been any word on this from Hasbro? (I'm new, so please no flame-blasts for my not being up to date!) :)

The way things are going I'm guessing the third part will be movie based or later meaning a return to Cybertronian/futuristic alt modes. Whether they did Earthrise now or as the third part with some planet hopping in between they were always going to do Earth based line as part of the trilogy. And really, was anyone expecting mini Masterpieces? I'm very happy with the progression of War for Cybertron.

Emerje

I'm kind of torn on the reveal. The Earthrise figures are phenomenal, but I was expecting the War for Cybertron trilogy to actually take place (at least mostly) on cybertron, during the civil war. I was looking forward to seeing the war more fleshed out and getting those Cybertronian modes everyone was expecting (like Bumblebee's). I also worry that with ER being so staunchly G1 in theme, we won't be getting any more nods to other continuities like Galaxy Upgrade Prime. So, I don't dislike Earthrise in any way, just wish we got more of something different.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:17 am

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Sideswipe G-Win wrote:Is anyone else unhappy that the Cybertronian look was just dropped in favour of Earth modes? I'm all G1 and I love the new reveals for Earthrise, but I'm really bummed out that most of the G1 Autobot roster won't be finished in the Cybetronian forms. Has there been any word on this from Hasbro? (I'm new, so please no flame-blasts for my not being up to date!) :)


I’ve mentioned it numerous times before, so many are probably tired of me discussing it - but since you brought it up, yes, I was very disappointed when I found out Earthrise would include yet more 80’s-inspired designs. I was hoping the entire trilogy would include Cybertronian alt modes. I think there is a wealth of opportunity there which needs further exploration.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:31 am

Sideswipe G-Win wrote:Is anyone else unhappy that the Cybertronian look was just dropped in favour of Earth modes? I'm all G1 and I love the new reveals for Earthrise, but I'm really bummed out that most of the G1 Autobot roster won't be finished in the Cybetronian forms. Has there been any word on this from Hasbro? (I'm new, so please no flame-blasts for my not being up to date!) :)


Not really. Feels more like siege was the first episode of the cartoon. Earthrise is the rest of season one and two and part three will be released around the time Unicron is put out and I’m wagering that’s gonna be a heavy season three

Hasbro never said once that intended to do everyone from 84 in siege and I hate to break it to everyone but they’re not going to get everyone else in Earthrise and part three. They will probably complete the 84 cast because there’s only a few left not including all the minibots but dont expect they’re gonna complete casts like 1985. They did 98% of the Decepticons in one line which is great but fairly easy when the Decepticons were half the size the autobots
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby gothsaurus » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:41 am

Yeah, I'm definitely disappointed that it appears to have switched focus to Earth without doing all of the heavy-hitters from the cast. BUT I'm hoping — like with combiners and headmasters — that there will still be some peppered in as the trilogy continues.

While I am excited at how good these earth modes look, it's a tragic missed opportunity that Hasbro apparently skipped the Cybertron modes for Wheeljack, Jazz and Bee. I'm holding out hopes these may show up in a box set or Pulse exclusive or such. (MTMTE box set with conductor rods accessories anyone??)
Seriously — Aside from the tetrajets, those seems like the entire reason you would do a line of Cybertronian vehicles. Everything else would be just icing.

Now I'll be hoping for "mini-masterpieces" for all the major players, though these second season guys are VERY welcome to me. (Not to mention obscure mail order characters. Bravo.) Honestly, anything from the Diaclone toy line being done justice is absolute tops.

Also, the way they are including accessories to give nods to specific episodes — like the skis and blaster for Cliffjumper — is very well thought out. Props.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:28 pm

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Any reason why they're using EU packaging for the unboxing (no tm and warning in 26 languages!)?

And I found something interesting: the product codes for the Battle Masters and Apeface are in the same region as the Earthrise Wave 1 codes E71**, while the rest are past that with E82**. Pulled up maybe?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:34 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Any reason why they're using EU packaging for the unboxing (no tm and warning in 26 languages!)?


It is my understanding that will be the standard going forward.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:57 pm

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Sideswipe G-Win wrote:Is anyone else unhappy that the Cybertronian look was just dropped in favour of Earth modes? I'm all G1 and I love the new reveals for Earthrise, but I'm really bummed out that most of the G1 Autobot roster won't be finished in the Cybetronian forms. Has there been any word on this from Hasbro? (I'm new, so please no flame-blasts for my not being up to date!) :)


Absolutely. Other than the SIEGE Tetrajets, the Original WFC line (parallel with the games) is exactly what this one should have been. Which only now serves to highlight the massive shortcomings of SIEGE in general.

They purposely skipped out the Autobots that had Real Cybertronian modes from the Sunbow pilot, so they could just flog "futuristic cars" instead. Pure laziness from the design team. The half hearted attempt at a Cybertronian Autobot line have been scrapped altogether now, in favour of more 80's visual relics.

The "Flier" Decepticons, Micro/Battlemasters and Weaponisers were the only really authentic part of this entire line. I'd include Jetfire and Omega Supreme in that but they aren't purposely SIEGE designs, in as much as original figure updates that could have existed in any line.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:47 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Any reason why they're using EU packaging for the unboxing (no tm and warning in 26 languages!)?

And I found something interesting: the product codes for the Battle Masters and Apeface are in the same region as the Earthrise Wave 1 codes E71**, while the rest are past that with E82**. Pulled up maybe?

Thats what I thought when we learnt that Astrotrain was being repackaged in Earthrise wave 1 as well as Siege
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:29 pm

Sideswipe G-Win wrote:Is anyone else unhappy that the Cybertronian look was just dropped in favour of Earth modes

Not really because I feel those werent really cybertronian anyway. Like Hound, Megatron, Prowl and Sideswipe. They look the same as earth modes for vehicles not wanting to represent a specific brand (though Sideswipe isnt fooling anyone).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:10 pm

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Sideswipe G-Win wrote:Is anyone else unhappy that the Cybertronian look was just dropped in favour of Earth modes? I'm all G1 and I love the new reveals for Earthrise, but I'm really bummed out that most of the G1 Autobot roster won't be finished in the Cybetronian forms. Has there been any word on this from Hasbro? (I'm new, so please no flame-blasts for my not being up to date!) :)


Absolutely. Other than the SIEGE Tetrajets, the Original WFC line (parallel with the games) is exactly what this one should have been. Which only now serves to highlight the massive shortcomings of SIEGE in general.

They purposely skipped out the Autobots that had Real Cybertronian modes from the Sunbow pilot, so they could just flog "futuristic cars" instead. Pure laziness from the design team. The half hearted attempt at a Cybertronian Autobot line have been scrapped altogether now, in favour of more 80's visual relics.

The "Flier" Decepticons, Micro/Battlemasters and Weaponisers were the only really authentic part of this entire line. I'd include Jetfire and Omega Supreme in that but they aren't purposely SIEGE designs, in as much as original figure updates that could have existed in any line.


Futuristic cars are fine by me. I love the molds for Sideswipe, Prowl, Hound, and Ironhide (as well as the subsequent redecos), whether or not one considers them Cybertronian style (i.e., hovercars). I don’t think Mirage qualifies, but I was hoping for a complete set of the original Autobot team with updated/stylized/non-80s vehicle modes. Hasbro, I was prepared to spend a lot more. Not getting Sunstreaker in the same line as his brother(s) was especially disappointing.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:52 pm

I think Sideswipe/Red Alert were the least 'Cybertronian' and were going flat out into the realm of retro-futuristic concept sport car, meaning that mold will look just fine next to the Earthrise figures. Double so with Reprolabels. I have to assume that, due to his very iconic car design they had to take more liberties to get around licensing which is how we ended up with a Sideswipe who both look exactly the part and yet is clearly not a Countach. But it definitely has the same overall shape and vibe of a Lamborghini.

Edit: Oh, right. Forgot Hound. He's clearly also a retro futuristic Jeep...without looking like a Jeep due to car licenses. So he's another one that won't look out of place. Its futuristic-ish enough to gloss over as 'Cybertronian' if one wish or it can be glossed over as 'royalties-free retro futuristic Earth mode'.

Personally i'm not too mad, if disappointed overall. That said I still think Siege and Earthrise won't look visually jarring next to each others. Beside, most of my collection is TR, meaning I've got a LOT of futuristic vehicles in there to the point I'm not bothered by Siege designs.

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Image Comparing Siege Astrotrain to Titans Return Astrotrain

Postby william-james88 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:05 pm

A lot of people are thinking of replacing their Titans Return Astrotrain with Siege Astrotrain, since that one has alt modes closer to the cartoon. However, that simple swap may not be so simple, when thinking of how all three Decepticon triple changers, which we got in Titans return, match up in height. We got a good in hand look at Siege Astrotrain in the unboxing images we published earlier today, but now we have a comparison image of this Astrotrain next to Takara's version of Titans Return Astrotrain. It comes to us from a fan named Ryan over at Cybertron Philippines. Remember that Astrotrain can be given some platform shoes to stand slightly taller and reach 7 inches (photo shown below as well).

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:13 pm

Wow, that is quite the difference there. I'm still probably going to replace TR Astrotrain with Siege Astrotrain. The TR version is just a boring mold to me.
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Re: Image Comparing Siege Astrotrain to Titans Return Astrotrain

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william-james88 wrote:A lot of people are thinking of replacing their Titans Return Astrotrain with Siege Astrotrain, since that one has alt modes closer to the cartoon. However, that simple swap may not be so simple, when thinking of how all three Decepticon triple changers, which we got in Titans return, match up in height. We got a good in hand look at Siege Astrotrain in the unboxing images we published earlier today, but now we have a comparison image of this Astrotrain next to Takara's version of Titans Return Astrotrain. It comes to us from a fan named Ryan over at Cybertron Philippines. Remember that Astrotrain can be given some platform shoes to stand slightly taller and reach 7 inches (photo shown below as well).

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rainmaker » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:24 pm

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Well, uh, hm, I wanted Astrotrain but...I'm probably still going to get him but uh, yeah, hmmm...

This is the only siege leader I have concerns with the size

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