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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Reviews of all Wave 1 Netflix Transformers Series Exclusive Deluxe Toys

Postby aronjlove » Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:54 am

william-james88 wrote:People who attended Hasbro's event at the 2020 Toy Fair were given goody bags and in them was a deluxe from the upcoming exclusive Netflix Transformers series exclusive toyline. They are all Siege toys with different paint apps and each come with a cardboard piece to make Teletran One. Since they are all out in this way, it was not long for reviews to come in.

Below you will see a review of the entire first wave, done by RFC Reviews. These deluxes are Chromia, Scrapface, Sideswipe, Decepticon Disguise Mirage and Hound.



We also have a nice pictorial review of Chromia from Allspark with nice comparisons to the original. It is clear that this one looks better. However, it is still the Chromia toy so the improvement can only go so far.

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Does anyone know the reasoning behind the removable crotch plate on Chromia/Nightbird. The stupid thing literally explodes away when trying to just twist the waist much less transform. The PotP version of these ladies don't have that and I know it is a different figure but dear God, why?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Lore Keeper » Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:27 am

So, how does one get an invite to Toy Fair? In case I ever matter enough to make the cut. Gotta say, I'm totally jealous of everyone that got one of these goody bags. :-P
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:40 pm

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
blackeyedprime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Weird, for figures with more paint on them they forget to paint some side parts of sideswipe black - I'll wait for earthrise sideswipe anyhoos and hope the siege figures improved on in a few areas.

I'm not sure we'll get a Sideswipe in Earthrise, his Siege alt looks pretty earth mode already.


If it's on the packaging, they will come.

Jest aside, pretty sure we will otherwise sunstreaker will be bro less.
Wheeljack was on the SIEGE packaging, didn't get a figure til Earthrise. Also, bear in mind that the package art of pending characters doesn't reflect what the toys will look like - I'm pretty sure that Trailbreaker isn't going to be a reissue of his T30 toy, and that they're not going to stuff G1 Conehead toys into Earthrise packaging. :P

An Earthrise Sideswipe isn't needed, since this is all one trilogy and we already got a sufficiently Earthlike Sideswipe during SIEGE. Who is not exactly difficult to come by.
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Re: Reviews of all Wave 1 Netflix Transformers Series Exclusive Deluxe Toys

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:11 pm

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aronjlove wrote:Does anyone know the reasoning behind the removable crotch plate on Chromia/Nightbird. The stupid thing literally explodes away when trying to just twist the waist much less transform. The PotP version of these ladies don't have that and I know it is a different figure but dear God, why?


With the current trends, it may be to make it easier to switch out molds for retools. Chromia's light blue parts such as the fists, upper arms, upper legs and waist, and the ankle tilts can easily be reused (if fact most were from Moonracer), while the other colors including the crotch plate are mainly for looks.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:11 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Weird, for figures with more paint on them they forget to paint some side parts of sideswipe black - I'll wait for earthrise sideswipe anyhoos and hope the siege figures improved on in a few areas.

I'm not sure we'll get a Sideswipe in Earthrise, his Siege alt looks pretty earth mode already.


If it's on the packaging, they will come.

Jest aside, pretty sure we will otherwise sunstreaker will be bro less.
Wheeljack was on the SIEGE packaging, didn't get a figure til Earthrise. Also, bear in mind that the package art of pending characters doesn't reflect what the toys will look like - I'm pretty sure that Trailbreaker isn't going to be a reissue of his T30 toy, and that they're not going to stuff G1 Conehead toys into Earthrise packaging. :P

An Earthrise Sideswipe isn't needed, since this is all one trilogy and we already got a sufficiently Earthlike Sideswipe during SIEGE. Who is not exactly difficult to come by.


Earthrise sideswipe is as much needed as smokescreen. But failing that, if they do a repainted blue sideswipe for second series of netlix there can be a Mr Birthday to go with Mr Strong :)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:43 pm

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I too think Sideswipe is fine as is with his Siege release. That alt mode looks more like a near future version of the Countache than an alien spacecar from millions of years ago. Hound is another that I feel fits the "already terrestrial enough" Siege alt mode. He legitimately looks like an earth-based military jeep in Siege. Smokescreen, Prowl, Bluestreak, and Barricade, on the other hand, look more stylized Siege, and so are harder to pass off as real Earth vehicles, especially the ones with translucent wheels and Cybertronian lettering. Giving them a redo makes a lot more sense than Sideswipe and Red Alert.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:11 pm

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
Wolfman Jake wrote:I too think Sideswipe is fine as is with his Siege release. That alt mode looks more like a near future version of the Countache than an alien spacecar from millions of years ago. Hound is another that I feel fits the "already terrestrial enough" Siege alt mode. He legitimately looks like an earth-based military jeep in Siege. Smokescreen, Prowl, Bluestreak, and Barricade, on the other hand, look more stylized Siege, and so are harder to pass off as real Earth vehicles, especially the ones with translucent wheels and Cybertronian lettering. Giving them a redo makes a lot more sense than Sideswipe and Red Alert.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:23 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Weird, for figures with more paint on them they forget to paint some side parts of sideswipe black - I'll wait for earthrise sideswipe anyhoos and hope the siege figures improved on in a few areas.

I'm not sure we'll get a Sideswipe in Earthrise, his Siege alt looks pretty earth mode already.


If it's on the packaging, they will come.

Jest aside, pretty sure we will otherwise sunstreaker will be bro less.


My major concern is having two bros whose alt modes look odd together. Whether one feels Sideswipe’s Siege vehicle was otherworldly or future Earth, neither interpretation will work with an 80s-style Countach look.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:42 pm

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
emlit wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Weird, for figures with more paint on them they forget to paint some side parts of sideswipe black - I'll wait for earthrise sideswipe anyhoos and hope the siege figures improved on in a few areas.

I'm not sure we'll get a Sideswipe in Earthrise, his Siege alt looks pretty earth mode already.


If it's on the packaging, they will come.

Jest aside, pretty sure we will otherwise sunstreaker will be bro less.


My major concern is having two bros whose alt modes look odd together. Whether one feels Sideswipe’s Siege vehicle was otherworldly or future Earth, neither interpretation will work with an 80s-style Countach look.
Except that it already looks like an '80s-style Countach, just without a spoiler. Did you not see the comparison pic?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:43 pm

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We won't know till we see Sunstreaker. Best bet would be see how Sideswipe looks next to Wheeljack. I still think that those wishing for an Earthrise Sideswipe are just getting their hopes up over nothing. Better to downplay expectations then getting your hopes dashed against the rocks of reality.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:51 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
emlit wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Weird, for figures with more paint on them they forget to paint some side parts of sideswipe black - I'll wait for earthrise sideswipe anyhoos and hope the siege figures improved on in a few areas.

I'm not sure we'll get a Sideswipe in Earthrise, his Siege alt looks pretty earth mode already.


If it's on the packaging, they will come.

Jest aside, pretty sure we will otherwise sunstreaker will be bro less.


My major concern is having two bros whose alt modes look odd together. Whether one feels Sideswipe’s Siege vehicle was otherworldly or future Earth, neither interpretation will work with an 80s-style Countach look.
Except that it already looks like an '80s-style Countach, just without a spoiler. Did you not see the comparison pic?


Yes. They look nothing alike. Seige Sideswipe might pass for a modern super car, but not a Countach. The Countach was a unique and iconic car. Very little looks like it, or cars styled like it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:21 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
emlit wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Weird, for figures with more paint on them they forget to paint some side parts of sideswipe black - I'll wait for earthrise sideswipe anyhoos and hope the siege figures improved on in a few areas.

I'm not sure we'll get a Sideswipe in Earthrise, his Siege alt looks pretty earth mode already.


If it's on the packaging, they will come.

Jest aside, pretty sure we will otherwise sunstreaker will be bro less.


My major concern is having two bros whose alt modes look odd together. Whether one feels Sideswipe’s Siege vehicle was otherworldly or future Earth, neither interpretation will work with an 80s-style Countach look.
Except that it already looks like an '80s-style Countach, just without a spoiler. Did you not see the comparison pic?


I did, although it wasn’t necessary. I own both. I just happen to not share that sentiment. There are absolute intentional design cues from the Countach for Siege Sideswipe, but it is most assuredly not to be confused with a vehicle from the 80s.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:41 pm

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
You say that, and yet...
It has a silhouette near identical to an '80s Lamborghini Countach including the windshield, it has rear intake vents in the same places as an '80s Lamborghini Countach (albeit deviant in their specific design so lawyers don't make a fuss), it has a front end very much like that of an '80s Lamborghini Countach including the headlights...
The wheels aren't typical Lamborghini Countach wheels, but they look very much like Earth car wheels. AND an awful lot like the wheel modeled by the MP Collector's Coin:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:50 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:You say that, and yet...
It has a silhouette near identical to an '80s Lamborghini Countach including the windshield, it has rear intake vents in the same places as an '80s Lamborghini Countach (albeit deviant in their specific design so lawyers don't make a fuss), it has a front end very much like that of an '80s Lamborghini Countach including the headlights...
The wheels aren't typical Lamborghini Countach wheels, but they look very much like Earth car wheels. AND an awful lot like the wheel modeled by the MP Collector's Coin:
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Thank you for taking the time to point out the design cues I alluded to.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:56 pm

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
Those drive it firmly into "Earth car wearing alien sunshades under the windshield" for me. The wheels are the clincher.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:38 am

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Siege Sideswipe's alt mode doesn't look like the original vehicle.

Siege Sideswipe is more "round" then "rectangle", looks like a puff fish in comparison.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:19 am

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I'd still say chances are a Earthrise Sideswipe is quite low, also have we considered the possibility that Siege Sideswipe is the closest hasbro can get to the Countach without running into licencing issues?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby gothsaurus » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:30 am

Seeing the redux Datsun brothers, I FULLY expect an Earthrise Sideswipe. >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:00 am

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The Sideswipe seen on the Earthrise packaging is Siege Sideswipe:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:45 am

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Just as Hound and Shockwave are the Siege versions.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:53 pm

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I hope they redo at least Prowl in Earth mode off of Smokescreen. Hell, I like the more-accurate gun Smokescreen comes with enough to want the other Datsun brothers remade in some way, be it exclusive or Amazon set.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:50 pm

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Does Chromia come with the grenades?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:00 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does Chromia come with the grenades?


Yes, they are now cast in black plastic and harder to see in some pictures, especially against a black background, but they are indeed still there.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:07 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does Chromia come with the grenades?


Yes, they are now cast in black plastic and harder to see in some pictures, especially against a black background, but they are indeed still there.


The black plastic will be a definite improvement for some of the alternate uses of those grenades...

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