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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:36 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote: How pissed would you be if you found out this Chromia has a combiner peg?


Actually I'd be ecstatic. I didn't purchase the previous version for that very reason, and I need one more Autobot to complete the Inferno combiner.... But we know it doesn't , as stated so, Meh....

I'm only interested in the Battle Masters from Hotlink, Megatron, and Ultra Magnus (not the toys themselves), haven't seen any sold separately on eBay yet, but if I find the toys in stores first, I'll just purchase them, and sell the toys separately.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Lore Keeper » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:03 pm

o.supreme wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote: How pissed would you be if you found out this Chromia has a combiner peg?


Actually I'd be ecstatic. I didn't purchase the previous version for that very reason, and I need one more Autobot to complete the Inferno combiner.... But we know it doesn't , as stated so, Meh....

I'm only interested in the Battle Masters from Hotlink, Megatron, and Ultra Magnus (not the toys themselves), haven't seen any sold separately on eBay yet, but if I find the toys in stores first, I'll just purchase them, and sell the toys separately.

You don't want Hotlink? But he's soooo pretty!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:52 pm

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I think Hotlink would look better if purple had been his base plastic color. I want a Hotlink in my collection, but I might just get and repaint a Starscream instead of getting the official Hotlink toy, because of how it was executed. :BANG_HEAD:

Regarding Chromia not having a combiner peg... She doesn't have one for the same reason that SIEGE toys larger than Battle Masters don't have ball joints except in the neck: The C.O.M.B.A.T. system. The central peghole for a combiner appendage wouldn't have played nice with the pegholes in both feet + ankle rockers required for the C.O.M.B.A.T. gimmick. Without that central peghole, she wouldn't be able to function as a limb, and so a combiner peg would be pointless.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:59 pm

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Lore Keeper wrote:You don't want Hotlink? But he's soooo pretty!


For a seeker, he does look cool, but I don't collect them.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:10 am

For anyone still looking for Ratbat and Rumble, Entertainment Earth says they are restocking the wave 5 micromasters soon. You would have to buy them with Direct Hit and Power Punch, but at least both are at retail price.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:44 am

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:For anyone still looking for Ratbat and Rumble, Entertainment Earth says they are restocking the wave 5 micromasters soon. You would have to buy them with Direct Hit and Power Punch, but at least both are at retail price.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:42 am

Glad I could help Cobs!

Meanwhile on the pool table...

Crosshairs: So Trenchfoot, um, sorry pal, but this means you'll have to find another partner.

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Sad Trenchfoot: Um hey guys, is it okay if I join back up with your crew again? I really suck at aiming myself.
Grand Slam: *shrugs*
G2 Sideswipe: Sure, Hasbro didn't give me my rifle, I'm sure you and I will get along fine.

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Not Lionizer Anymore: Um hey fellas, any chance you could use a sword-cat? I also seem to need a new name, any thoughts?
G2 Sideswipe: Sure, I'm all for more weapons. Welcome aboard, I shall call you Frostbiter.

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And there resolves the partnering and duplicate names/bots from buying the Netflix Megatron set that I was originally going to pass on, but my lack of impulse control bought anyway yesterday when I saw them in hand.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:51 am

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Trenchfoot is the reason I'm not bothered to get Netflix Megatron, since the only real reason I would want that set is the battlemasters.

I gave one of my six Smashdown to G2 Sideswipe, and it works out really well! regular Swipe has Lionizer
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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Ratbat and Rumble Seeing Restock at Entertainment Earth

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:00 am

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Thanks to a heads up from Seibertronian TF-fan kev777, we have news that the hard to find final wave of War for Cybertron Siege Micromasters will be seeing a restock at Entertainment Earth for retail price!

The final wave of the Siege Micromasters proved to be a hard to find wave, as there were very few sightings and even fewer online listings. This wave consists of the Battle Squad (Direct-hit and Power Punch) and the highly sought after Soundwave Spy Patrol 2 (Ratbat and Rumble). The listing on Entertainment Earth is for both sets, and is listed as $19.99, which is retail price for the wave. You will need to pay shipping, as Entertainment Earth shipping is only free on in-stock orders over $79, but it is far better than paying ebay prices for these guys.

Check out the listing, and let us know if you pre-order these guys and finally secure them below!

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:40 am

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Is there any noticeable difference between Trenchfoot and Pinpointer?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:47 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Is there any noticeable difference between Trenchfoot and Pinpointer?
Trenchfoot:
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Pinpointer (CG render):
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:56 am

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So really only the 5mm peg location and the 1 vs 2 barrels for the gun
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Omegatron. » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:41 am

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Plus the head, chest, arms, and legs. Actually, the only thing they share is the colour scheme (and even then Trenchfoot has the white on his torso and yellow on his visor).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:53 am

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Compared to Trenchfoot, Siege Pinpointer is closer to the G1 version with the rounded shoulders, head and colors, despite being a redeco of Firedrive:

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Although in the Headmasters Anime, he did have a yellow visor, like Trenchmouth. But the added white ties the latter specifically to Covert Clone (aka G2) Sideswipe.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:21 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So really only the 5mm peg location and the 1 vs 2 barrels for the gun
And the fact that they're two entirely different molds.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:54 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So really only the 5mm peg location and the 1 vs 2 barrels for the gun
And the fact that they're two entirely different molds.

But in terms of color placement and significant features. I honestly don't pay attention to the differences between the gun dudes except for transformation, and by extent of that the peg location, and the number of barrels.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:59 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So really only the 5mm peg location and the 1 vs 2 barrels for the gun
And the fact that they're two entirely different molds.

But in terms of color placement and significant features. I honestly don't pay attention to the differences between the gun dudes except for transformation, and by extent of that the peg location, and the number of barrels.


There's a difference in transformation as well: Trenchfoot faces down in gun mode, Pinpoint faces up ;)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:28 pm

Motto: "Why are Beast Hunters Ultimate/Dragon Attack Optimus' sword and shield so hard to find?"
So, the Firedrive mold is somewhat closer detail-wise.. But it would still need detail kitbashing to properly match, and of course the transformation would need to be reworked (The SIEGE Battlmasters and the Legends Targetmasters they're poor man's versions of ALL transform wrong :BANG_HEAD: :-x ).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:58 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:So, the Firedrive mold is somewhat closer detail-wise.. But it would still need detail kitbashing to properly match, and of course the transformation would need to be reworked (The SIEGE Battlmasters and the Legends Targetmasters they're poor man's versions of ALL transform wrong :BANG_HEAD: :-x ).


With some I don't really see how it can be done without them easily breaking, losing accessories, or have the barrels not interfere.

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The amount of styles may have played in Hasbro just saying "eh":

#1: Blowpipe, Caliburst
#2: Pinpointer, Recoil
#3: the rest :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:10 pm

Motto: "Why are Beast Hunters Ultimate/Dragon Attack Optimus' sword and shield so hard to find?"
Look at Universe Nightstick and MP Firebolt, they show ways it can be done. And I know for a fact SIEGE Firebolt could have been done better; I did a very simple kitbash to that end.

Also, "Without losing accessories" isn't a valid argument here because one of the big factors in the SIEGE Battle Masters' divergence was having the ability to pop the barrels off and stick them to the Battle Master's arm. Which to me makes it extra-annoying that they messed up Blowpipe by referencing the Legends version, since his original design partsformed already and would only have needed minor changes :-x .
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:54 pm

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Today I finally found the Netflix deluxes at my store. I picked up each one and looked at them carefully, and after close in-hand inspection, I must say that I am underwhelmed. This is clearly just a cashgrab by Hasbro to get fans to double- or even triple-dip on some molds. The only one I even considered getting was Scrapface, because combining him with 2 Refraktors would liven up an otherwise somewhat bland-looking camera mode. But Chromia, Mirage, Hound and Sideswipe? Like it's been said, they look like someone played with them in the mud and stuck them back in the box. So I left them on the shelf. I might get Scrapface, because I actually like the colors as well, so even if I don't combine him with Refraktors, he would look good on the shelf. The others? Pass. As usual, if any of you have a hard time finding them, I'd be happy to pick any of them up for you at cost plus shipping.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:23 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:But Chromia, Mirage, Hound and Sideswipe? Like it's been said, they look like someone played with them in the mud and stuck them back in the box.


Add Ultra Magnus to this. That's my problem with them too. Repaint all you want but here, it's lazy.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:29 am

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Remember though that the line is going to be primarily aimed at those getting into the show, be that kids or new adult collectors who want ease getting things in store rather then back tracking online. I assume the new paint jobs will reflect their look in the show. Hasbro probably looked at things and assumed there would be no Siege stock left on shelves and felt that just re-releasing the old figures might not have played too well with continuing fans. So we got these releases.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:41 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:But Chromia, Mirage, Hound and Sideswipe? Like it's been said, they look like someone played with them in the mud and stuck them back in the box.


Add Ultra Magnus to this. That's my problem with them too. Repaint all you want but here, it's lazy.


These figures aren't for us not to mention that they are better painted then the Siege ones even if they have more "battle damage" there was still more effort put into them.

While the paintjobs being good is subjective, I would absolutely not call the Netflix figures Lazy, these are the characters in the show they will not be brand new characters.

Decepticon Mirage and Scrapface exist probably due to reasons in the show.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:18 am

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The "Not for us" argument is a bit moot considering how much more expensive those Netflixformers are compared to normal releases. Like for Megatron, the normal Voyager is 40$can but the Netflix edition is 60$can. A targetmaster is normally 8$can. So that's 12$can in extra charge.

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #261 - Ratchets, Tigers and Planes
Twincast / Podcast #261:
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