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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby ExciKaiser » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:55 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:It would never have been this popular and long-lived if they had stayed with the original design vision from MP-1 through 8 or 9.


But is it ?
When MP1 was released, everybody was like "get it, period".

Everybody back in time got it, it was like mandatory for all TF fans. You like TFs ? then you have MP1 in your collection.

But now ? we can see debates like this one on each release. Even for Optimus, we're far from the old consensus.

I'm curious to see sales numbers, but I'm not sure we have them. But what I know is there's regularly Sales on bbts for the recents MPs.
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Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:01 am

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Sales must be good otherwise they wouldn't have kept on doing them. Though maybe we should be asking what the local fans think of this. Hasbro is very picky to what mps it releases in the west.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:24 pm

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ExciKaiser wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:It would never have been this popular and long-lived if they had stayed with the original design vision from MP-1 through 8 or 9.


But is it ?
When MP1 was released, everybody was like "get it, period".

Everybody back in time got it, it was like mandatory for all TF fans. You like TFs ? then you have MP1 in your collection.

But now ? we can see debates like this one on each release. Even for Optimus, we're far from the old consensus.

I'm curious to see sales numbers, but I'm not sure we have them. But what I know is there's regularly Sales on bbts for the recents MPs.


You have to remember too that the original Masterpiece figures 1 through 9 were all AAA characters, or repaints of AAA characters that were easy enough to do. The likes of Optimus Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Grimlock, and Rodimus Prime are EASY sells to fans casual and dedicated alike. Imagine the lukewarm reception something like an old MP styled Sideswipe with more a more G1 toy faithful transformation and robot mode appearance would have received.
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Postby Va'al » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:50 am

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Courtesy of online resource Dengeki Hobby, we have some additional prototype images for the Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime / Convoy 3.0 - yet unnumbered and unpriced - showing off both the robot and truck mode, with trailer, which are closer in rendition to the cartoon model used in the original Transformers animated series.

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Characters that are keenly developing for the release in 2019, you know! First animation "Fight! Super robot living body Transformers "It is the first general commander convoy of Cybertron. Convoy which has been commercialized twice in the past as "MP-1 Convoy" and "MP-10 Convoy", but in "version 3" this time, the tire of the leg at robot mode In particular, noteworthy is the fact that the anime's reproducibility has increased to the limit by the startling deformation mechanism in which no common parts are found in the vehicle mode and the robot mode in the case of the vehicle mode).
In addition, it is said that a voice gimmick containing many voices of Teruaki Genda who was in charge of the voice of the first convoy is included. I am looking forward to it, but I will inform you about detailed product specifications with hobby web, so please look forward to it !!




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Target age 15 years and older
Publisher: Takara Tomy

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby frogbat » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:01 am

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I was annoyed at the release of mp10 as I was perfectly happy with mp1 and found some design choices on mp10 less to my liking. I eventually caved in and got mp10 and was pretty happy with him. Never had the trailer + the scaling with the new releases convinced my little brain it was worth the expenditure.

Now this... again it's a bit annoying considering the number of characters that would benefit more from Takara's attention like the remnants of the ark crew (+ I'm sure they can make a better seeker). He does look awesome and they finally seem to have nailed his legs. Will I get him? eventually.. but won't be a priority for sure.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:01 am

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Looks like they managed to tuck away the whole truck cab in his torso in robot mode, that’s a fake chest Prime has got right there.

I think these new super-cartoon-accurate MPs are cool, but that just feels like a cheap gimmick, juuuuust a little.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Apocdave » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:33 am

Sadly this is a pass for me since I own 4 versions of mp-10 not that this isn't nice but the only real upgrade here is the rifle an maybe the lower legs Since I bought all the different color variations of the mp-01 rifle off ebay which is still the best version of the gun I think I'm good.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Hydrargyrus » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:18 am

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I’ve been thinking this for a while...

I feel like Animation-accuracy might be a much bigger deal in Japan.
And that there really isn’t anywhere else to produce toys that are basically the cartoon jumping out of the screen, hence the new Masterpiece style (with G1, Beast Wars, and the Movies all very screen-accurate)

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby hausjam » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:40 am

Definitely getting him. But please Takara, please offer him without the trailer. While I can never have too many Optimus robots, I already have two trailers and don't want another. If you only sell him with the trailer, I will grudgingly opt for the knockoff.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby hausjam » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:44 am

Unless, (I know this won't happen, I am not delusional) instead of the trailer transforming into the traditional battle/repair station (which never happened in the cartoon anyway) have it transform into something else. Maybe an oversized roller? Or a backpack? Give us something different and clever for the trailer.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:26 am

He had it in the cartoon for sure, just looked different each time.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:09 pm

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Stormshot_Prime wrote:I think these new super-cartoon-accurate MPs are cool, but that just feels like a cheap gimmick, juuuuust a little.


But the transformations in the cartoon were cheap looking as hell with very little actual thought of where pieces actually go and how they should accurately look in each form. I guess sometimes the figure has to cheat to achieve the full toon look in the cases where actual real plastic and metals cannot contort. :P
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:29 pm

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These are my feelings right now about Masterpiece Optimus Prime 3.0. It looks great in robot mode (and truck mode too). I love how close Takara can get to screen accuracy with their latest engineering tricks. I will almost certainly be getting this next year, especially if Takara nails the colors. However, I won't be selling off my MP-10 Optimus Prime. It's also fantastic in its own way and achieves a great looking robot mode with much less "cheating," as some would say. There is room in my heart (and my collection) for both interpretations of the Autobot's most famous leader. Version 3.0 will probably be in the main Masterpiece display along with the rest of the cast, but MP-10 will likely get his own display elsewhere in my home.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby TerranPrime » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:32 pm

I'm not happy about his face. It does not look cartoon accurate and it's just too boxy. The sides of his helmet are WAY too big compared to his mask! Hopefully it comes with an alternate head that looks nicer than this one.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Prime Target » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:57 pm

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Sorry Takara but no dice :( I'll stick with MP-10 and all it's repaints thanks. Make a Nemesis Prime repaint with a cool looking trailer then we'll talk.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:51 pm

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TerranPrime wrote:I'm not happy about his face. It does not look cartoon accurate and it's just too boxy. The sides of his helmet are WAY too big compared to his mask! Hopefully it comes with an alternate head that looks nicer than this one.

G1 cartoon face:
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MP Optimus 3.0 face:
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There were multiple versions (animator/animation companies that rendered Optimus)

this for instance (looks like Masami Obari was the artist here). Lot's o' styles but this one (version 3.0 ?) follows the most common by (?) either by Toei, Akom or FilToons/FilAnimation/ToonCity
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:58 pm

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TerranPrime wrote:I'm not happy about his face. It does not look cartoon accurate and it's just too boxy. The sides of his helmet are WAY too big compared to his mask! Hopefully it comes with an alternate head that looks nicer than this one.

G1 cartoon face:
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MP Optimus 3.0 face:
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"Cartoon accuracy" is dependent on whichever source they decide to go with. Just because it doesn't match one specific screen cap you find doesn't mean it isn't accurate to a bunch of other ways it might be drawn in other episodes (or even the same episode).

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In that last one the two do even look alike in the same frame!

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby bigcee66 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:59 pm

TerranPrime wrote:I'm not happy about his face. It does not look cartoon accurate and it's just too boxy. The sides of his helmet are WAY too big compared to his mask! Hopefully it comes with an alternate head that looks nicer than this one.

G1 cartoon face:
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Ugh you do know he had various faces right? Heck it looks like his 1986 movie face. And to add that pic you posted isn’t exactly a Face ID want tbqh. Poorly drawn to say the least.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Prime Target » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:19 pm

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Sorry Takara but no dice :( I'll stick with MP-10 and all it's repaints thanks. Make a Nemesis Prime repaint with a cool looking trailer then we'll talk.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby RotorstormNZ » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:11 am

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Prime Target wrote:Make a Nemesis Prime repaint with a cool looking trailer then we'll talk.

Bring this out as G2 with the “refrigeration unit”/voicebox, biga55 cannons and the OPTIMUS trailer and I am SO in!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:32 am

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fenrir72 wrote:
TerranPrime wrote:I'm not happy about his face. It does not look cartoon accurate and it's just too boxy. The sides of his helmet are WAY too big compared to his mask! Hopefully it comes with an alternate head that looks nicer than this one.

G1 cartoon face:
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MP Optimus 3.0 face:
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There were multiple versions (animator/animation companies that rendered Optimus)

this for instance (looks like Masami Obari was the artist here). Lot's o' styles but this one (version 3.0 ?) follows the most common by (?) either by Toei, Akom or FilToons/FilAnimation/ToonCity

That prime there looks amazingly like the revoltech optimus that was out years ago.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:36 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
TerranPrime wrote:I'm not happy about his face. It does not look cartoon accurate and it's just too boxy. The sides of his helmet are WAY too big compared to his mask! Hopefully it comes with an alternate head that looks nicer than this one.

G1 cartoon face:
Image

MP Optimus 3.0 face:
Image


There were multiple versions (animator/animation companies that rendered Optimus)

this for instance (looks like Masami Obari was the artist here). Lot's o' styles but this one (version 3.0 ?) follows the most common by (?) either by Toei, Akom or FilToons/FilAnimation/ToonCity

That prime there looks amazingly like the revoltech optimus that was out years ago.


Yup! Pat Lee shamelessly "adapted" the style of either Masami Obari's or it could have been Satoshi Urushihara's art style.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-?? Optimus Prime 3.0 Discussion Thread

Postby Siger » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:40 am

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