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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

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ZeroWolf wrote:Stupid how much extra you have to pay just to get it sent north


Yup. It's 30$US minimum in shipping fees just for a pack of bubble gum. Plus they charge the Canadian taxes on top. That's why unless it's for an insane exclusive like the HASLAB Unicron, it's worthless for a Canadian to order anything from Pulse.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby carytheone » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:58 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Stupid how much extra you have to pay just to get it sent north
Yup. It's 30$US minimum in shipping fees just for a pack of bubble gum. Plus they charge the Canadian taxes on top. That's why unless it's for an insane exclusive like the HASLAB Unicron, it's worthless for a Canadian to order anything from Pulse.
It's just plain ass expensive to ship to Canada. I've shipped very recently using both the USPS and FedEx and it hurt my butt both times (fortunately the latter was paid by my employer). The worst part is the damn customs form, so confusing.

My point? It's not the seller's fault.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:36 pm

So I went Hasbro Pulse for all my Seacons. Turtler and Gulf both arrived with the extra sleeve, but Kraken just arrived today without the sleeve. Lobclaw arrives tomorrow, so I'll see if he is also sleeveless. Kind of weird.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Emerje » Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:57 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:So I went Hasbro Pulse for all my Seacons. Turtler and Gulf both arrived with the extra sleeve, but Kraken just arrived today without the sleeve. Lobclaw arrives tomorrow, so I'll see if he is also sleeveless. Kind of weird.

That is weird, my Kraken has the sleeve. In fact the sleeve made me realize just how random Hasbro's numbering system is for these. I wasn't really paying attention and thought they were shipping in order, but then I saw the big 02 on the box and thought they sent the wrong figure. When I saw it really was Kraken in the box I thought they put the wrong box on him, but no, I checked Gulf and he was 04. So really Hasbro just screwed up the number order since they're in the same release order as Takara Tomy.

TT-GS01 Star Convoy (release 1)
TT-GS02 Kraken (release 3)
TT-GS03 Turtler (release 2)
TT-GS04 Gulf (release 2)
TT-GS06 Lobclaw (release 3)
TT-GS07 Overbite (release 4)
TT-GS08 Tentakill (release 4)
TT-GS09 Super Megatron (release 5)

Now, did you notice there's no 05? That's been known for a while and there was a theory that the Super Megatron was meant to be 05 because he was teased at the same time as Turtler and Hasbro had already reserved that number. But now I can see that wasn't the case at all because I happened to catch this on the order receipt that came with Kraken.

20200409_163936.jpg


Yep, Kraken was supposed to be 05 and it makes ALL the sense in the world. So how the heck did he end up out of order as 02? And was Super Megatron supposed to be 02 because that makes sense as well instead of thinking he'd be plopped in between Seacon releases? And if not Super Megatron then who did they think was going to be 02 originally? If they already printed the boxes and didn't want to waste them (character names aren't on the boxes, just their ID numbers) then it's a Deluxe box so it's a bit of a mystery.

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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby o.supreme » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:21 pm

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Super Megatron being planned as 02 for TT makes sense, as a follow up to Star Convoy. But I'm pretty sure officially he will be the missing 05 when he does come out. It is odd in hindsight, but such is life.

Other than the tease of Armada Prime, I cant wait to see any future reveals from the TT portion of the selects line.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:05 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Super Megatron being planned as 02 for TT makes sense, as a follow up to Star Convoy. But I'm pretty sure officially he will be the missing 05 when he does come out. It is odd in hindsight, but such is life.

Other than the tease of Armada Prime, I cant wait to see any future reveals from the TT portion of the selects line.

Only problem is... He's already had his number listed. He's TT-GS09. We're still missing 05.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Skritz » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:27 pm

You know, with the Dai Atlas gang, Star Convoy and now Super Megatron in Legends/SELECTS I wonder if we will see some reimagined Sky Garry and Grandus? Yeah I know Grandus is technically akin to a Titan but I could see him redone as a non base-former.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:31 pm

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Funnily enough, it's just been pointed out in the Earthrise thread by Emerej that sky garry and grandus are actually smaller then Star Convoy in the pictures of Return of Convoy that we have and that Star Convoy hauled Grandus around in vehicle mode. So titan class may have been the wrong scale for him in the first place...
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Skritz » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:35 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Funnily enough, it's just been pointed out in the Earthrise thread by Emerej that sky garry and grandus are actually smaller then Star Convoy in the pictures of Return of Convoy that we have and that Star Convoy hauled Grandus around in vehicle mode. So titan class may have been the wrong scale for him in the first place...


Tbh G1 toys are the last thing I turn to for scale. You know, TR Sentinel Prime into Sky Garry and a massive retool of Alpha Trion/Broadside into Sky Garry could work. Interestingly both figures might have the space (with retooling) to fit in a proper head and ditch the headmaster gimmick.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:40 pm

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I could see Astrotrain/Sentinel working with the level of retooling that Takara unleashed on Galvatron :-?
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:41 pm

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Skritz wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Funnily enough, it's just been pointed out in the Earthrise thread by Emerej that sky garry and grandus are actually smaller then Star Convoy in the pictures of Return of Convoy that we have and that Star Convoy hauled Grandus around in vehicle mode. So titan class may have been the wrong scale for him in the first place...


Tbh G1 toys are the last thing I turn to for scale. You know, TR Sentinel Prime into Sky Garry and a massive retool of Alpha Trion/Broadside into Sky Garry could work. Interestingly both figures might have the space (with retooling) to fit in a proper head and ditch the headmaster gimmick.

Emerje wasn't just talking about toys though:
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So Grandus and Sky Garry definitely could be Voyager or Leader-sized figures. Grandus would probably still have to be a new mold given his bulk, but I could definitely see a Sky Garry from an existing mold. The choices you mention seem like they could work pretty well.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Emerje » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:49 pm

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Skritz wrote:Tbh G1 toys are the last thing I turn to for scale.

It wasn't just the toys.

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He's no titan.

BTW, the Selects comics did give Star Convoy a base mode.

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I've been thinking that the TR Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime mold could probably form a decent base for Sky Garry as well. Probably easier than Broadside and far easier than Alpha Trion.

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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:09 pm

Emerje wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So I went Hasbro Pulse for all my Seacons. Turtler and Gulf both arrived with the extra sleeve, but Kraken just arrived today without the sleeve. Lobclaw arrives tomorrow, so I'll see if he is also sleeveless. Kind of weird.

That is weird, my Kraken has the sleeve.


Yeah, turns out I'm an idiot. I forgot the sleeve was between 2 boxes and not the outer layer. Just opened him up and did a facepalm.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:17 pm

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Regarding Sky Garry I can see the argument for either mold. Robit mode, I think Broadside works pretty well, but vehicle mode, Sentinel/Astrotrain works better. I think maybe Astrotrain would be the easiest starting point with retooling being done to the wings, legs, and feet to make it a closer likeness.

And regarding Grandus, I had a weird thought, but what if they retooled Powermaster Prime/Ginrai? It'd be a bit of a tougher level of retool, probably like Hun-Grr to Turtler, but I think it could work on some level
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

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I'm really surprised they haven't gotten them, or Burning convoy yet. Those were out to people last week
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby negativedan » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:40 pm

Emerje wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So I went Hasbro Pulse for all my Seacons. Turtler and Gulf both arrived with the extra sleeve, but Kraken just arrived today without the sleeve. Lobclaw arrives tomorrow, so I'll see if he is also sleeveless. Kind of weird.

That is weird, my Kraken has the sleeve. In fact the sleeve made me realize just how random Hasbro's numbering system is for these. I wasn't really paying attention and thought they were shipping in order, but then I saw the big 02 on the box and thought they sent the wrong figure. When I saw it really was Kraken in the box I thought they put the wrong box on him, but no, I checked Gulf and he was 04. So really Hasbro just screwed up the number order since they're in the same release order as Takara Tomy.

TT-GS01 Star Convoy (release 1)
TT-GS02 Kraken (release 3)
TT-GS03 Turtler (release 2)
TT-GS04 Gulf (release 2)
TT-GS06 Lobclaw (release 3)
TT-GS07 Overbite (release 4)
TT-GS08 Tentakill (release 4)
TT-GS09 Super Megatron (release 5)

Now, did you notice there's no 05? That's been known for a while and there was a theory that the Super Megatron was meant to be 05 because he was teased at the same time as Turtler and Hasbro had already reserved that number. But now I can see that wasn't the case at all because I happened to catch this on the order receipt that came with Kraken.

20200409_163936.jpg


Yep, Kraken was supposed to be 05 and it makes ALL the sense in the world. So how the heck did he end up out of order as 02? And was Super Megatron supposed to be 02 because that makes sense as well instead of thinking he'd be plopped in between Seacon releases? And if not Super Megatron then who did they think was going to be 02 originally? If they already printed the boxes and didn't want to waste them (character names aren't on the boxes, just their ID numbers) then it's a Deluxe box so it's a bit of a mystery.

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I've been curious about the missing number #5 for awhile and I thought you might have solved it until I took a look at my packing slip for Turtler and Gulf which read 'TRA TT GS ARSENAL' and 'TRA TT GS MANCHESTER' so I'm not sure if the 5 on yours is actually related to the missing number or just maybe coincidental randomness. I previously thought nemesis prime was gonna be in that slot but his number is SG-6 which I think just relates to the normal siege line in Japan (which also means there are technically two different SG-6s in their line). I also think Megatron will stay in the 9 spot so #5 might still be up in the or just skipped altogether for whatever reason. Perhaps armada prime
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:42 pm

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Regarding Grandus, he is a BIG dude in the fiction, but not GIGANTIC like a Titan. I feel like Voyager would be too small for him, while Titan is way too big. But, looking over all of his fictional appearances, a Commander class toy similar to Jetfire's height would probably be the best size fit for him.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:40 pm

If we're talking about sizes and scale, titan class was also way too large for Devestator and Omega Supreme. It's fine, though. For some characters I think you can make them too big if fans think it fits or if the toy itself is just *that* good.

TBH, I think Metrotitan would be good for a Titan Selects. He's the sort of guy only a few collectors would want and not a guy I think we'll see at retail.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:44 pm

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're talking about sizes and scale, titan class was also way too large for Devestator and Omega Supreme. It's fine, though. For some characters I think you can make them too big if fans think it fits or if the toy itself is just *that* good.
For Devastator, he's more MP scaled than CHUG scaled, so he's kind of an exception from how big he ought to be in a CHUG scale.

For Omega, he was definitely bigger than Skyfire, but also Combiner-sized. But, Commander class Jetfire is already Combiner-sized, so scaling Omega to Titan class Devastator was the only sensible option for him.
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Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:16 am

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I'm really surprised they haven't gotten them, or Burning convoy yet. Those were out to people last week


I think TF Source gets their figures direct from Japan so the delay might have to do with what's going on in the world.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:26 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think TF Source gets their figures direct from Japan so the delay might have to do with what's going on in the world.


Speaking of which, my last Mandarake box out of four bounced back to Japan. Now U have to pay 1300 yen more to get it back via EMS.

Also, my Age 3 and Up order was shipped on Monday but since then, it still haven't left it's hometown way back in British Columbia.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:39 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:If we're talking about sizes and scale, titan class was also way too large for Devestator and Omega Supreme. It's fine, though. For some characters I think you can make them too big if fans think it fits or if the toy itself is just *that* good.
For Devastator, he's more MP scaled than CHUG scaled, so he's kind of an exception from how big he ought to be in a CHUG scale.

For Omega, he was definitely bigger than Skyfire, but also Combiner-sized. But, Commander class Jetfire is already Combiner-sized, so scaling Omega to Titan class Devastator was the only sensible option for him.

Devestator isn't MP sized; he'd have to be bigger. IMO, I think that the older YotS Omega is best when it comes to scaling with t30 Jetfire also scaling better. Devestator just loses in this equation. But they made him the odd one out.

You could go the OS KO route and just have all the other combiners be at titan class with Devestator, though, which would probably be more accurate. I don't have those, however. Can't say for sure.

I'm just saying that G1 scale is a real losing game. Especially between combiners and citybots. So if they decide to do a guy like Grandius ... they may as well make him a titan too. Scale is all bonkers anyway. We can only do our best with what our budget allows and with what was put out.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:I'm just saying that G1 scale is a real losing game. Especially between combiners and citybots. So if they decide to do a guy like Grandius ... they may as well make him a titan too. Scale is all bonkers anyway. We can only do our best with what our budget allows and with what was put out.


I don't agree with that. HasTaks commitment to scale has reinvigorated my collecting. Now, if you mean it's a losing game because it's not perfect, well...it's really hard for it to be perfect.
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