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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 08, 2019 12:14 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The Cat Bots and Spider Bots are Mold Variants.


So what, isn't this line about the show models? And Blackarachnia and tarantulus do not share show models



:???: They do, though. BA's torso is more tapered, but otherwise the same.


That is not correct. I don't mind the discussion but if you are going to correct me, please come with facts rather than simply what you think/remember. The torso is far from the only difference. There are enough differences to call them different show models in my opinion.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed May 08, 2019 12:15 pm

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Tarantulas' model chest was halved vertically at the midpoint, this forms Blackarachnia's shoulder pads and breasts. The torso is tapered, as mentioned, and the hips too. To give BA Feminine "curves". Otherwise the limbs are structurally and visually identical, aside from colouration.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Wed May 08, 2019 12:19 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The Cat Bots and Spider Bots are Mold Variants.


So what, isn't this line about the show models? And Blackarachnia and tarantulus do not share show models



:???: They do, though. BA's torso is more tapered, but otherwise the same. The Spider Bot and Cat Bot show models specifically demonstrate identical engineering. The same limbs, kibble, transformations etc

Mold variants aren't a new concept to the Masterpiece line either... >:oP


Blackarachnia's model has more differences with Tarantulas', chief in the shoulders, torso and legs.

Where are some good images when you need them?

Not to mention Blackarachnia’s certain other qualities. I don’t know what they are, but I just can’t quite put my hands on them.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Randomhero » Wed May 08, 2019 12:28 pm

william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The Cat Bots and Spider Bots are Mold Variants.


So what, isn't this line about the show models? And Blackarachnia and tarantulus do not share show models



:???: They do, though. BA's torso is more tapered, but otherwise the same.


That is not correct. I don't mind the discussion but if you are going to correct me, please come with facts rather than simply what you think/remember. The torso is far from the only difference. There are enough differences to call them different show models in my opinion.



tarantulus’s also wasn’t based on a stripper lol
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed May 08, 2019 12:35 pm

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Not to mention Blackarachnia’s certain other qualities. I don’t know what they are, but I just can’t quite put my hands on them.


Well played, my good man. ;)^

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 08, 2019 12:45 pm

Tarantulus' back is also very different from Blackarachnia's

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed May 08, 2019 12:45 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Not to mention Blackarachnia’s certain other qualities. I don’t know what they are, but I just can’t quite put my hands on them.


Well played, my good man. ;)^

Anyway, back to model differences:

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Thank you. :APPLAUSE:

Clearly some people were too busy leering at the Sex Bot design growing up, to realise that the two Spiders and two cats shared a single model, due to budget reasons. I thought the reason BW cast was so small was pretty common knowledge?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed May 08, 2019 12:48 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Not to mention Blackarachnia’s certain other qualities. I don’t know what they are, but I just can’t quite put my hands on them.


Well played, my good man. ;)^

Anyway, back to model differences:

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Thank you. :APPLAUSE:

Clearly some people were too busy leering at the Sex Bot design growing up, to realise that the two Spiders and two cats shared a single model, due to budget reasons. I thought the reason BW cast was so small was pretty common knowledge?


Look again, at the areas I previously specified: the shoulders and torso are all different, not just stretched out or compressed like Tigatron's was from Cheetor. The legs... debatable with the texturing.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Immortal Starscream » Wed May 08, 2019 12:50 pm

no surprise on the price point honestly. Like I said when the speculation started, not just accessories, but also the amount of parts needed to pull off her transformation would be a major factor. shes bound to have a ton of panels to make it work, like mp megs "wings". in fact the image makes it seem like shes got something of a backpack, which is also expected.

My only concern, seeing all that gold paint, is that she wont be like my mp cheetor. As in, she will not have every part completely coated in paint. all of my cheetors joints have cracked and began to disintegrate from the extra tension created by the paint being on the inside of said joints. one of his wrists is more superglue then plastic now. :-(
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed May 08, 2019 12:51 pm

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Yes I already addressed the shoulders, the torso and the legs. The Tarantulas mold was shaped into a Fembot.... :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed May 08, 2019 12:53 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yes I already addressed the shoulders, the torso and the legs. The Tarantulas mold was shaped into a Fembot....


But the definition of "sharing" seems to be different between us. I think a more accurate term could be... "adapted"?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed May 08, 2019 1:01 pm

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I'm starting to think there is an in-joke I'm missing at this point :DANCE:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed May 08, 2019 1:06 pm

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I wouldn't know :o)

As the original point of the show models being similar was to see how feasible Tarantulas would be as a retool, I'd say maybe. Not as a direct retool (meaning directly sharing parts), but made from the same "skeleton", meaning joint placement and transformation would be the same. Same for Tigatron.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed May 08, 2019 1:10 pm

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All I'm saying is, functionally, why would they make two different toys for a Spider? Essentially the same Beast Mode?? Especially in a line wherein production costs are so much more.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Immortal Starscream » Wed May 08, 2019 2:22 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:All I'm saying is, functionally, why would they make two different toys for a Spider? Essentially the same Beast Mode?? Especially in a line wherein production costs are so much more.

regardless of shard parts on the show models, (seriously only the arms are the same on them, and if you really think the tarantulus model was "shaped" into blackarachnia, then you never heard the story of how her character model was invented.) the spider designs on both of them were radically different, although I could see how her spider mode could have been reshaped from tarantulus. BA's abdomen was more rounded, thicker and and bulbous. it was shorther then tarantulus' though. she also had longer skinnier legs. only the head and pedipalps are the same, with different textures and sizes applied (tarantulus' was bigger then hers). and since this line is making such a big deal in making scales match, there's no way they can reuse any of this mold to make tarantulus. the build would have to be completely different to pull off his wider stockier, hunched over and shorter form. ImageImageImage
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Darth Zax » Wed May 08, 2019 3:08 pm

Hello, your petty discussion is kind of annoying.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed May 08, 2019 3:52 pm

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Burn » Wed May 08, 2019 4:46 pm

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 08, 2019 5:20 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:All I'm saying is, functionally, why would they make two different toys for a Spider? Essentially the same Beast Mode??

Why would they make two diffetent toys for an 80s lambo? Essentially the same alt mode??
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Wed May 08, 2019 6:08 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:All I'm saying is, functionally, why would they make two different toys for a Spider? Essentially the same Beast Mode??

Why would they make two diffetent toys for an 80s lambo? Essentially the same alt mode??

I think that marks the end of this argument
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed May 08, 2019 7:27 pm

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Wow, the colors are just as gorgeous as I had hoped they would be!

Price point is a bit higher than I would have hoped, as I was hoping for $120 around MP-45. But still, I'll consider her when pre-orders go up.

But dang. talk about a heavy fall. MPM Megatron, Jazz AND MP Blackarachnia. That is a heavy MP year ender
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu May 09, 2019 5:48 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:But dang. talk about a heavy fall. MPM Megatron, Jazz AND MP Blackarachnia. That is a heavy MP year ender

You weren't needing those kidneys were you?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 09, 2019 8:36 am

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Couple shots of her back reveal some texturing for her Spider Mode:

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

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