Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed May 15, 2019 8:30 am

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For what it's worth, I got an email from TFSource this morning saying that they lowered the pre-order price for Masterpiece Blackarachnia from $149.99 to $139.99 as per their pre-order price guarantee.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 15, 2019 8:31 am

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Well... I hate the BW TFormers for the concept itself (mechanical/organic beings... I rather like 100%mechanical guys).


Could be worse, could be 100% organic

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Barricade.it » Wed May 15, 2019 8:33 am

william-james88 wrote:
Barricade.it wrote:
Well... I hate the BW TFormers for the concept itself (mechanical/organic beings... I rather like 100%mechanical guys).


Could be worse, could be 100% organic

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Immortal Starscream » Wed May 15, 2019 9:09 am

Looks like Hasbro is selling her here stateside. how about that. preorders are up at hasbropulse.com:

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/transformers/products/takara-tomy-transformers-mp-46-blackwidow-beast-wars

too bad they didn't sell megs here too.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 15, 2019 9:12 am

Immortal Starscream wrote:Looks like Hasbro is selling her here stateside. how about that. preorders are up at hasbropulse.com:

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/transformers/products/takara-tomy-transformers-mp-46-blackwidow-beast-wars

too bad they didn't sell megs here too.


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You can get him here https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ails/76538

But the "exclusive retailer" is entertainment earth where he is almost sold out: https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... on/hse4006

We had written a news piece about it: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ron/41570/
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Seibertron » Wed May 15, 2019 9:32 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Waspinator, Scorponok, Tarantulas etc Typically their bot legs were only visible if you turned the toy upside down.


So what? Are you saying you would rather have that and compromise the robot mode? I dont understand what you are complaining about. Those original toys still exist if this one isn't doing it for you.


I would rather have the robot mode compromised. Get it close, but make it look good. As close to the silhouette as possible, correct head colors, proportions, a little kibble in this case wouldn't have been bad ... but you've got to get the spider mode as close as possible. The spider mode here looks really disappointing. The biggest issue I have are the golden legs prominently exposed in spider mode.

Robot mode looks amazing. Beast mode, not so much. I'd rather have an amazing robot mode with kibble that is able to achieve both modes than sacrificing one of the modes.

Though I will admit I'm torn ... some of you might perceive my comments above that I'm willing to sacrifice the robot mode. I don't think that's what I'm saying, I'm just being realistic about my expectations of what Transformers toys can do in the real world when you can't fake it like you can on the cartoon.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed May 15, 2019 10:15 am

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Wow, a lot can happen when the timezone shifts... :lol:

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ZeroWolf wrote:AllNews argument is that there would be panel folding shenanigans ala beast meg's backpack.
The difference is that Megatron at least had a backpack of beast mode kibble in the show. Blackarachnia did not.



Sabrblade wrote:Couple shots of her back reveal some texturing for her Spider Mode:

https://twitter.com/puchimablue/status/1126335793146896386

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Only posting this one shot since it's the least blurry.



As You pointed out though, The toys does.


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william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote: If they could achieve that way back in 1996/7/8, it is unacceptable to leave most of her gold legs visible on what should be a solid black abdomen.


I am with you on the dissapointment and I know where you are coming from but I do take issue with the text I bolded. It's apple and oranges because the toys came first back then. So of course it was fine. But then the character designer based her model on a stripper and made the character look nothing like the toy.

Now, we are basing the toy on the show model, which we can all agree is a rather peculiar one.

The better comparison, if you want to make one would be hod different the toy looks to the show model between then and now. This toy is inifitely better in that respect.


I was generalising the difference in aesthetic in Beast Modes, back then. Less so for individual characters. There was always some "cheetor" visible in his Beast Mode, as with the rest of the Maximals. Waspinator, Scorponok, Tarantulas etc Typically their bot legs were only visible if you turned the toy upside down.


hate to point this out, but blackarachnia did have bot parts showing, part of her calves, and all of her huge purple feel were showing, as well as her "anchor" which stuck out of her butt. the calves are much more noticeable on her 10th anniversary show colored version, being bright gold and all

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while I do agree that some kind of covering panel would have been preferable, given her size (she should be shorter then cheetor based off the show models) said panels would tiny be fragile as all hell. unless they just detached and became something.


From above and from the front, as I said, there is no bot showing. Unlike the MP.




william-james88 wrote:All zoological tidbits aside, AllNewSuperRobot, I agree with you. Blackarachnia's alt mode looks bad (I dont think anyone disagrees strongly with that) and I would have loved some extra panels to make it look better, especially the gap between the two segments. And MP Shadow panther doesn't look like our collective image of a black panther (which would look like Bagheera from the Jungle Book).

I just found the arguments a bit odd. Like comparing to an old toy that doesnt look like the show model, or comparing to a real animal when the original toy wasn't any more zooligically accurate.

In the end, we get a Blackarachnia which is closer to the show model than anything we ever got and we have another deco for cheetor referencing a deco we got for the original cheetor mold.

Personally, I dont know if I will get this blackarachnia. I like the character and the bot mode, but not a fan of the price or alt mode. Will you be getting it?


Basically, MP Cheetor has a section of his shins that revolves around from Beast to Bot mode. They could have done the same with Blackarachnia. They didn't. There were plenty of small fixes they could have used. As I said, I had better expectations for the MP Bug Bots than what has been shown in Blackarachnia.

I don't like Blackarachnia and that ugly stand will never see the outside of the box, but I will be getting it. Because I am supporting the full line, as I intended with MP Primal.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 15, 2019 10:22 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Because I am supporting the full line, as I intended with MP Primal.


I think it will be the same with me. But I will be using the stand for the web, I think that's a cool (though not needed) feature. it will also make the spider mode look better.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby 00Stargrave00 » Wed May 15, 2019 10:23 am

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Good morning fellow Seibertronians! As we've all been noting the polarizing beast mode of Black Arachnia Takara Tomy Youtube's channel [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jVQMH8Ww6c&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
has just posted a video review of her. Does this provide you with any further incentive to buy her or just drive home the fact that her beast mode is downright beastly? Let us know in the comments below! And happy Wednesday everyone!
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

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Shoot I didn't modify the link correctly again, sorry gang still learning :) Let me see if I can modify it...
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

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Shoot I didn't modify the link correctly again, sorry gang still learning :) Let me see if I can modify it...
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

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I believe this link should work correctly. Aaaaaand…..unfortunately that is absolutely correctly transformed. Dang.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed May 15, 2019 11:15 am

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Sabrblade wrote:TakaraTomy designer video, reposted by YouTuber Primal Convoy since the official upload is blocked outside of Japan:



Gotta love that mid-transformation pose they used for the thumbnail, lol!

Blackarachnia: "Hey! My eyes are up here! And my...oh wait...they're up here too!?!" :lol:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Immortal Starscream » Wed May 15, 2019 11:19 am

william-james88 wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:Looks like Hasbro is selling her here stateside. how about that. preorders are up at hasbropulse.com:

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/transformers/products/takara-tomy-transformers-mp-46-blackwidow-beast-wars

too bad they didn't sell megs here too.


Megatron is available stateside too, he even has his own hasbro exclusive box:

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You can get him here https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ails/76538

But the "exclusive retailer" is entertainment earth where he is almost sold out: https://www.entertainmentearth.com/prod ... on/hse4006

We had written a news piece about it: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ron/41570/


I knew that< I got mine from BBTS. I was stating he wasn't sold through Hasbropulse directly. I meant that I was hoping for one that was manufactured through hasbro and not a takara import/hasbro distributed. because of the crotch rot and wanting a david kaye voice chip.

that being said, I know this is going to be the same, the takara release with a domestic slip cover. just good to see hasbro's store front still embracing the Japanese imports.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby 00Stargrave00 » Wed May 15, 2019 11:24 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:TakaraTomy designer video, reposted by YouTuber Primal Convoy since the official upload is blocked outside of Japan:



Gotta love that mid-transformation pose they used for the thumbnail, lol!

Blackarachnia: "Hey! My eyes are up here! And my...oh wait...they're up here too!?!" :lol:



Oh you just killed me - I'm so embarassed I was so focused on her....derrier...region that I didn't, ahem, notice her...chesticles hefted aloft...
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby william-james88 » Wed May 15, 2019 11:36 am

Immortal Starscream wrote:I meant that I was hoping for one that was manufactured through hasbro and not a takara import/hasbro distributed. because of the crotch rot and wanting a david kaye voice chip.

that being said, I know this is going to be the same, the takara release with a domestic slip cover. just good to see hasbro's store front still embracing the Japanese imports.


Ok, I did not catch that.
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MP-46 Masterpiece Blackwidow (Blackarachnia) Designer Video from Takara Tomy

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed May 15, 2019 11:36 am

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The news just keeps rolling in for the upcoming MP-46 Masterpiece Blackwidow (a.k.a., Blackarachnia). As first reported to us by forum user 00stargrave00, Takara Tomy has released a three minute long designer video for the figure, showing off both modes, comparisons with the original toy from Beast Wars back in the 1990's, and some size comparisons with her Beast Wars Masterpiece contemporaries. Of course, the design team is most proud of the amount of articulation they were able to squeeze into Blackarachnia, showing her realistically crossing her legs and swaying side to side at her robot mode abdominals. The video is entirely in Japanese and without alternate language subtitles. Also, because the original video upload is geo-blocked outside of Japan, it's being hosted on Primal Convoy's YouTube channel. Thanks to forum member Sabrblade for that particular piece of information! Please, take a look at the video for yourselves below!



Has this video changed your mind at all about the figure? Do the sacrifices to the beast mode justify the amazing attention to detail in sculpt, paint, and articulation in the robot mode of MP-46 Blackarachnia? Let us know in the comments below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest news on all things Transformers!
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby 00Stargrave00 » Wed May 15, 2019 12:00 pm

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Pardon me ladies but are these arachnids giving you trouble? It appears you have the matter well in hand...or claw, as the case may be.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed May 15, 2019 12:56 pm

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Postby BumbleDouche » Wed May 15, 2019 1:41 pm

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed May 15, 2019 1:50 pm

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BumbleDouche wrote:Still looks a bit tall for Blackarachnia...



Yep, the height is wrong. So much for the show accurate scaling. I'd imagine they couldn't justify charging more than Optimus Primal for a figure that should be about the size of Rattrap >:oP
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Immortal Starscream » Wed May 15, 2019 2:04 pm

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BumbleDouche wrote:Still looks a bit tall for Blackarachnia...



Yep, the height is wrong. So much for the show accurate scaling. I'd imagine they couldn't justify charging more than Optimus Primal for a figure that should be about the size of Rattrap >:oP


Yup, your absolutely right. She should be just a bit shorter then cheetor. Images in the video make her look about the same height as primal. This kinda bothers me more so then the legs in beast mode. but we are still looking at a hand painted prototype. so it could still (unlikely) change. it could be a trick of the camera angle too.

I'm still getting her. Her robot mode is fantastic and shes my fave BW character, so it is kinda obligatory to do so. But for her not fit in with the others the right way on my shelf is not great.
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