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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby haldand » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:59 am

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I see a lot of comments about mass shifting or reality warping... and that is exactly why I tend to dislike the toys that make an extreme effort to be "show accurate". Something gets sacrificed somewhere to pull it off, from fake wheels and pretend windshields to overly complicated (and often therefore fragile) transformations, we usually end up with a less than perfect toy. Often one mode looks great, while the other is less so.

In my humble opinion, it is better to just focus on making a good toy with good articulation and a good transformation, and let the show focus on being the show.
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Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:02 am

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby aronjlove » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:27 am

haldand wrote:I see a lot of comments about mass shifting or reality warping... and that is exactly why I tend to dislike the toys that make an extreme effort to be "show accurate". Something gets sacrificed somewhere to pull it off, from fake wheels and pretend windshields to overly complicated (and often therefore fragile) transformations, we usually end up with a less than perfect toy. Often one mode looks great, while the other is less so.

In my humble opinion, it is better to just focus on making a good toy with good articulation and a good transformation, and let the show focus on being the show.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Or, if the TOY$ would be designed first and the show be based on them. Best example,Cybertron / Galaxy Force


I think a combination of both of your ideas. These are toys and ultimately going to be purchased by kids as well so the 'toy' component or 'fun' factor should be the primary concern above accuracy. And if the cartoons are still to be used as commercials for the toys then the developers of the toon should work hand in hand with the toy developers so accuracy is a given.

That being said, this Blackarachnia (Blackwidow) looks pretty amazeballs all things considered.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:43 am

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby BluePhirePB » Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:11 pm

All things considered, they did a pretty good job for beast mode and amazing for bot mode!
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Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:01 pm

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BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did a pretty good job for beast mode and amazing for bot mode!


I agree 100%.
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Postby william-james88 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:05 pm

Seibertron wrote:I'd have to see comparison pics to when it was mistransformed, but it still looks pretty rough to me in spider mode. The robot mode look insanely amazing, but at the cost of making the beast mode look pretty bad.

In this picture, it looks like her spider mode could potentially be a Titan Class Headmaster. I can't unsee it!

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Here are pics of it not being properly put together in beast mode. You can see the back of the spider just panels hanging loose.

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:16 pm

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I bet some 3P or Shapeway guy will make a butt-spider shell to cover this up.
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Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:20 am

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BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did a pretty good job for beast mode and amazing for bot mode!


Thirded. It's really a damned good toy overall. I can't wait to get her in-hand.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:00 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Or, if the TOY$ would be designed first and the show be based on them. Best example,Cybertron / Galaxy Force
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:46 am

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BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!



Agreed.

I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.

It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
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Re: More Images of MP-46 Blackarachnia Showing the Spider Correctly Transformed at Multiple Angles

Postby Mykltron » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:36 pm

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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby BluePhirePB » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:56 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!



Agreed.

I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.

It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby haldand » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:12 pm

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BluePhirePB wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!



Agreed.

I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.

It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.


I'm hoping for an Airazor. In fact, an updated Transmetal Airazor would be sweet!
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:18 pm

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haldand wrote:
BluePhirePB wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!



Agreed.

I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.

It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.


I'm hoping for an Airazor. In fact, an updated Transmetal Airazor would be sweet!
I think we can pretty much guarantee that no Transmetals who were not in the show will be getting Masterpieces.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-46 Blackwidow (Beast Wars), A.K.A. Blackarachnia

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:15 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:I think we can pretty much guarantee that no Transmetals who were not in the show will be getting Masterpieces.


Indeed. As much as I'd love to see TM Rhinox or Cybershark (in any form) in the MP line, it is extremely doubtful.


BluePhirePB wrote:Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.



Rumoured to be Rattrap next.
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Postby Sabrblade » Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:17 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I think we can pretty much guarantee that no Transmetals who were not in the show will be getting Masterpieces.


Indeed. As much as I'd love to see TM Rhinox or Cybershark (in any form) in the MP line, it is extremely doubtful.
Gelshark, however, would have a decent chance, but probably not for a good number of years (or via a fan-determined event like the poll that brought about Star Saber).

While never called a Transmetal, Gelshark and the other four Destrongers were initially marketed as a breed of Predacon called "Metal Beasts". ;)
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Postby william-james88 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:15 pm

haldand wrote:I'm hoping for an Airazor. In fact, an updated Transmetal Airazor would be sweet!

You wont see that within the next decade.
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Postby Sabrblade » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:07 pm

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Some in-hand pics of her robot mode, also featuring the green eyes she had when she was briefly possessed by Tarantulas in the Season 2 episodes "Aftermath" and "Coming of the Fuzors".

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Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:22 am

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Re: More Images of MP-46 Blackarachnia Showing the Spider Correctly Transformed at Multiple Angles

Postby william-james88 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:07 am

MP-46 Blackwidow (aka Beast Wars Blackarachnia) is only a two weeks away from being released and we are now getting some in hand pics. We only have the robot mode for now and it is slightly mistransformed. The belly, for instance, should not have the spider eyes on it. We will share a better image below to show you what it looks like. Also, since people had asked, we take the opportunity to show the difference between initial images of the spider mode and a recent image which shows it much cleaner and more put together. These images come from Vector Sigma on Facebook.

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Postby Nemesis Maximo » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:15 am

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Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:50 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Man I can’t wait to have this!


Same. She is looking really good! :D
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Hopefully there aren't any problems like BW Megatron's crotch. Although I have no interest in getting this (financially) i do hope those that do get her are happy.
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