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[blackeyedprime]

Cliff jumper may be based on his prime version with zombie upgrade parts, war for cybertron isnt sticking to purely G1 looks and with greenlight/lancer, Grapple could just be the Energon version with some holes in him

Expect the worst and then be surprised (or maybe even a little bit more disappointed) when the reveals come out.

[Sentinel_Primal]

Expect the worst and then be surprised (or maybe even a little bit more disappointed) when the reveals come out.

This is basically my way of approaching a lot of rumors Never thought we'd actually get a voyager Apeface, and yet here we are Some of these sound great, but I'm expecting the worst in terms of how they may look/what they turn into. If Hoist looks exactly like his character model it'll be a bit awkward looking, but if it's closer to Trailbreaker's, it'll look cleaner. If Wheeljack turns into a box van, the kibble will be extreme, but if he turns into a Cybertronian supercar, he loses accuracy to what his original alt mode was

[Ironhidensh]

What if Starscream... is just the same mold... as the Siege tetrajet... but with the altmode kibble... swapped out for new altmode kibble?

That's precisely what I was thinking too. Swap out that hinge and the wings/fuselage for a different set that the torso still just folds under and they're done. And we'll all buy it again.

Not all of us.

[What's Crackin'?]

I haven't posted on here in forever, but I'm really hoping that these rumors turn out to be true. I've been wanting a new G1 Cliffjumper FOREVER! And since this technically comes out before Bumblebee this will be the first time this guy has gotten a new G1 mold in 35 YEARS. The Hot Rod patrol sound's great too. I love Big Daddy and would love to get a figure of him in the G1 ascetic. Wheeljack is the one guy I can guarantee will come out since Spinister did, and he's on the boxes. Everything else sounds cool, but I'm only interested in those 3.

[william-james88]

Also, I'm debating with Grapple. Will he be an all new mold? If so, he would look out of place next to PotP Inferno. But if he were the (umpteenth) use of the original CW Hotspot mold, would it retain the combiner functionality?

Inferno was just a random toy to have on the shelves. It's what I always though and this further confirms it. He was never meant to be the definitive version of the character, as is the case for many opportunistic redecos where only the head changed. And so I think he will just remain a random combiner torso for you to do as you wish while this new Grapple (and eventual Inferno redeco) will be the new definitive renditions of the characters for a classics scaled collection.

[1984forever]

Dear Hasbro,
I need a Seeker Earth figure for every time a TF fan site says “take this with a grain of salt.”

Thanks in advance.

[skycutter]

Grapple could just be the Energon version with some holes in him

what energon Grapple?

[Sabrblade]

Grapple could just be the Energon version with some holes in him

what energon Grapple?

He's thinking of Roadblock, who was a Grapple homage.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Dear Hasbro,
I need a Seeker Earth figure for every time a TF fan site says “take this with a grain of salt.”

Thanks in advance.

For this however, you're not getting any: the product codes (E****) are enough to call them legit. Not sure who or what Ironworks is supposed to be (Micromaster "Irontread" seems to indicate Hasbro lost that trademark anyway), we'll have to wait and see.

[Decepticon Stryker]

Is it possible that Ironworks is the new legal-kerfuffle-free version of Ironfist?

Earth mode Starscream is really headscratching for me. Anyone here have Hasbro contacts that could clarify this?

[blackeyedprime]

Grapple could just be the Energon version with some holes in him

what energon Grapple?

He's thinking of Roadblock, who was a Grapple homage.

Yep, that's the one. complemented the Energon Inferno nicely as well. Might not even look out of place next to Siege Ironhide if Earth modes are becoming the norm for war for cybertron figures.
It will be nice to see if we get other series throwbacks like RID Magnus, Cybertron Prime and Hotshot.

[Emerje]

My theory for Ironworks:



Erector is a fan favorite (though mainly due to his name) that Hasbro would likely want to rename. It would be a little less confusing giving a Micromaster name to another Micromaster. The name actually fits Erector as an alternative pretty well. This leak has no obvious Weaponizer while his base could easily be broken down into parts to fill that role. Plus they've got three more to choose from for later waves. There's no real repaint potential for the trailers, but there is the possibility for parts sharing.

I feel like there's no real reason why Hasbro couldn't keep using the name Fisitron for Ironfist. It's such a clever name change that most people familiar with the character already knows, I'd hate to see them lose it.

Nice thing is we don't have to speculate for long, we should see some of these this time next week as well as a preview of the next Titan at NYCC.

Emerje

[blackeyedprime]

If ironworks isn't the weaponiser of the potential wave, maybe starscream can be? Pull his limbs off to equip them to megatron to beat starscream to death with or equip parts to Optimus for a starscream in disguise.
Starscream should be a new mold anyways to hide his legs otherwise I doubt he will be as good as the tetra jet.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Who says this wave has to have a Weaponizer? The two upcoming waves don't have any... Besides, the next one should be Scorponok's Fasttrack

[blackeyedprime]

Who says this wave has to have a Weaponizer? The two upcoming waves don't have any... Besides, the next one should be Scorponok's Fasttrack

Depends if you see selects as part of the waves or not as Jetdasher is yet to be declared how it is releasing. Emerjes Ironwork/Erector theory could be used as a repaint as fast track depending on how it is done (or vice versa if they are using a repaint of fast track as Ironworks to begin with).

Lets see how wrong/right we are in the next few weeks, for all we know ironworks could be a weaponising rocklord

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Who says this wave has to have a Weaponizer? The two upcoming waves don't have any... Besides, the next one should be Scorponok's Fasttrack

Depends if you see selects as part of the waves or not as Jetdasher is yet to be declared how it is releasing. Emerjes Ironwork/Erector theory could be used as a repaint as fast track depending on how it is done (or vice versa if they are using a repaint of fast track as Ironworks to begin with).

Lets see how wrong/right we are in the next few weeks, for all we know ironworks could be a weaponising rocklord

Like Zetar (drill), Cromar (jet) is a Selects release, the elusive WFC-GS04 to be exact. And like exclusives, I consider Selects separate btw

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm really hoping this Ironworks is Ironfist. We need more Wreckers!

[Wireless_Phantom]

I'm really hoping this Ironworks is Ironfist. We need more Wreckers!

Keep in mind, even if it does turn out to just actually be a deluxe sized Ironworks, he would probably fit in just fine among the Wreckers.

[Munkky]

Wheeljack is the only one of these I'm really interested in, I'm not exactly hyped for the third Voyager Starscream and third Leader Optimus Prime in a row, but it would be nice if we got Coneheads out of the mould, and I like that Earth alt modes are coming back (even if it's only a few figures).

[Nemesis Primal]

Someone on the TFW boards found another listing from the same source: E7146 Battlemaster Soundbarrier. So if anyone was worried that Battlemasters were only a Siege thing, worry no more. The link leads to a product not found page like many of the other ones: https://www.southernhobby.com/transformer-battle-master-soundbarrier/p38567/

I've also seen the suggestion thrown around elsewhere that this Trailer Optimus could be Machine Wars OP, and we might therefore finally get a new Thunderclash.

ALSO I realized, if Cliffjumper is allowed at Deluxe pricepoint in addition to Refraktor, I no longer see why Insecticons at said pricepoint are not allowed/okay.

So is this basically just the thread for WFC 2 now? Someone should remove the Fan Vote part from the title.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

ALSO I realized, if Cliffjumper is allowed at Deluxe pricepoint in addition to Refraktor, I no longer see why Insecticons at said pricepoint are not allowed/okay.

So is this basically just the thread for WFC 2 now? Someone should remove the Fan Vote part from the title.

I think Deluxe is the smallest Class for regular "standalone" figures now, with Battle Masters and Micromasters being more "accessory" Classes. Legends-sized figures may still be possible, but with more accessories to bump them up to Deluxe prices.

Or just split it off. Maybe wait with that until the line's name is properly announced

[Sentinel_Primal]

ALSO I realized, if Cliffjumper is allowed at Deluxe pricepoint in addition to Refraktor, I no longer see why Insecticons at said pricepoint are not allowed/okay.

So is this basically just the thread for WFC 2 now? Someone should remove the Fan Vote part from the title.

I think Deluxe is the smallest Class for regular "standalone" figures now, with Battle Masters and Micromasters being more "accessory" Classes. Legends-sized figures may still be possible, but with more accessories to bump them up to Deluxe prices.

Or just split it off. Maybe wait with that until the line's name is properly announced

I hope that's not the case. I liked the legends figures cause they were just as fun as deluxes for half the price. But, if they do get more accessories to justify the price, I suppose that'll be okay

Though, with the new listing for a battlemaster, I am looking forward to seeing what else they have in store. I'm hoping we see a few more melee weapons, maybe even a new shield

[skycutter]

not sure it goes here but we got reveal of 4 of these rumor(grapple, ironwork(whose actually ironwork)hot rod patrol and optimus)

[Sentinel_Primal]

Well... Guess they've decided they had enough Cybertronian modes then

[Ironhidensh]

Damn, these look good.