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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:19 am

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I could see egg carton material formed to Unicron’s shape just like a Han Solo in Carbonite casing kind of a deal. Like how Godaikins used to come in those styrofoam sarcophagi only with paper based materials.

I wonder for packaging and shipping though to what extent he’ll come disassembled like Metroplex/Fort Max having their one arm separate. Maybe the multi paneled parts on the legs attach like the wings/rings. They seem to come down to a centralized ‘arm’ or attaching point they collapse down to, I bet those pop on or something. Just guessing :D

The logistics of that stuff must get awful creative.

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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:26 am

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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:31 am

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I'm thinking it will be in ball mode encased in a giant gelatine cube, no need for a barcode if it isn't designed to hit stores.

If any bits detach the fembots (or male bots) can use the shoulder poles to shake dat thing.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:44 am

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Sabrblade wrote:There's always the old Styrofoam method.


I joked about that on another forum, but it didn't go well. I know there are packing peanuts that break down when exposed to water, perhaps they could create a mold that mimics the old Styrofoam, but made out of the biodegradable material?
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:13 am

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Cobotron wrote:Also I'd bet they would move back to the raffia ties instead of wire or the plastic ones they use now. There was a time when They used raffia ties and I'm not sure why they stopped.


Interesting, that must have been during the time I wasn't purchasing toys


I believe Takara still uses them on some items. If you have received your Grand Max yet, he was secured to the box with those ties.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:17 am

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Odd, I did get my Grand Max, but it was all standard plastic ties.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby God Sunstreaker » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:52 am

How does hasbro handle a change of address on pre-orders or haslab items?

I'd like to back Unicron, but I realized that because I'm looking for a new job I may have a different address prior to the shipping of Unicron.

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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby YRQRM0 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:56 am

ZeroWolf wrote:If this doesn't make it why do you think hasbro would jump to make it titan class? There would be horrible compromises, as already explained else where in the thread by people more versed then me. If you want a smaller unicron then I suggest getting one of the many versions of Armada Unicron.


I just don't get what compromises would be made for a smaller version. It just doesn't make sense to me. We've seen so many molds in multiple scales, even by Hasbro themselves. It wouldn't change anything for me if he was a little more hollow, didn't come with a stand, etc. I just don't care to have him be so big, at a certain point it's just past the size of something I want. It doesn't have to be the exact same mold either, or have the same level of detail. Primus still looks fantastic to me, and he's inches smaller than a Titan. If we got a commander class Unicron out of nowhere, some people would be upset he's not a titan, but many would still be thrilled to have him, me included.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby YRQRM0 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:12 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:If this doesn't make it why do you think hasbro would jump to make it titan class? There would be horrible compromises, as already explained else where in the thread by people more versed then me. If you want a smaller unicron then I suggest getting one of the many versions of Armada Unicron.


I just don't get what compromises would be made for a smaller version. It just doesn't make sense to me. We've seen so many molds in multiple scales, even by Hasbro themselves. It wouldn't change anything for me if he was a little more hollow, didn't come with a stand, etc. I just don't care to have him be so big, at a certain point it's just past the size of something I want. It doesn't have to be the exact same mold either, or have the same level of detail. Primus still looks fantastic to me, and he's inches smaller than a Titan. If we got a commander class Unicron out of nowhere, some people would be upset he's not a titan, but many would still be thrilled to have him, me included.

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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:16 pm

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There is much more to his size than merely his height being a few inches taller than a Titan.

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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby YRQRM0 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:41 pm

Sabrblade wrote:There is much more to his size than merely his height being a few inches taller than a Titan.

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Yeah I know, I'm not saying that he isn't more dense, wide, etc. I'm just saying the whole thing could be scaled down and still be physically possible, and I would prefer it. A lot of people would presuming it makes him cheaper. I know a lot of people are excited about how big he is, but I don't get why those people have to claim it's impossible for him to be smaller and would be a completely different figure if he was.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby mpappas027 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:07 pm

Guys.. am I drunk or is my computer screen broken? Did they just add 35 more days..... :shock:

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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:12 pm

YRQRM0 wrote:Yeah I know, I'm not saying that he isn't more dense, wide, etc. I'm just saying the whole thing could be scaled down and still be physically possible, and I would prefer it. A lot of people would presuming it makes him cheaper. I know a lot of people are excited about how big he is, but I don't get why those people have to claim it's impossible for him to be smaller and would be a completely different figure if he was.


Because there is a limit to how small some of the parts can go. Even though he is huge, some of his parts are going to be pretty small at the current scale. Think of just the last finger joint one on of his pinkeys. If you simply try to reduce every single dimension by 50%, some of the smallest parts for the current scale may be too small to function properly without breaking. This design was intended to be this scale from the beginning. Simply shrinking it may not be possible without redesigning some of the aspects. So it would likely end up in some changes, whether one would consider it a completely different figure or not.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:16 pm

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I just got an e-mail from Hasbro Pulse, they are extending the deadline to 10/6/19.... !!! :shock:
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:17 pm

Hasbro just pushed the deadline back by a month. I'm so excited / devastated.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby hyperconvoy69 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:18 pm

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AcademyofDrX wrote:Hasbro just pushed the deadline back by a month. I'm so excited / devastated.


I can confirm that I got the same email. I was ready to pull the trigger tomorrow and back Unicron too, but now I've got some breathing room.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:25 pm

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Well, well well....looks like Hasbro can budge if they need to ;) . I think they knew as well as I did that 45 days wasn't quite enough time. I'm far more confident now the project will reach 8000 backers. I still stand by the fact that we are far fewer and *arguably* not as well off as some SW fans, but given time, we can back this. Oddly enough, Cookie Monster not funding may have reallocated some potential resources as well.

I just wish I could have been a fly on the wall at the meeting when the people behind the Unicron project were begging the higher ups at Hasbro for more time.
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby God Sunstreaker » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:31 pm

YRQRM0 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:If this doesn't make it why do you think hasbro would jump to make it titan class? There would be horrible compromises, as already explained else where in the thread by people more versed then me. If you want a smaller unicron then I suggest getting one of the many versions of Armada Unicron.


I just don't get what compromises would be made for a smaller version. It just doesn't make sense to me. We've seen so many molds in multiple scales, even by Hasbro themselves. It wouldn't change anything for me if he was a little more hollow, didn't come with a stand, etc. I just don't care to have him be so big, at a certain point it's just past the size of something I want. It doesn't have to be the exact same mold either, or have the same level of detail. Primus still looks fantastic to me, and he's inches smaller than a Titan. If we got a commander class Unicron out of nowhere, some people would be upset he's not a titan, but many would still be thrilled to have him, me included.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post!


Hi,

First off: a smaller version of Unicron is a compromise. I want my Unicron to be the biggest transformer. When I bought my Armada Unicron in 2002 it was my largest figure (I didn't have Fort Max) and I was happy with his size at the time. Since I got Fortress Maximus (G1) I've been hoping for a larger Unicron so it can take the title of the biggest Transformers Figure.

I like it when the toys represent the fiction: The toys don't have to match the scale, but I'd like them to represent the fiction sizes. In the case of Unicron: The largest Toy should represent the Largest Transformer. Another example would be the Superion and Jetfire toys. The original G1 Jetfire was the same size as the G1 Superion and Jetfire was heavier and more bulky: the toys didn't represent the fiction and I would have prefered Superion to be larger. Another exampled is that Bumble Bee should be smaller than Optimus Prime.


There's already a Unicron that's smaller than Titan Class and larger than Commander class. It was orignaly sold 17 years ago and there hasn't been a large figure created since then.

It's a great figure and there's no reason to buy another Unicron unless there's something special a new figure brings. I'd be on the fence about buying a new Unicron figure that's just a Titan.


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I'm not sure why I see people assuming that Hasbro will just make another smaller Unicron toy. That's not an option available to the customer. Maybe it'll exist, but until Hasbro says it's a thing it's not an assumption I'm willing to make and I shouldn't be an assumption that anyone else makes. 1 bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush: we have 1 option now, any future options are conjecture or fairy-tale.

To make a smaller unicorn based on the existing model they'll have to shrink down the pieces, 3d print them and test the figure.
So there's more work to do before they get to the mold production. And, we can't assume Hasbro wants to go this route.

Think of it from Hasbro's point of view: if less than 8000 people want to buy this figure and the current Titans aren't selling very well then why would Hasbro commit anymore resources to produce a toy that less than 8000 people in the entire world wanted.
When there's a perfectly good 17 figure that they can just repaint and people will buy; that there's a market for then why produce another one.

This figure, is the one chance Hasbro is giving us to buy a newly designed Unicron figure.


People need to drop the assumption that if this haslab fails Hasbro will ever produce another Unicron figure within their lifetime. Armada Unicron was produced 16 years after Transformers the movie after prototype failures from the 80's.

It's now 17 years after Armada Unicron. This haslab Unicron is this generations Unicron. And it's still another 1.5 year out after backing. I would guess if this Unicron doesn't get backed it'll be 3 years minimum until a new Unicron is available in some form and it could be another 15 years if ever. This is hasbro saying here's your chance at the fandom's dream Unicron figure, and if you don't buy it who knows.



I'm not sure I'd buy a titan sized unicron, I want my next unicron to be the biggest figure.



Also, update Hasbro really wants this figure to be produced and sold. It's giving the fandom and other month 10/6/2019 to fund it!
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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:34 pm

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Nice on the extension and this is pretty much for sure now.

If they can throw europe a bone for ordering it all the meanwhile even better.

Great move hasbro :)
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Haslab Unicron Deadline Extended Until October 6 2019

Postby william-james88 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:35 pm

Sharing the news that Hasbro is officially extending the campaign for the TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON UNICRON HasLab project! The campaign will now end on Oct. 6, 2019. You can buy Unicron here.

Below, please find the message from Hasbro on the campaign.

TRANSFORMERS fans – it’s not over for The Lord of Chaos quite yet!

We’ve been reading your comments and listening to your feedback about wanting more time, and we’re excited to share that we are officially extending the campaign date for the TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON UNICRON HasLab project through New York Comic Con, ending Sunday, October 6, 2019.

We wouldn’t be where we are in the campaign without our fans and we are so appreciative of the overwhelming support on the project thus far. We want to make this dream item a reality just as much as you and feel that this extension will help get us to the 8,000 backer goal!

For those that have already backed the project, your card will not be charged until the new end date – October 6, 2019. Also note that you can still cancel your order if you no longer want to be part of TRANSFORMERS history. Just log into your account on HasbroPulse.com to cancel your order.


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Re: Haslab Unicron Discussion Thread

Postby Omegatrion84 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:39 pm

Fantastic news for everyone needing more time and wanting to back the project. Good job on Hasbro.

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