Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:27 am

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sol magnus wrote:
cruizerdave wrote:Hasbro, you so lazy! Why go to all the effort to modify the mold to make cone heads if you’re not going to remold the guns? Whatever.

Remold them for what? They had the same guns as all the other Decepti-jets on the show.

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Taking another look at Earthrise Ironhide, he looks to be MASSIVE for a deluxe, thanks in part to that new removeable car roof piece (compared to the Siege version). He can't be THAT hollow inside either to bulk up his surface area. I wonder if Ironhide is coming in a set with Prowl so Hasbro didn't have to decide on a deluxe or voyager price point for him.


Must be the angle. He looks like he's the same size as Siege Ironhide to me.

Did the toys have different weapons? I can't remember their weapons being different now that you mention it :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:33 am

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sol magnus wrote:
cruizerdave wrote:Hasbro, you so lazy! Why go to all the effort to modify the mold to make cone heads if you’re not going to remold the guns? Whatever.

Remold them for what? They had the same guns as all the other Decepti-jets on the show.



The G1 originals didn't had null rays but huge missiles or bombs.

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The complaint is valid as far as G1 toy accuracy is concerned. Hoh well, Shapeway or 3P upgrade kits it will be.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:54 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
cruizerdave wrote:Hasbro, you so lazy! Why go to all the effort to modify the mold to make cone heads if you’re not going to remold the guns? Whatever.

Remold them for what? They had the same guns as all the other Decepti-jets on the show.

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Taking another look at Earthrise Ironhide, he looks to be MASSIVE for a deluxe, thanks in part to that new removeable car roof piece (compared to the Siege version). He can't be THAT hollow inside either to bulk up his surface area. I wonder if Ironhide is coming in a set with Prowl so Hasbro didn't have to decide on a deluxe or voyager price point for him.


Must be the angle. He looks like he's the same size as Siege Ironhide to me.

Did the toys have different weapons? I can't remember their weapons being different now that you mention it :-?

The toy jets (Ramjet and Dirge) did indeed have different guns. Thrust had the same as the original three. On the show, though, Ramjet and Dirge had different 'guns' on the planes, but the same guns as robots.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:21 pm

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maybe hasbro accessory pack 2 with another figure down the line for their guns. Not too worried when its hard enough at the mo to get thundercraker/skywarp.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:01 pm

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Well we know this trilogy is all about hewing as close to the animation models as possible
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:07 pm

The guns don't bother me. Ironhide's roof shield and shoulders sticking out in vehicle mode? It's very inelegant. They were really not planning on making him in Earthrise when the Siege version was made because that could have been handled better.

Prowl looks good, IMO. Just a standard Autobot car. Which is all I wanted from him.

But they're all still way better then the universe and classics molds, so I'm good.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:01 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Possibly the latter, considering that Elita has been on Hasbro's radar more strongly the past few years.

Although the decision to make her an ER Arcee retool obviously came relatively early in ER Arcee's development.And is the reason the mold has the issues it does; they seem to have made it a total shellformer for the sake of making the robot body easy to swap out for a different one.
Ugh... It doesn't suit Elita very well (it would be better as Ariel) and it came at cost to Arcee's quality as a transforming to... Blagh. To the complaint box!

What's more annoying is that the front of the cars are actually different, but couldn't be bothered to shape them differently.

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They went through the trouble of giving different "headlights" that give it a slight more slope and a vent on top over the wheel, but could have done something more radical like a sharper angled fork similar to Pointblank.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:20 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Well we know this trilogy is all about hewing as close to the animation models as possible


To the point that they remembered that Dirge's lovehandles aren't blue, but gunmetal gray/black! Not even the Masterpiece figure got that right!

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Too bad the face is too light and the cockpit is completely the wrong color on the new Earthrise figure. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:31 pm

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The cockpit on the animation model look like plain clear. So the ER version is accurate.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:36 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:The cockpit on the animation model look like plain clear. So the ER version is accurate.


Look again. That's a yellow cockpit on Earthrise Dirge (and Ramjet).

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Although, some promotional shots show that it is clear instead, but with a face painted stark white! The test shots we saw of Thrust and Dirge have clear cockpit windows too, but again Dirge has his face painted white, which is completely wrong. We've got different differences between the CG renders, the leaked test shots, and now these promotional images of actual figures from Takara Tomy. It's entirely possible that these are again non-final production models, as happened with Earthrise Optimus Prime, who's plastic colors and paint apps just kept changing between renders, convention samples, and official promotional photography.
Who knows what the final products will actually look like at this point. :???:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:47 pm

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Yeah, the seekers look awesome... Very on point.
I understand the gripes about the weapons and what should have been done to make each one more unique.
I can let this one slide just because the overall look of the figures is so good.
At least the bot modes don't have hollow arms and/or legs.
Now, do I think the could've made Ramjet's weapons more missile-like?
Considering they're making money from 6 figures that are relatively the same, yeah, I think this could've happened...
But again, the bots (and the jets too) look good enough AND at legit voyager scale, that I'll gladly add these to my collection.

I've also come to realize that as much as I like the CHUG versions of most of these characters, I really think in some ways ER is just a bit better in terms of overall appearance...
ER Ironhide is a few times better than the Universe counterpart; the headsculpt, the shoulders, the forearms don't have the extra panels, and even the hands look better imo. And of course, the ER version is probably free of the permanent looking downward issue of the CHUG version.
With Prowl, minus the hollow-ish lower legs and feet, the proportions are better than the Universe version (which are a little on the lanky side) imo.
I've figured out that bot mode proportions are also a big deal to me; ER Prowl looks more animated and cartoonish, and just well-designed. I'd say the same about Ironhide; the proportions just look right.
I definitely don't regret ordering these, and am looking forward to having both next to Prime in my display.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby LinaNui » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:11 pm

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Try entertainment earth, I pre-ordered mine from there about 2 weeks back. Or just try targets since they are popping up there, store or site.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:37 pm

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Target would be your best bet, just have to be patient. Also BBTS is still taking pre-orders as well.

As someone else mentioned, I got my Doubledealer from Amazon today as well. I have him connected to Scorponoks base mode. I decided to take a couple days off. I'd love to get a Slitherfang in the next couple days so I can show off all the airlock system Transformers so far.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:53 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Although, some promotional shots show that it is clear instead, but with a face painted stark white! The test shots we saw of Thrust and Dirge have clear cockpit windows too, but again Dirge has his face painted white, which is completely wrong. We've got different differences between the CG renders, the leaked test shots, and now these promotional images of actual figures from Takara Tomy. It's entirely possible that these are again non-final production models, as happened with Earthrise Optimus Prime, who's plastic colors and paint apps just kept changing between renders, convention samples, and official promotional photography.
Who knows what the final products will actually look like at this point. :???:

Did any of the promotional shots show him with a white face and clear cockpit? The only time we saw him with that was that leaked production sample that I'm almost positive was hand painted. The picture from Amazon has him with a gray face (slightly metallic so it might look white, but it isn't) and it's basically the same as the most recent pictures from Amazon so this is probably what we're getting.

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We didn't get CG models for these so there's no telling what Hasbro's original plans were.

Nexus Knight wrote:So, unrelated note, but anyone can tell me how I can order Scorponok? He's outta stock on the Pulse, and last I checked, Amazon wasn't carrying him.

This is Amazon's listing link. They took pre-orders a few months ago at that link and I'm sure they will again soon enough. I kept it in my Amazon browsing history and I check it daily.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby horus » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:40 am

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Video Review is up now :-D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:18 am

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horus wrote:


Video Review is up now :-D


Fixed.

Quote me to see how it's done.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:58 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
horus wrote:


Video Review is up now :-D


Fixed.

Quote me to see how it's done.

Also, NEWS IT!


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:21 pm

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...well, a bunch of in-hand images of the Quint set, Dirge and Ramjet, the Astro Squad, and the Centurion Drone set surfaced on various sites, and, um, we're going to have to amend that list of all the ER numbers again, because E33 isn't a mystery, apparently:
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...which means the other two missing numbers, E28 & E32, are accounted for between Bluestreak and the soft-confirmed Autobot clones, and we therefore presumably know everything outside of Wave 4 and any further exclusives at the end, further dampening my hopes of more Mercenaries. :(
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:21 pm

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Yep. The production cockpits are orange. Why did that happen!? That’s not G1 toy OR screen accurate. The Coneheaded Seekers have always had clear, colorless cockpits. Also, the artwork on the front and the product photos on the back both depict Ramjet and Dirge with colorless cockpit windows. So much for cartoon accuracy.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:44 pm

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On se calme, crisse!


:lol:

Well, I'm exited as that Japanese reviewer! :DANCE:
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Japanese Video Review for Transformers Earthrise Dirge and Ramjet

Postby william-james88 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:38 pm

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There is now a video review for the Earthrise Conehead set. This is an Amazon exclusive and can be preordered there right now and it will be released in two weeks in the US. The review comes from Wotafa and is in Japanese, but it does give us our best look yet at the deco and details, plus it lets us know what the final deco truly is. Horus shared it on our boards and e-mailed us to let us know, along with other fine Seibertronians. We thank you all for these news tips.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Bombshell0001 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:08 pm

I can't wait for these guys to get here !!!! I hope they do Thrust right they did not make him right in the classic line .
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:04 pm

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Maybe we'll get lucky, and there will be an early running change to the Coneheads that amends the cockpits.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:46 pm

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I hope the cockpits stay orange. They have them in their TFU profiles, so that makes them acceptable. And they look better. I can't wait to have all 6 of them lined up on the shelf together.
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