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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Immortal Starscream » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:38 am

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Confirmed WJ wants Rainbow Brite and Strawberry Shortcake in this TF line ;)
"Buy this action figure and get a free dessert"? I'd be down for that. ;)


this has just made my day :-D
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Tuned Agent » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:24 am

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I'm actually pretty impressed by Rattrap. His robot mode is really well proportioned and articulated (with ball-joined ankles!), and I really like the rat's headsculpt. What impresses me the most is how compact his kibble backpack is, especially compared to his generations deluxe. If this is a sign of how kibble will be handled on the other BW figures, these are going to be great updates.

My main potential problem are his robot mode shoulders being on forward-facing ball joints. It probably will function just fine as the backpack wouldn't allow backwards arm movement anyway, but hopefully it's not too derpy. He could also use more paint, but that's the price point.

Overall, he's looking really good. I'll be buying him for sure.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Immortal Starscream » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:34 am

as somebody who has had pet rats in the past, I actually appreciate te way the robot arms stick out on the rat-butt. that's actually very true to real rats lol. cute from the front, nooooooot so much from behind :SICK: :SICK: :lol:
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New Video Review of Possible Transformers Kingdom Core Class Rattrap

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:08 pm

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Greetings Seibertronians! Hot on the heels of YouTube toy reviewer, TonTon Reviews, stop motion animation featuring our possible first look at Core Class Rattrap from next years Transformers Generations War for Cybertron Kingdom line, TonTon had now uploaded the world's first review of Core Class Rattrap!

The review was shared with us by fellow Seibertron user, Sabrblade.

We have embedded the review below for your convenience:



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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Quantum Surge » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:20 pm

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Me thinks this guy will pop up at around the last Earthrise wave like Combiner Wars Buzzsaw did.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -WonkoTheSane- » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:40 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Transformers should be like Marvel Legends, and this is at long last a step in the right direction, a step that was made in Thrilling 30 and then stagnated, and now is finally headed that way again.

I agree 100%. Thats why I always loved Thrilling 30 so much. There was so much character variety and diversity (Which really showed on the shelf, Too), That I never (And still haven't) got bored with it.
I've always wanted a sort of anthology series (like Marvel Legends) And I think T30 was the closest we ever got to that.
Anyway. I think Rattrap looks pretty good. It is nice that the ears don't stick out like the T30 mold in robot mode, Thats an advantage (IMO) that it has in its favor right out of the gate compared to T30.
My only concern is the scale. Now, I haven't watched Beast Wars all the way through in a couple of years, But does this scale seem kind of wonky to anyone else? Again, It might just be me, I don't know.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Omegatron. » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:42 pm

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o.supreme wrote:I too feel that this line should have stuck with the original series. Not for any lack of love for BW, I think BW is great, but every BW toy in this line is a potential original series character that gets snubbed. Conversely, every original series character in this line takes a spot away from what could have been more BW characters in a line dedicated to them.

If they wanted to do a Generations crossover theme, it just could have been done better IMHO.


Realistically though you can't expect Hasbro to double their toy output overnight, so they would either have to drop G1 production entirely and replace it with Beast Wars (which isn't going to happen when G1 sells the most) or keep producing G1 and nothing else (which they now seem to understand annoys fans of those series).
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:22 pm

Quantum Surge wrote:Me thinks this guy will pop up at around the last Earthrise wave like Combiner Wars Buzzsaw did.


Except it would have to be all or nothing for the wave 1 core class since that class doesn't exist on shelves right now. Buzzsaw was Legends which carried over from CW to TR, so he could be released under CW ahead of TR without screwing up the size classes. The same setup doesn't exist here, I don't see them jamming Rattrap into micromaster packaging.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Cobotron » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:26 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Quantum Surge wrote:Me thinks this guy will pop up at around the last Earthrise wave like Combiner Wars Buzzsaw did.


Except it would have to be all or nothing for the wave 1 core class since that class doesn't exist on shelves right now. Buzzsaw was Legends which carried over from CW to TR, so he could be released under CW ahead of TR without screwing up the size classes. The same setup doesn't exist here, I don't see them jamming Rattrap into micromaster packaging.
Same price point, different Class name. It's all about price points, Kev! ;)

Edit: Sorry, I miss read your post a little. I see what you are saying specifically about Buzzsaw.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby griftimus prime » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:43 pm

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these will just be updates of old looks? pretty weak. he looks nice but i was hoping for some cool new molds.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Munkky » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:52 pm

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It looks decent enough, I'd say I like the robot mode more than the rat mode, if only because the panel lines going across the rat's body stand out a lot more than on either the Thrilling 30 version or even the original Beast Wars figure. I wasn't expecting Masterpiece quality, and I'll still definitely by it.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:52 pm

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griftimus prime wrote:these will just be updates of old looks?
Literally everything in Siege and Earthrise have been exactly that, too.

griftimus prime wrote:he looks nice but i was hoping for some cool new molds.
It IS a new mold.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:14 pm

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Munkky wrote:It looks decent enough, I'd say I like the robot mode more than the rat mode, if only because the panel lines going across the rat's body stand out a lot more than on either the Thrilling 30 version or even the original Beast Wars figure. I wasn't expecting Masterpiece quality, and I'll still definitely by it.

The price point probably hampers what they can do regarding the shell.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:22 pm

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Size comparison from TonTon's video review:

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:06 pm

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Was not expecting to see this something like this show up already. :shock:

For a $10 figure, this looks...great, actually. He's equally as poseable as the T30 in bot mode if not slightly more so, and with a less shelformery/actually fun looking transformation compared to the T30. Since my T30's broken on top of that, I miiight replace him with this, not sure yet. I would definitely buy a Packrat or non-TM Labrat of this though, and it makes me VERY excited to see what the rest of the BW cast look like in the future.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Burn » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:06 pm

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For me personally, after the sub-par T30 figures (personal opinion, calm the **** down and save yourself the hassle of trying to tell me I'm "wrong"), I was wary of "modern" BW figures, considering the originals still hold up really well.

But if this is an indication of what's coming, then my interest has been piqued. Not sure where they'll fit in my collection, or even if I'll get them, but hopefully for those that grew up on BW, these end up being the modern updates those fans deserve.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Deadput » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:54 pm

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His flesh colored robot mode feet creep me out.

I understand why it's the case since it's the Rat mode feet as well but still, just looks so odd in Robot mode.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rtron » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:04 pm

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Deadput wrote:His flesh colored robot mode feet creep me out.

I understand why it's the case since it's the Rat mode feet as well but still, just looks so odd in Robot mode.


It's weird how both updated figures use the rat feet as robot feet, given this was not the case in the show. I guess it just makes the transformation easier to engineer. I'm liking the figure though, and it's a bit funny that's it's essentially part of the return of the scout class, just like his original figure (the size class was called "basic" back then).

Seeing how some of the Netflix Earthrise dudes are remolds, I'm still holding onto the hope of seeing Terrorsaur, Tarantulas and BW Inferno in the Netflix Kingdom line, as remolds of Airazor, Blackarachnia and Waspinator, respectively.

Also, I'm guessing/hoping we'll see G1 Hauler, BW Buzzsaw and BW Grimlock in the Selects range. Maybe BW Sandstorm?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:29 pm

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Hmm inferno from waspinator:-? I could see that sort of working
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:49 pm

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Is it safe to say Thy Kingdom Come?!!?

It's a shame they couldn't figure out weapon storage in Rat mode.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby bacem » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:16 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it safe to say Thy Kingdom Come?!!?

It's a shame they couldn't figure out weapon storage in Rat mode.


Or there could actually be one, but tonton didn't figure out, as he gets no instructions.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:08 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it safe to say Thy Kingdom Come?!!?

It's a shame they couldn't figure out weapon storage in Rat mode.


Or there could actually be one, but tonton didn't figure out, as he gets no instructions.

What?! But then how does he know how it transforms?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:17 pm

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bacem wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it safe to say Thy Kingdom Come?!!?

It's a shame they couldn't figure out weapon storage in Rat mode.


Or there could actually be one, but tonton didn't figure out, as he gets no instructions.

What?! But then how does he know how it transforms?

He fiddles with it? It works for me just fine as I don't normally use instructions ever >:oP
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:18 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
bacem wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it safe to say Thy Kingdom Come?!!?

It's a shame they couldn't figure out weapon storage in Rat mode.


Or there could actually be one, but tonton didn't figure out, as he gets no instructions.

What?! But then how does he know how it transforms?
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