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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:38 pm

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sol magnus wrote:My son transforms his Grapple all the time, and his pegs are fine. He just told me he pushes them in very gently. He's 8 and what I would call medium rough with his figures, but he guards those pegs. lol



That is so cool to know Sol Magnus I just needed to say! That would be epic if he continues the legacy as he grows! ;)^ :VEHI:

Thanks. I was going to wait for Inferno for him, but Grapple was on sale for 17 bucks at Walmart so I got it. He knows all the issues on his own due to poring over Youtube videos. I've never even attempted to transform mine lol.



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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Quantum Surge » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:38 pm

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I found a Walmart listing that is identified as TRA GEN WFC K LEADER AST; two purchases were of Beast Wars Megatron, one of them did not specify if it was Megatron or not, so I bit the bullet and bought one in hopes that it's actually Megatron and not Optimus. I'll keep you guys updated, and maybe you guys can try it out, too.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Destron » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:56 pm

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o.supreme wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
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sol magnus wrote:My son transforms his Grapple all the time, and his pegs are fine. He just told me he pushes them in very gently. He's 8 and what I would call medium rough with his figures, but he guards those pegs. lol



That is so cool to know Sol Magnus I just needed to say! That would be epic if he continues the legacy as he grows! ;)^ :VEHI:

Thanks. I was going to wait for Inferno for him, but Grapple was on sale for 17 bucks at Walmart so I got it. He knows all the issues on his own due to poring over Youtube videos. I've never even attempted to transform mine lol.



It gets more enjoyable the older they get. My son is almost 15, but I occasionally brag about him (and my daughter who just turned 16). Although he is developing his own interests now, he still enjoys our mutual TF Generations collection.


That's so cool guy's...so cool! :APPLAUSE: :VEHI:
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:19 pm

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Quantum Surge wrote:I found a Walmart listing that is identified as TRA GEN WFC K LEADER AST; two purchases were of Beast Wars Megatron, one of them did not specify if it was Megatron or not, so I bit the bullet and bought one in hopes that it's actually Megatron and not Optimus. I'll keep you guys updated, and maybe you guys can try it out, too.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Quantum Surge » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:35 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
Quantum Surge wrote:I found a Walmart listing that is identified as TRA GEN WFC K LEADER AST; two purchases were of Beast Wars Megatron, one of them did not specify if it was Megatron or not, so I bit the bullet and bought one in hopes that it's actually Megatron and not Optimus. I'll keep you guys updated, and maybe you guys can try it out, too.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/TRA-GEN-WFC-K-LEADER-AST/556073487
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Also worth seeing who else would get Megatron, too.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:39 pm

Finally found a Cyclonus in the wild! I really thought I'd have to rely on my BBTS preorder. What a great TF! Finally! I mean the old deluxe size was great when Classics were few and Starscream was also a deluxe, but he needed this upgrade for a long time and the Combiner Wars version just isn't good enough.

Also grabbed Optimus Primal. Actually don't have ANY Primals, so it's a real first for me. Wasn't planning to, but he was there and I was in an impulse buying mood. Haven't opened him just yet.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:52 am

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So, I decided to try this Cyclonus out after hearing how good he was everywhere and also because he is a favorite character of mine thanks to IDW.

and having got him, he is not that good. I don't like him.

To start with, the head sculpt is ugly. The only nice thing about it is the light piping, but even that's the wrong color.

The purple is awful, I was hoping maybe it was pictures like Sunstreaker, but wow the purple sucks, and there are 2 different shades used around that don't work together. And it isn't even remotely right, it should be a dark purple. The fact that the CW Cyclonus has the best purple still is kinda funny and sad.

And also, his legs pretty much suck? The shape, the detailing, and the knees all kind of annoy me, plus more strange purple mismatching on the kneepads.

So yeah, I just don't like him, really at all. I'm really let down, this is supposedly the best Cyclonus ever and best figure of the line so far, and he's just not even remotely any of that to me.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby sol magnus » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:56 am

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Yeah, well - he ain't IDW Cyclonus. He's The Transformers: The Movie Cyclonus. You're looking for love in all the wrong places. >:oP
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:01 pm

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sol magnus wrote:Yeah, well - he ain't IDW Cyclonus. He's The Transformers: The Movie Cyclonus. You're looking for love in all the wrong places. >:oP

I knew going in he wasn't IDW Cyclonus, but I was expecting more from "this is the dry run for the Masterpiece in $30 form" quality.

I don't have any connection to Scourge and I like him far more than this
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby sol magnus » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:05 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
sol magnus wrote:Yeah, well - he ain't IDW Cyclonus. He's The Transformers: The Movie Cyclonus. You're looking for love in all the wrong places. >:oP

I knew going in he wasn't IDW Cyclonus, but I was expecting more from "this is the dry run for the Masterpiece in $30 form" quality.

I don't have any connection to Scourge and I like him far more than this

I love him. I do agree on the face, though. That could have been done better.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:30 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:37 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Where did the sword come from?

ebay seller mass-making them. It's pretty nice.

also just realized something, and I am shocked no one else has made this comparison: Kingdom cyclonus is to RTS cyclonus as the ER seeker mold is to the classics one. The engineering is really similar, things end up in exactly the same locations. Kingdom is the RTS upsized and "improved".

And that also helps explain some stuff. I did not like the RTS Cyclonus, so this one also not doing it as an upsizing makes sense as well.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:41 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Where did the sword come from?

ebay seller mass-making them. It's pretty nice.

also just realized something, and I am shocked no one else has made this comparison: Kingdom cyclonus is to RTS cyclonus as the ER seeker mold is to the classics one. The engineering is really similar, things end up in exactly the same locations. Kingdom is the RTS upsized and "improved".

And that also helps explain some stuff. I did not like the RTS Cyclonus, so this one also not doing it as an upsizing makes sense as well.

So if i want an IDW MTMTE/ Lost Light Cyclonus im better sticking with Combiner Wars? :-?

I got to say though, after all the praise he's been getting, your thoughts is a 180 on him. It's quite interesting really.

Thinking further, I wouldn't say no to a Transformers Comics Legends series that did finally give us IDW/Marvel comic characters as they appeared on page.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:51 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Where did the sword come from?

ebay seller mass-making them. It's pretty nice.

also just realized something, and I am shocked no one else has made this comparison: Kingdom cyclonus is to RTS cyclonus as the ER seeker mold is to the classics one. The engineering is really similar, things end up in exactly the same locations. Kingdom is the RTS upsized and "improved".

And that also helps explain some stuff. I did not like the RTS Cyclonus, so this one also not doing it as an upsizing makes sense as well.

So if i want an IDW MTMTE/ Lost Light Cyclonus im better sticking with Combiner Wars? :-?

I got to say though, after all the praise he's been getting, your thoughts is a 180 on him. It's quite interesting really.

Thinking further, I wouldn't say no to a Transformers Comics Legends series that did finally give us IDW/Marvel comic characters as they appeared on page.

I would say yes. the CW Cyclonus remains my favorite one, mainly for the better head and the proper purple. the only place I can say Kingdom beats it is in posing and cleaner jet mode underside, both posing doesn't mean too much to me and the CW jet mode is still good. and even amongst any 3P options, he is still the closest you get without a RTS cyclonus with the upgrade kit from years ago.

I have no idea why this Cyclonus is considered one of the best toys around. I just don't see it. I want to, but I can't. Maybe I'm just too young/the wrong generation to appreciate this aesthetic/color/design
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:10 pm

For me, not having a strong connection to the character either from TFTM or IDW, it all comes down to the transformation and it is easily the most fun of the entire first wave for me, possibly the most fun of a transformation since TR Triggerhappy.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:19 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:For me, not having a strong connection to the character either from TFTM or IDW, it all comes down to the transformation and it is easily the most fun of the entire first wave for me, possibly the most fun of a transformation since TR Triggerhappy.

This ^^^ I know the knees are a love them or hate them kind of thing and I for one love them, they do work well for posing. Then you got that nosecone that just unfolds foooooorrrrreeeevvvver which is cool and kind of a trip. The way the wings tuck back into the arms for bot mode and the flip back out for jet mode is also fancy. The color is not the best, I would prefer a deeper purple, but Kingdom Cyclonus is fun.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:20 pm

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I would argue that MMC version was a decent 3rd party IDW styled cyclonus, though i never owned the figure

I never got CW cyclonus because the robot mode looks disgusting to me, though kingdom version isn't without his flaws. I dont really care about the proper shades of purple so it doesn't affect me but the shoulder joint placement is a little weird and the head would've been cooler with a goatee or something, thats just if I want to be nitpicky about it. Gun storage right on top of the jet isn't my favorite so I store weapons under wings but it looks off that way too. More flexion at the bicep would've been nice (for sword poses though he wasn't meant to have one), and it's a bit annoying that the wrists are so tight and the forearms open up as easily as they do. But all that is if im searching for things to dislike, I like this cyclonus far better than the RTS version (now his "armada").
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:27 pm

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aronjlove wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:For me, not having a strong connection to the character either from TFTM or IDW, it all comes down to the transformation and it is easily the most fun of the entire first wave for me, possibly the most fun of a transformation since TR Triggerhappy.

This ^^^ I know the knees are a love them or hate them kind of thing and I for one love them, they do work well for posing. Then you got that nosecone that just unfolds foooooorrrrreeeevvvver which is cool and kind of a trip. The way the wings tuck back into the arms for bot mode and the flip back out for jet mode is also fancy. The color is not the best, I would prefer a deeper purple, but Kingdom Cyclonus is fun.

I value transformations as well, it's the main reason I like the MPM-10 Starscream as much as I do, but this one has already been done, so to me, it's not as exciting. Now someone like Cliffjumper from ER, that was wholly new to me and is still a reason he is one of my favorite WFC bots. Same with Cheetor in Kingdom so far
Razorbeast88 wrote:I would argue that MMC version was a decent 3rd party IDW styled cyclonus, though i never owned the figure

Even that one didn't work, it used the light colors and the robot mode and jet mode were not accurate. It was frustratingly like their Whirl: IDW inspired, but completely different and ultimately not a good option. Those 2 releases still irritate me to no end, I do not own a lot of 3P out of principle, and only buy 3P when an official version of whatever it is does not exist, but I would have bought those 2 if done correctly.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:31 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I have no idea why this Cyclonus is considered one of the best toys around. I just don't see it.

Maybe because there's only three relevant ones? And one is just too small now.

I actually hate the CW version, lol. The only reason I have it is because he's a voyager Cyclonus. I mean the colors are true to the movie, although I do like a deeper shade of purple. And the face is a bit too square. Like the older character model as opposed to the final. But, for me, this is the Cyclonus I want.

If there was a version of this with a deeper purple or a more round face, then it's be better.

I don't think he's like the old Universe one, though. He's based off the same character, so robot to vehicle will have some similarities, but I don't think there's a lot of similarities. Especially not compared to Starscream VS Classics.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Quantum Surge » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:33 pm

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The only things I don't like about Cyclonus are the lavender coloring and the knees being a little weird. Beyond that, I'm glad I got him without paying scalper prices.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:34 pm

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I can see how that would be annoying
The only 3P figures I own (excluding upgrade kits) are iGear Ironhide, fansproject Bombshell, and MMC Sixshot, and they're not without their flaws. I mostly try to stick to mainline generations style figures
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:36 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I have no idea why this Cyclonus is considered one of the best toys around. I just don't see it.

Maybe because there's only three relevant ones? And one is just too small now.

I'm not talking just Cyclonus, people saying he is already the best figure of both this year, WFC, and a couple even calling him the best toy of the 1986 movie cast ever made. Character is one thing, but the wide range has been more like "best ever".

And I know I'm in the minority on the CW one, but to me, that one at least got the purple right. And if your entire body is colored in a bad color, any other good things are pretty hard to enjoy
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:37 pm

The 3p Cyclonus was tempting, but it just isn't "Cyclonus" enough for me. Just WAY too much detailing for the character it's supposed to be.

3P has been less tempting since they all went in on MP and HasTak has been making a LOT more of what I want.

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I have no idea why this Cyclonus is considered one of the best toys around. I just don't see it.

Maybe because there's only three relevant ones? And one is just too small now.

I'm not talking just Cyclonus, people saying he is already the best figure of both this year, WFC, and a couple even calling him the best toy of the 1986 movie cast ever made. Character is one thing, but the wide range has been more like "best ever".

And I know I'm in the minority on the CW one, but to me, that one at least got the purple right. And if your entire body is colored in a bad color, any other good things are pretty hard to enjoy

I don't think he's the best out of the entire movie cast or this year. I do like Scourge more. I think Hot Rod is the best of the ones I have.

I do like the purple on the CW one, but that's about all I like. Overall he's just too stiff and blocky and not-really-looking-like-Cyclonus-y. Great for Silverbolt, though. I dislike his head too. I mean he has the size and the color and, I guess, the jet mode if you ignore the robot doing yoga on the bottom.

The thing about the purple is that it's the purple from the movie. At least in some screencaps. It's what it's supposed to be. It's hard to complain about it when it's how the character looks like.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Quantum Surge » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:13 pm

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Quantum Surge wrote:I found a Walmart listing that is identified as TRA GEN WFC K LEADER AST; two purchases were of Beast Wars Megatron, one of them did not specify if it was Megatron or not, so I bit the bullet and bought one in hopes that it's actually Megatron and not Optimus. I'll keep you guys updated, and maybe you guys can try it out, too.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/TRA-GEN-WFC-K-LEADER-AST/556073487
Playing Russian roulette with your wallet. Fun. :lol:
Well, it looks like it certainly was like playing Russian roulette, as I got the blockhead truck instead of the yesman dino. Thankfully Walmart provided me a "replacement" order and won't charge me. We'll get back to the quotations in a few days.
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G1 Megatron (cheapest option would be the Chronicle 2-pack)
MPMs for cheap prices

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:30 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:For me, not having a strong connection to the character either from TFTM or IDW, it all comes down to the transformation and it is easily the most fun of the entire first wave for me, possibly the most fun of a transformation since TR Triggerhappy.

This ^^^ I know the knees are a love them or hate them kind of thing and I for one love them, they do work well for posing. Then you got that nosecone that just unfolds foooooorrrrreeeevvvver which is cool and kind of a trip. The way the wings tuck back into the arms for bot mode and the flip back out for jet mode is also fancy. The color is not the best, I would prefer a deeper purple, but Kingdom Cyclonus is fun.


My gut tells me we'll see that deeper purple if they do a Targetmaster release.
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