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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby mikeb » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:35 am

Chriphord wrote:I kind of feel like the scuffing and lack of painted goatee might point to a possible MP Galvatron soon. The combination of us getting our Mini-MPs as well as the major price hike the actual masterpieces have been getting lately have been pushing people to be transitioning to main line instead of MP (based on what I’ve read in the forums at least). I’m sure that the Hasboys know this to some extent and are trying to make sure that people still have reason to get the Masterpiece (if one is indeed in the works.)


I think you're on the money. I bet we see an MP Galvatron in a year or two. This one looks like a nice figure, but for folks who really want an '86 movie-accurate deco, there's enough room for improvement that I suspect there is an MP planned, a third redeco of this figure, or both.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:36 am

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william-james88 wrote:Just wondering when people are gonna start complaining that they are paying $50 for a bot that's just a hair taller than Cyclonus.


If Galvatron cannot magically shrink down to be able to ride inside Cyclonus's cockpit, I'll be really upset. [-(
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby blackeyedprime » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:51 am

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A lot of things seem off about Galvatron but dunno what they are. It will be nice to see him transformed correctly. I was thinking a red belt buckle might help but it might accentuate his waist damage from wearing a corset for too long. Other colors might work better on him but he's not the definite purchase I thought he would be.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby frogbat » Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:27 am

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Never like it when figures get a new iteration so soon after a recent one. Unfortunately (due to monies spent), this is a total upgrade on the TR version which besides the head issue, was pretty ok.

Will deffo pony up for this. Surprised re the gun - I liked his g1 rifle...

would be a fun Easter egg if he had electronics too :D
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:21 am

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Lights and sounds is no longer a thing in the Generations and movie lines for some years now. I don't think they'll make a comeback any times soon.

For the little I've seen, this Galvatron look a bit goofy. But it's too early to really judge.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:34 am

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You know, when I first saw this picture I thought his shoulder placement seemed kind of weird, and then I realized that that's how its always been and he just kinda looks like that. I don't know if I'll go in on this since I'm not really a big fan of Galvatron (making him crazy after the movie was a waste as far as I'm concerned)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:54 am

Looks pretty good. The best Galvatron we've ever got! Which isn't saying much.

Parts of it are off, but it's no worse than how off other toys in the line are and better than most. Overall I like it!
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Immortal Starscream » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:55 am

Counterpunch wrote:Please...

PLEASE STOP WITH THIS RIDICULOUS BATTLE DAMAGE.

Hasbro I'm upset enough to be typing in all caps.

Whoever thinks this stuff is a good idea needs a talking to.


Gotta agree with this 1000000%. Now some figures it looks ok on. But most times it just looks like someone spilled silver paint on the figure. This is really true on the original Siege Optimus and Megatron, who's grey plastic had a semi translucent surface which made the paint splatter even worse. I alcohol'd that crap right off.

Now I really liked the TR Gavly and Roddy, but they were definitely done an injustice. Why now then when they have the chance to correct the wrongs of the past would they choose to add another blemish.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Bombshell0001 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:01 am

I hope he and Rodimus Prime scale well together !!!
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Notimus Crime » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:08 am

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So I'm definitely going to be getting Galvatron. I really liked the TR figure outside of the cannon placement in robot mode and the whole head debacle (just to be clear I don't mind Galvatron or really anyone being a headmaster in it of itself but the Halloween mask approach just didn't work) but yeah this is a pretty obvious improvement. I don't mind the battle damage, and even though I don't have any use for the mini-revenges as ships they look pretty okay as guns I guess.
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Re: New Photos of Transformers Kingdom Galvatron

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:14 am

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william-james88 wrote:Image


Kingdom Galvatron is perhaps the best looking (in terms of G1 accuracy) and most in-scale version of the character we've had over the past 15 years, but it feels like it falls noticeably short of benchmark of screen accuracy set by other contemporary figures like Hot Rod, Scourge, and especially Cyclonus. The torso is overall a bit too bulky, some of the other proportions are a bit off, some paint apps are missing, and the color of purple used is still not really correct. As weird as it is to complain about this, Kingdom Galvatron is actually missing some alt-mode kibble in robot mode. The general shapes and details are all there, just a bit off in some cases. It would help if we could get a picture of the toy at the same angle and pose as the G1 character model above for a better comparison.

Maybe it's too hard to nail a "true to life" Galvatron based exactly on the G1 character model that still converts into the right alternate mode(s) at the Leader Class price point. There is always some mass shifting and selective resizing done in the cartoon, and I can appreciate when Hasbro eschews perfect on-screen shape or form to use the real parts of the alt mode when they can, like Siege Sideswipe's chest being a bit too broad because it's the vehicle's real hood. Maybe some of the design differences in Kingdom Galvatron are because it's got a third mode we don't know about yet? There's probably a good reason for the compromises made, and it'll feel better knowing why those had to be made, but for now, we're just left to wonder.
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Re: New Photos of Transformers Kingdom Galvatron

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:31 am

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william-james88 wrote:Image
While not quite the same (based on the heavily use of shadow coloring), I'm glad to see this comparison pic use a cartoon model that's closer to the correctly-colored one:

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Instead of the incorrectly-colored one that's been floating around the Internet for years, now (which seems to be from where this and many other Galvatron figures got their purple):

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Knight » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:20 am

Immortal Starscream wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:Please...

PLEASE STOP WITH THIS RIDICULOUS BATTLE DAMAGE.

Hasbro I'm upset enough to be typing in all caps.

Whoever thinks this stuff is a good idea needs a talking to.


Gotta agree with this 1000000%. Now some figures it looks ok on. But most times it just looks like someone spilled silver paint on the figure. This is really true on the original Siege Optimus and Megatron, who's grey plastic had a semi translucent surface which made the paint splatter even worse. I alcohol'd that crap right off.

Now I really liked the TR Gavly and Roddy, but they were definitely done an injustice. Why now then when they have the chance to correct the wrongs of the past would they choose to add another blemish.


I'm digging this figure so Far. I agree about the battle damage though. I'm not a fan, altoug te way they did it on the netflix variations looked pretty good.

Looks like he'll have his cannon mode, but I'd like to see the alt modes. I'm betting he wont have part that you fold down to make his gun mode though, or maybe he will and they'll call it a submarine mode. But yeah, I want to see the alt modes.

I like the Gun/Ship they made for him as well. That'll look pretty nice with the arc on Unicron, though it would be nice if one of them were the correct color.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:34 am

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I'll toss my hat into the anti-battle damage ring as well. It doesn't look great. I'd rather they spend those funds on better overall paint-aps or tampo details than making it look like these Transformers don't know how to clean themselves. I'm not a fan of the battle damage unless it's an appropriate battle damaged deco of an non-battle damaged toy.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:35 am

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william-james88 wrote:Just wondering when people are gonna start complaining that they are paying $50 for a bot that's just a hair taller than Cyclonus.


Well, for the entirety of the WFC trilogy, "Leader Class" has been basically a Voyager with a bunch of accessories, fans have had time to get 2 previous years of complaining out of their systems. Rodimus was new,(a Voyager with a Ton of accessories, and a complex trailer/battle platform marketed as "CC") and thus a new wave of complaints.

I haven't seen thus far anyone complaining about the size of BW Megatron, or Earthmode Ultra Magnus (especially when there are so many other aspects to complain about) ;) .
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby sol magnus » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:46 am

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I can go either way with the battle damage. In most cases, it can be easily removed if you don't like it.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:57 am

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Seibertron wrote:I'll toss my hat into the anti-battle damage ring as well. It doesn't look great. I'd rather they spend those funds on better overall paint-aps or tampo details than making it look like these Transformers don't know how to clean themselves.


Galvatron is a dirty, dirty bot. :lol:
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Re: New Photos of Transformers Kingdom Galvatron

Postby Seibertron » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:02 am

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william-james88 wrote:Image
While not quite the same (based on the heavily use of shadow coloring), I'm glad to see this comparison pic use a cartoon model that's closer to the correctly-colored one:

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I despise this debate. The second one you posted is too light. The first one is how I perceive it to look, and is closer to this screenshot from TFG1S3 "The Ultimate Weapon". The most frustrating thing is that the shades of their colors vary from episode to episode and with the lighting within the episode and cell-shading doesn't make it easier to discern which is the correct color (though I'd like to see them just meet somewhere in the middle of the light and dark shades).

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:04 am

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Ooops. And just to make things more fun, I just realized that I had web-safe colors enabled in Photoshop so even my purple samples aren't right! Let me redo the image. Oddly just the dark purple of the Ultimate Weapon screen was slightly off, the others were correct or close enough. Image has been updated.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:16 am

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The many purple shades of G1 Galvatron ...

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:23 am

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I don't know why the fuss is about. Galvatron is clearly blurple. :lol:

If I recall correctly, Seibetron, you are a little color blind, yes? I remember another color discussion a few years back when those initial desaturated photos of Takara Tomy Legends Kup came out that made him look completely gray, instead of shades of green.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:27 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:I don't know why the fuss is about. Galvatron is clearly blurple. :lol:

If I recall correctly, Seibetron, you are a little color blind, yes? I remember another color discussion a few years back when those initial desaturated photos of Takara Tomy Legends Kup came out that made him look completely gray, instead of shades of green.


Very slightly color blind, but only with extreme shades of light green and red (i.e. brown shades) where the colors are pretty close, has nothing to do with purples ... nor does it have anything to do with hexadecimal colors where you can clearly see the different shades (as demonstrated in the images of Galvatron above that I posted).

For those of you who haven't done a color blind test in years, here you go. Have fun! To those of you who do not have color blindness of any kind, it's not exactly what you think it is for those of us who have minor forms of it. I went 35+ years without knowing I had any form of it ... and it's only when it's things like these color blind tests that it throws me off. I know damn well what all of the colors are ... and I'd argue that I'm probably more familiar with the color spectrum better than most (obviously not all) after working with hex colors for website design and Photoshop for 20+ years. My weakness lies with the edges of the color spectrum where certain lighter/faint pastel colors (primarily with red and green) are only a hex number or two away from flipping to a different color.

My point is, it shouldn't be a debate when it comes to G1 Galvatron's shades of purple as I demonstrated the different shades of Galvatron above from various episodes. And even if someone is color blind, if they can discern that a color is a different shade than where they've previously seen something colored, isn't all that matters when debating the usage of colors in relation to Transformers toys regardless of how they perceive the color?

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:44 am

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Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation, and not taking offense. It was an honest inquiry. :)
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Re: New Photos of Transformers Kingdom Galvatron

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:45 am

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william-james88 wrote:Image
While not quite the same (based on the heavily use of shadow coloring), I'm glad to see this comparison pic use a cartoon model that's closer to the correctly-colored one:

Image


I despise this debate. The second one you posted is too light. The first one is how I perceive it to look, and is closer to this screenshot from TFG1S3 "The Ultimate Weapon". The most frustrating thing is that the shades of their colors vary from episode to episode and with the lighting within the episode and cell-shading doesn't make it easier to discern which is the correct color (though I'd like to see them just meet somewhere in the middle of the light and dark shades).

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Thank you for entirely ignoring the point I was trying to make by deliberately omitting the other pic I posted, the one of wrong-colors Galvatron:

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Knight » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:46 am

Seibertron wrote:The many purple shades of G1 Galvatron ...

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No No No, It's Fifty Shades of Galvaton. :lol: :lol:
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