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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Lucky Logician » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:00 pm

Like others, I too immediately thought of Tidal Wave when seeing Ark's robot chest. But looking at the transformation, I just don't see how this could be retooled into a Titan Class Tidal Wave. So it is just a passing similarity and not a pretool.

And that makes me sad. Because, to be honest, I wanted a huge Tidal Wave toy much much more than I wanted a transforming Ark. At least I'll get a Teletraan toy though.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:16 pm

If we're talking about Tidal Wave, I'd rather he be done as the Nemesis now that the Ark is the Last Autobot. With a transforming Ark squashed into G1 continuity, why not?

If they made an actual Last Autobot out of the Ark, it'll be a hard pass. I'm making room for Ark as it is.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:50 pm

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WiseMan wrote:I honestly can't think of a bigger design failure in Transformers history.


I can think of 10 right now

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As for the comments related to the core figures, I am surprised people are still confused since Hasbro was very clear to their purpose. They are meant to be budget options for parents wanting to buy their kids G1 characters. And that's it. It has never been about them interacting with the ark, they were always going to be too big for that.

As for the reveals themselves. I love that Galvatron, looks great. I even like the combined rail gun mode. Don't care for it on the canon mode though, would be nice if they had a pic without them.

I won't be buying the ark, I have no room for that anymore.

I am ok with Scorponok but it's here that I am getting kind of annoyed at the "real life animal" look. His beast mode had a lot of personality and it also worked well for the robot mode's transformation since it keeps the same proportions in the torso area. Oh well.
Also, that purple is far too intense on that figure. I watch the show regularly and his colours are muted to blend in together, here is looks jarring.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Autobot N » Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:01 pm

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I told myself I wouldn't buy anymore Titans after Trypticon and Fort Max, since I don't have that much space available and those two were pretty disappointing.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Moonshot » Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:18 pm

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Galvatron looks awesome, but I am waiting for the hopeful Galvatron 2 selects figure since Megs is his Super Megatron mode in my collection. Scoponok looks good and I will get him, although he could be better like a lot of people already have mentioned. The Ark actually suprised me and looks great. Really like the Mainframe/Teletraan 1 chest figure. Also the Last Autobot homage is cool. I still only have/want Omega Supreme and Scorponok Titans, but I would buy a recolour Mainframe in his original colours. I could see the Titalwave repaint people are talking about, plus I may be in if an Animated Omega Supreme reshell type thing happened.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:52 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nuclearxpotato » Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:14 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Hey everyone,

I just wanted to correct something that was stated by accident in the Seibertron.com news section earlier today. Hasbro Pulse Fan Fest 2021 is on FRIDAY April 9th, 2021, not on Saturday. If you go to check it out on Saturday, you'll miss the whole damn thing. Please be sure to check it out on Friday at 11am ET. For further details, please visit HasbroPulse.com.


Preorders are also on Friday at 5pm. Get your hot-ticket items before they sell out in thirty minutes. :KREMZEEK:
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby blackeyedprime » Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:53 pm

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Nuclearxpotato wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Hey everyone,

I just wanted to correct something that was stated by accident in the Seibertron.com news section earlier today. Hasbro Pulse Fan Fest 2021 is on FRIDAY April 9th, 2021, not on Saturday. If you go to check it out on Saturday, you'll miss the whole damn thing. Please be sure to check it out on Friday at 11am ET. For further details, please visit HasbroPulse.com.


Preorders are also on Friday at 5pm. Get your hot-ticket items before they sell out in thirty minutes. :KREMZEEK:


Or preorder day 1 and never have the preorders fulfilled. I'm in no rush to preorder anything this time.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:01 am

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blackeyedprime wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Hey everyone,

I just wanted to correct something that was stated by accident in the Seibertron.com news section earlier today. Hasbro Pulse Fan Fest 2021 is on FRIDAY April 9th, 2021, not on Saturday. If you go to check it out on Saturday, you'll miss the whole damn thing. Please be sure to check it out on Friday at 11am ET. For further details, please visit HasbroPulse.com.


Preorders are also on Friday at 5pm. Get your hot-ticket items before they sell out in thirty minutes. :KREMZEEK:


Or preorder day 1 and never have the preorders fulfilled. I'm in no rush to preorder anything this time.


Same here. I've been over the "event pre-order" thing since Toy Fair 2020 after most of my pre-orders were canceled by Target, Walmart and Amazon. And the same with later pre-orders. Only thing I'll pre-order are those stores exclusives. Everything else, I'll order for my store and hope that I actually get the items from my distributors. You'd be shocked at how much Transformers toys that I order for the Seibertron Store never comes into stock. Still waiting on wave 2 Cyberverse deluxes and MP-19+ Smokescreen, Diamond! (just to name a couple off the top of my head)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Omegatron. » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:23 am

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I actually don't mind the gaps in the side of the Ark, they look like hangar bays for shuttle craft.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:46 am

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Omegatron. wrote:I actually don't mind the gaps in the side of the Ark, they look like hangar bays for shuttle craft.


Regardless, I'm pretty sure someone is already working on an upgrade kit.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby partholon » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:42 am

ive been hanging on to the crimbo bonus to get the ark figure and im happy enough with it.

kinda surprised he doesnt have a third mode though like all the other titans.

TBH considering its the ark i actually wouldnt have minded if it DIDNT have a bot mode in lieu of a full on playset to display your deluxe and voyager class figures on. its pretty much the only occasion they'd get away with that move.

kinda amused at the breastforce gimiick with teletraan 1 and i like how mainframe looks (we ALL know its getting a redux to him down the line :) )

but i'dve prefered if teletraan was made up of 3 or 4 bots like reflector was that turned into Guardian drones.

still like i said happy enough to just get another towering fig to go with the rest.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby sol magnus » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:07 am

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The Ark looks pretty good. I don't like the missing panels, but 3P will surely take care of that. That doesn't mean I'll be buying it. I'll wait for Mainframe recolor on Teletraan-1.

Galvatron was always going to be a buy.

I certainly think OG Scorponok was / is a better toy than the new Deluxe Class, but I'll most likely be getting it when I find it in a store.

I know all the issues with all the pre-orders and getting cancelled, but I've gotten everything so far from Hasbro Pulse,
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:15 am

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Reading lots of Tidal wave comment and I don't get it. Do people really want to spend 150$ along with a big lot of precious space for a tidal wave that turns into the ark? Sounds ridiculous. The coolest part about tidal wave was that he was 3 alt modes in one that then connected into a 4th alt mode that then turned into a robot. He was the opposite of a partsformer/combiner and still an original concept to this day. Enough with the placeholder BS toys.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:24 am

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william-james88 wrote:Reading lots of Tidal wave comment and I don't get it. Do people really want to spend 150$ along with a big lot of precious space for a tidal wave that turns into the ark? Sounds ridiculous. The coolest part about tidal wave was that he was 3 alt modes in one that then connected into a 4th alt mode that then turned into a robot. He was the opposite of a partsformer/combiner and still an original concept to this day. Enough with the placeholder BS toys.


Amen, brother! :BOWDOWN:

Tidalwave deserves his own mold. Commander being the best class for him.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:28 am

Tidal Wave?
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I'm guessing he's a Unicron Trilogy character I haven't seen yet as I'm still working through Armdada.
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Description of Upcoming Beast Wars Terrorsaur Toy

Postby william-james88 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:42 am

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One of the most discussed Transformers toys rumoured to come out this year is Terrorsaur. Some people have supposedly seen the toy and some descriptions of what they saw are leaking across the web. We won't reveal the source here but we will share what we read. What you will see below is a description of an image, so there is no sense of scale.

I've seen a pic of Terrorsaur, looks pretty good for an Airrazor retool

Pteranadon mode looks good to me, with the concession that like most TFs with jet/aerial modes it looks best from the top.

He looks decent in botmode, a bit sleek maybe, and the wings on the back are quite off model but will probably not be an issue when you have the figure in hand.

It looks like he has a faux chest piece made to look like the back of the Pteranadon so they didn't have to reorient the transformation scheme.

I'd say on the whole it's the Botmode that's compromised (and only barely) which was the right choice as Terrorsaur's onscreen transformation involved CGI magic...

Can't tell size from the images I've seen, but a pretty significant re-tool.

From what I can tell the major shared parts are the lower legs the forearms and potentially some of the internal skeleton/structure.

Head(s), wings, chest, waist, feet etc all look to have new sculpting

To be honest he's not really show or toy accurate, but you can tell the team at Hasbro have done their best within the retool budget allowed.

Pteranadon head (articulated opening mouth) on the back in botmode, and what looks like a faux chest that remains the chest in Pteranadon mode.
Wings are tip down (not upside down like the OG toy).


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby concrusher792 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:48 am

So my personal theory of Terror being an Airazor retool is seemingly confirmed. It just made too much sense for them not to.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:55 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Tidalwave deserves his own mold. Commander being the best class for him.


Obviously as Combiners and City-Bots are my favorite, there seems to be two distinct camps on Tidalwave. I fall into the CC line as well. It's in no way an attempt to diminish this character. I think he would make an amazing CC toy. But a lot of hardcore Armada fans really want a Titan, not sure why. The only time in fiction he was ever depicted at that size was in the PS2 game, and that was more of an anomaly. Also his very first darkened silhouette appearance in Armada definitely seemed like he was a gigantic bot, but turned out to be a "bigger-than-average" bot throughout Armada & Energon until reformatted into boat-guy (can't remember his name).
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:01 am

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o.supreme wrote:But a lot of hardcore Armada fans really want a Titan, not sure why. The only time in fiction he was ever depicted at that size was in the PS2 game, and that was more of an anomaly.
A lot people LOVED the PS2 game and see that nigh-unstoppable juggernaut as their definitive Tidal Wave instead of the silly lamebrain version from the cartoon.

o.supreme wrote:until reformatted into boat-guy (can't remember his name).
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Immortal Starscream » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:08 am

concrusher792 wrote:So my personal theory of Terror being an Airazor retool is seemingly confirmed. It just made too much sense for them not to.


I said that too once I had Airazor in hand. I could literally see the Terrorsaur figure you could make from the design. Figured Terrorsaur would be a heavy retool, or at least, share engineering. Much like how 1rst ed TF-Prime Optimus and the first Studio Series Optimus share engineering. Though I didn't expect a faux chest. :-?

I got utterly poo-poo'd for stating that opinion though.

That being said, still rumor until revealed, so could just be a made up story.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Switchback » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:17 am

We won't reveal the source here but we will share what we read.

...because we are too churlish to publicly admit it is a User on a different Fandom Forum, eh?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:17 am

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Sabrblade wrote:A lot people LOVED the PS2 game


Oh wow...that is news to me. I bought it brand new. Still have it to this day, but never really liked it. I didn't have kids of my own when it came out, but I let several of my friends' kids play it who would have been the right demographic, and none of them really liked it, said it was "too hard". I seem to recall getting some cheat codes to finish the game, and never playing it again. Also, I'm not saying this is a better game, but I paid quite a bit to import the Japanese PS2 game. I know in terms of function it is not nearly as smooth, (and got terrible reviews) but I found it way more enjoyable, and finished it 4 times through on my own (2x as Autobots, and 2x as Decepticons) to unlock all the characters.

That is definitely a head-scratcher that something that many people today don't even know exists, could be the definitive version of a character. But then again, I like a lot of obscure things as well.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:19 am

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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o.supreme wrote:until reformatted into boat-guy (can't remember his name).
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