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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu May 06, 2021 3:46 am

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Bounti76 wrote:If we're being anatomically correct, Wingfinger is actually female. As I understand it, females of the pterosaur species (or pteranodon, I forget which is the correct word) have noticeably smaller head crests than males, so really, she is a ninja.


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu May 06, 2021 3:56 am

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The problem is that Hasbro said he was a he in their product bio but, that's only an issue if you stick to what they say ;)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby MeGrimlock78 » Thu May 06, 2021 5:59 am

It's not the thinness in robot mode that bugs me...I just can't figure out how Wingfinger can fly with those "wings!"
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu May 06, 2021 6:29 am

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MeGrimlock78 wrote:It's not the thinness in robot mode that bugs me...I just can't figure out how Wingfinger can fly with those "wings!"


Same thing with so many bulky-non aerodynamic planes.

Or it just go fokkit and do the Superman like the G1 Decepticons.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Galvamaximus » Thu May 06, 2021 7:01 am

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When the Earthrise line was launched, I confess that I was disappointed that they did not launch any Dinobot. But since the first Fossilizer was shown, I loved the concept. The fossils are directly linked to the origin of the Dinobots (in the episode SOS Dinobots, in the cave and in the museum) as to some characters from Beast Wars (who scan buried fossils), in addition to the fact that the Fossilizers are extremely creative, allowing for several different combinations and assemblies . It was a big hit by Hasbro, which went beyond the conventional and gave us something really new and interesting. ;)^
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 06, 2021 7:16 am

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Bounti76 wrote:If we're being anatomically correct, Wingfinger is actually female. As I understand it, females of the pterosaur species (or pteranodon, I forget which is the correct word) have noticeably smaller head crests than males, so really, she is a ninja.
Tigatron and Waspinator scanned female beast modes too, yet they're both still male.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu May 06, 2021 7:19 am

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galvamaximus wrote:When the Earthrise line was launched, I confess that I was disappointed that they did not launch any Dinobot. But since the first Fossilizer was shown, I loved the concept. The fossils are directly linked to the origin of the Dinobots (in the episode SOS Dinobots, in the cave and in the museum) as to some characters from Beast Wars (who scan buried fossils), in addition to the fact that the Fossilizers are extremely creative, allowing for several different combinations and assemblies . It was a big hit by Hasbro, which went beyond the conventional and gave us something really new and interesting. ;)^


It's also a nice nod to the early days of paleonthology, when scientists barely knew what they were doing when rearranging the dino bones.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Galvamaximus » Thu May 06, 2021 7:27 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
galvamaximus wrote:When the Earthrise line was launched, I confess that I was disappointed that they did not launch any Dinobot. But since the first Fossilizer was shown, I loved the concept. The fossils are directly linked to the origin of the Dinobots (in the episode SOS Dinobots, in the cave and in the museum) as to some characters from Beast Wars (who scan buried fossils), in addition to the fact that the Fossilizers are extremely creative, allowing for several different combinations and assemblies . It was a big hit by Hasbro, which went beyond the conventional and gave us something really new and interesting. ;)^


It's also a nice nod to the early days of paleonthology, when scientists barely knew what they were doing when rearranging the dino bones.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Thu May 06, 2021 8:56 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:It's also a nice nod to the early days of paleontology, when scientists barely knew what they were doing when rearranging the dino bones.


Although the field has made some advancement, any honest Paleontologist will admit they STILL today barely know what they are doing.
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Kingdom Deluxe Class Beast Scorponok video review!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu May 06, 2021 1:38 pm

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Once again, Prime VS Prime deliver with an early Kingdom video review!

This time, it is for Deluxe Class Scorponok from the classic Beast Wars series! Scorponok is part of Deluxe Wave 3 that will be hitting store shelves along with Fossilizer Wingfinger, a repack of Earthrise Wheeljack and Tracks!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu May 06, 2021 2:28 pm

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way too short for my liking and something just looks off about the robot head. Could see it being reused for seaclamp or ciccadon but doubt they could work combining into it.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Thu May 06, 2021 2:38 pm

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I think after watching the review I'm leaning towards passing on this guy. He's mostly solid but I'm just not sold. Maybe if they retool him into sandstorm with the mutant head later on.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby DeathReviews » Thu May 06, 2021 2:53 pm

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Wow - how do some people get these things so dang EARLY? Do they have access to the factory floor or something? The rest of us casual reviewers have to wait for general release - there is no justice! ;)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Autobot N » Thu May 06, 2021 3:04 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:Wow - how do some people get these things so dang EARLY? Do they have access to the factory floor or something? The rest of us casual reviewers have to wait for general release - there is no justice! ;)
Almost certainly stolen figures, yes
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby jtanimator » Thu May 06, 2021 3:07 pm

Autobot N wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Wow - how do some people get these things so dang EARLY? Do they have access to the factory floor or something? The rest of us casual reviewers have to wait for general release - there is no justice! ;)
Almost certainly stolen figures, yes


Pretty sure we’ve gotten several confirmations that this kid does NOT steal these, he’s partnered with Hasbro.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu May 06, 2021 3:09 pm

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jtanimator wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Wow - how do some people get these things so dang EARLY? Do they have access to the factory floor or something? The rest of us casual reviewers have to wait for general release - there is no justice! ;)
Almost certainly stolen figures, yes


Pretty sure we’ve gotten several confirmations that this kid does NOT steal these, he’s partnered with Hasbro.


Nope.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Thu May 06, 2021 3:27 pm

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Not an agreement with Hasbro, but someone here recently (I apologize I cannot recall at the moment), pointed out a UK website that somehow does obtain toys quite early, and they have sent items to PvP to review before (he has credited them on his reviews), and this is how PvP gets several of them. Some of the more well known (infamous) early reviewers are obtaining questionable factory samples, based on their close proximity to where the toys are being made, but my guess is that PvP's family is financially secure, so he can afford to get the earliest sources and pay insane amounts to get them shipped to him in the UK as quickly as possible.

I mean most of us poor shlubs are living paycheck-to-paycheck so we have to budget our resources to get TF's when they come out, but of the several thousands of us, I'd imagine there are a few more well-off than others, so they get the reviews earlier. I'm not jealous, it gives me a good opportunity to look at something several months in advance.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu May 06, 2021 3:37 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:Wow - how do some people get these things so dang EARLY? Do they have access to the factory floor or something? The rest of us casual reviewers have to wait for general release - there is no justice! ;)

So you're saying if you had access to stolen figures before others you'd refuse them?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu May 06, 2021 3:51 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Not an agreement with Hasbro, but someone here recently (I apologize I cannot recall at the moment), pointed out a UK website that somehow does obtain toys quite early, and they have sent items to PvP to review before (he has credited them on his reviews), and this is how PvP gets several of them. Some of the more well known (infamous) early reviewers are obtaining questionable factory samples, based on their close proximity to where the toys are being made, but my guess is that PvP's family is financially secure, so he can afford to get the earliest sources and pay insane amounts to get them shipped to him in the UK as quickly as possible.

I mean most of us poor shlubs are living paycheck-to-paycheck so we have to budget our resources to get TF's when they come out, but of the several thousands of us, I'd imagine there are a few more well-off than others, so they get the reviews earlier. I'm not jealous, it gives me a good opportunity to look at something several months in advance.

Yeah he got others off In Demand Toys, like Selects Abominus and Volcanicus. I suspect Scorponok here is similar. An early review to build up hype.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby bodrock » Thu May 06, 2021 5:51 pm

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Scorponok looks pretty good! I'm still cool with my original, despite being in inaccurate (to the show!) colors, but I would totally pick him up if I didn't.

I'm really only waiting to get bots I don't have yet, like Tigatron! I can't wait to see his voyager -- I'm expecting similar quality as we saw with Dinobot. I know not everyone loved the Kingdom Dinobot -- but he's a helluva lot more of what I wanted than the original toys were, despite their charms. Of course, I'm only referring to Dinobot in bot mode, since I have yet to transform him. ;)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Lore Keeper » Thu May 06, 2021 5:53 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Wow - how do some people get these things so dang EARLY? Do they have access to the factory floor or something? The rest of us casual reviewers have to wait for general release - there is no justice! ;)

So you're saying if you had access to stolen figures before others you'd refuse them?

Yup. Some of us have moral standards.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu May 06, 2021 6:01 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Not an agreement with Hasbro, but someone here recently (I apologize I cannot recall at the moment), pointed out a UK website that somehow does obtain toys quite early, and they have sent items to PvP to review before (he has credited them on his reviews), and this is how PvP gets several of them. Some of the more well known (infamous) early reviewers are obtaining questionable factory samples, based on their close proximity to where the toys are being made, but my guess is that PvP's family is financially secure, so he can afford to get the earliest sources and pay insane amounts to get them shipped to him in the UK as quickly as possible.

I mean most of us poor shlubs are living paycheck-to-paycheck so we have to budget our resources to get TF's when they come out, but of the several thousands of us, I'd imagine there are a few more well-off than others, so they get the reviews earlier. I'm not jealous, it gives me a good opportunity to look at something several months in advance.


Early releases are weeks, not months before they're on shelves. I've also heard from several sources that he and Ton Ton sell their samples for crazy amounts privately to recoup whatever costs they had. Between the views and the sales, they're doing ok. For the record, Hasbro will never send out figures this early to be reviewed. If they did there's a long list of reviewers who have larger audiences and have a closer relationship to Hasbro than PvP and Ton Ton.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Lore Keeper » Thu May 06, 2021 6:03 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Not an agreement with Hasbro, but someone here recently (I apologize I cannot recall at the moment), pointed out a UK website that somehow does obtain toys quite early, and they have sent items to PvP to review before (he has credited them on his reviews), and this is how PvP gets several of them. Some of the more well known (infamous) early reviewers are obtaining questionable factory samples, based on their close proximity to where the toys are being made, but my guess is that PvP's family is financially secure, so he can afford to get the earliest sources and pay insane amounts to get them shipped to him in the UK as quickly as possible.

I mean most of us poor shlubs are living paycheck-to-paycheck so we have to budget our resources to get TF's when they come out, but of the several thousands of us, I'd imagine there are a few more well-off than others, so they get the reviews earlier. I'm not jealous, it gives me a good opportunity to look at something several months in advance.


Early releases are weeks, not months before they're on shelves. I've also heard from several sources that he and Ton Ton sell their samples for crazy amounts privately to recoup whatever costs they had. Between the views and the sales, they're doing ok. For the record, Hasbro will never send out figures this early to be reviewed. If they did there's a long list of reviewers who have larger audiences and have a closer relationship to Hasbro than PvP and Ton Ton.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu May 06, 2021 6:22 pm

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Hasbro won't send figures out...but retailers do ;) which we've seen happen like how In Demand Toys were Shipping SS Overload out a month and a bit in advance of most other places last year. Or how they were mysteriously Shipping Abominus out the same time as pvp dropped a review on him.

Besides sometimes I do question whether someone has stolen from the factory or if Hasbro are being very sneaky and using it as a way to build hype for forthcoming figures, plus they don't have to worry about a reviewer not declaring they got it from hasbro as they can rely on the "thief" angle.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu May 06, 2021 6:26 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Wow - how do some people get these things so dang EARLY? Do they have access to the factory floor or something? The rest of us casual reviewers have to wait for general release - there is no justice! ;)

So you're saying if you had access to stolen figures before others you'd refuse them?

Yup. Some of us have moral standards.
Good to know that you do. But does DeathReviews?
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #347 - Swooped In
Twincast / Podcast #347:
"Swooped In"
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Posted: Saturday, April 6th, 2024

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