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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:52 am

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:I mean ... if we want to get technical this is the 4th Waspinator since BW, he did have that tiny version, didn't he?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Yodoswaginz » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:59 am

I think he looks alright. I'm perfectly happy with my T30 Waspinator though, so I probably won't get him. I'll probably get any repaints if they make Inferno or Buzzsaw.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby YoungPrime » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:10 am

Meh I'll stick with the T30 one which I rarely displayed after 2 or 3 months anyway (not a BW fan).
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:11 am

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Yodoswaginz wrote:I think he looks alright. I'm perfectly happy with my T30 Waspinator though, so I probably won't get him.


Same here. As with Rhinox, this isn't an amazing improvement. The part I like least of the T30 is the whole bit with the front torso with all the robo bits smushed together and this one sufers from the exact same design issue. Wonderng if the scale would be better though. With T30 Rhinox, this scale works super well, not sure if T30 is taller than he should be compared to the Kingdom toys.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:20 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I mean ... if we want to get technical this is the 4th Waspinator since BW, he did have that tiny version, didn't he?
Reissues notwithstanding.

Not the reissue. The tiny Targetmaster I posted a pic of.

I mean, it technically counts, I think.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:26 am

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Looks nice. I don’t mind the purple, and if I recall correctly he did have a purple tinge to his wings from certain angles in the original show. I’ll most likely get him and relegate the 2014 Deluxe to the IDW2005 shelf.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Spider5800 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:27 am

Sabrblade wrote:Pretty sure that torso is mistransformed. The bug head ought to open up and split apart.


Yeah, looks like they missed a step.

I actually like it, purple wings notwithstanding. They even painted the stripes on the antenna in robot mode this time, something none of the other releases did (I think only some rare Japan-only repaints of the original and T30 molds might have included that detail), so he looks like a solid pickup for anyone who still needs a CHUG Waspinator for their collection.

Do I like it enough to replace my T30 version? I'll probably wait to see the correct transformation and some comparisons before I decide that. T30 is still a solid toy, and looks great with the other Kingdom Predacons.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:31 am

I'm having a hard time seeing this as anything more than basically a reshell of the T-30 figure. Even the transformation appears to be identical. It almost seems like they just traded the flapping wings gimmick from T-30 for ankle tilts on the Kingdom figure.

Also, I'm really not digging the fairly large tabs on his inner forearms.

This one is a definite wait and see for me.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby WeatherManNX01 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:36 am

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IMO, the T30 figure looks better (at least compared to these early images). That said, this still seems like a perfectly good figure for anyone who didn't get the T30 figure.

As it stands, I'll stick with T30, though that's subject to change as we learn more of the new figure.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:44 am

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I mean ... if we want to get technical this is the 4th Waspinator since BW, he did have that tiny version, didn't he?
Reissues notwithstanding.

Not the reissue. The tiny Targetmaster I posted a pic of.

I mean, it technically counts, I think.
Again, it is indeed the fourth counting the Targetmaster if one does not count the reissues.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I mean ... if we want to get technical this is the 4th Waspinator since BW, he did have that tiny version, didn't he?
Reissues notwithstanding.

Not the reissue. The tiny Targetmaster I posted a pic of.

I mean, it technically counts, I think.
Again, it is indeed the fourth counting the Targetmaster if one does not count the reissues.

To be fair I was only counting Deluxe sizing (or approx) and mold use. I probably didn't make it clear though :oops:
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:57 am

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T30 looks better than this guy but T30 also has more ball joints
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:03 am

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Since I missed T-30 back when it was out, I' definitely all over this one.

He looks really good.

I have the 10th anniversary re-issue of the original with the nicer paint, so this will go nicely with him.

Anybody got a pre-order links somewhere? Maybe Amazon?

Hope this means we'll get a look at Tigatron soon.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:05 am

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Overcracker wrote:Since I missed T-30 back when it was out, I' definitely all over this one.

He looks really good.

I have the 10th anniversary re-issue of the original with the nicer paint, so this will go nicely with him.

Anybody got a pre-order links somewhere? Maybe Amazon?

Hope this means we'll get a look at Tigatron soon.


I'm really eager for Tigatron!!! First BW toy I ever owned and I was obsessed

Really curious to see how he turns out and if there's going to be an orange version for that golden disk listing
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Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:45 am

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Might look better in both modes if the bug legs are switchable. Doesnt look transformed properly but def not doing much for me at the moment. Not likeing the placement of the arms in bug mode.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:47 am

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:50 am

DorkSide toys must be relatively close to me as my order is already out for delivery. The Twitter account that notified me of this availability said this was their third order, and each was shipped out quickly with prompt delivery. Their last order was Black Series Bo Katarn. Needless to say, I may be using them again soon.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:54 am

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:06 am

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...so that's the Beast Wars Waspinator design but with color influence from Animated, right? The darker green and all the purple absolutely match Animated Waspy, not BW Waspy. I hadn't even been considering that as a possibility, now I might actually have to get him...
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:13 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:...so that's the Beast Wars Waspinator design but with color influence from Animated, right? The darker green and all the purple absolutely match Animated Waspy, not BW Waspy. I hadn't even been considering that as a possibility, now I might actually have to get him...
BW Waspinator was dark green. The Thrilling 30 Hasbro toy was bright green for some reason.

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Compare with the two Takara redecos that used darker greens:

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:26 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:...so that's the Beast Wars Waspinator design but with color influence from Animated, right? The darker green and all the purple absolutely match Animated Waspy, not BW Waspy. I hadn't even been considering that as a possibility, now I might actually have to get him...
BW Waspinator was dark green. The Thrilling 30 Hasbro toy was bright green for some reason.

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Compare with the two Takara redecos that used darker greens:

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I'm not saying that BW Waspy isn't dark green, but to my eyes, the primary shade of green on that Kingdom figure look way closer to his main Animated green than his BW green.
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Plus he's got purple eyes in both modes and purple wings, whereas the BW colorscheme had bluish eyes and clear wings, that seems like more than a coincidence to me. It's a more muted purple than the Animated purple, sure, but it's still purple.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Immortal Starscream » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:35 am

This definitely seems to take design cues from the t30 version, though as mentioned before I do feel it is mistransformed. will wait for the inevitable early reviews.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:51 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:...so that's the Beast Wars Waspinator design but with color influence from Animated, right? The darker green and all the purple absolutely match Animated Waspy, not BW Waspy. I hadn't even been considering that as a possibility, now I might actually have to get him...
BW Waspinator was dark green. The Thrilling 30 Hasbro toy was bright green for some reason.

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Compare with the two Takara redecos that used darker greens:

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I'm not saying that BW Waspy isn't dark green, but to my eyes, the primary shade of green on that Kingdom figure look way closer to his main Animated green than his BW green.
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Plus he's got purple eyes in both modes and purple wings, whereas the BW colorscheme had bluish eyes and clear wings, that seems like more than a coincidence to me. It's a more muted purple than the Animated purple, sure, but it's still purple.


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:55 am

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o.supreme wrote:1. Waspinator (1996/97)
2. TM Waspinator (1998)
3. Animated Waspinator (2009)
4. T30 Waspinator (2013)
5. Kingdom Waspinator (2021)

*This list does not include any mini figures, or the MANY repaints and retools of the Original, TM, and T30 versions


I guess Animated Wasp a.k.a Fugitive Waspinator, the bumblebee repaint and precursor to Animated Waspinator, is not counted?

and Botcon Waspinator?
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