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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby alekese » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:03 am

The Vertebreak/Dracodon mold isn't part of the combiner; it doesn't partsform, either.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:07 am

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby M. Spector » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:42 am

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With all the recent pics and reviews of Rodimus, might have convinced myself to pick him up when he hits stores. Not a Hot Rod fanatic and young enough to be uneffected by 86 movie nostalgia so the judgement is mostly on the merits of the toy itself. I love how the trailer/camper thing has lots of lil compartments to store things and it looks it has a nice weight. As for the figure half, he looks good too. Nice sculpted detail, good articulation and relivent accesories

Now I just wish we could get a Decepticon Commandor class because right now my display has a major power imbalance with Jetfire just looming above all :lol:
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:51 am

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M. Spector wrote:With all the recent pics and reviews of Rodimus, might have convinced myself to pick him up when he hits stores.


*if* he shows up in stores. With the U.S. You never know. Walmart messed themselves over in 2019 with Jetfire. Hopefully SkyLynx did well enough at Target Retail for them to try it again this year, All we can do is wait and see.


M. Spector wrote:Now I just wish we could get a Decepticon Commander class because right now my display has a major power imbalance with Jetfire just looming above all :lol:


Well not a Decepticon, but an Evil Autobot (SG Jetfire) seems likely if the rumors are true and will likely be revealed in July sometime on Pulse.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:21 pm

o.supreme wrote:
M. Spector wrote:With all the recent pics and reviews of Rodimus, might have convinced myself to pick him up when he hits stores.


*if* he shows up in stores. With the U.S. You never know. Walmart messed themselves over in 2019 with Jetfire. Hopefully SkyLynx did well enough at Target Retail for them to try it again this year, All we can do is wait and see.


M. Spector wrote:Now I just wish we could get a Decepticon Commander class because right now my display has a major power imbalance with Jetfire just looming above all :lol:


Well not a Decepticon, but an Evil Autobot (SG Jetfire) seems likely if the rumors are true and will likely be revealed in July sometime on Pulse.

If they keep the faction symbol flip thing then he can definitely be a Decepticon :lol:
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War for Cybertron Kingdom Deluxe class Waspinator video review!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:33 pm

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Well, that was fast, fellow Seibertronians!
Kingdom Deluxe Class Waspinator was barely leaked that Tonton already made a video review of him!

The toy is shown in all angles and great details. Plus, Tonton made an extensive comparaison with the old T-30 version.

See the review down below!



Are you excited for his release? Will this Waspinator replace your old Generations or Beast Wars original, or will he be part of the swarm? Let us know what you think!
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Reformatted » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:47 pm

T30 looks like a Masterpiece compared to the new one. I originally thought the new one was pretty much the same as the T30 only with differently sculpted parts. But I should have known Hasbro would have to make it a lot smaller. God forbid they kept it the same size. :roll:

I'll still get the new one, I like them both, but it's not better than the T30.

Standing side by side, the Kingdom almost looks like a Cyberverse version. Only not as crappy as Cyberverse. But nowhere near as good as the T30. It really reminds me of comparing the MP Blackarachnia to the Kingdom version.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby First-Aid » Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:54 pm

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The video certainly improved my opinion on his colors. The wings aren't as purple as the initial picture showed in the light and the green is much lighter.

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:T30 looks like a Masterpiece compared to the new one. I originally thought the new one was pretty much the same as the T30 only with differently sculpted parts. But I should have known Hasbro would have to make it a lot smaller. God forbid they kept it the same size. :roll:

I'll still get the new one, I like them both, but it's not better than the T30.


Get used to it. These things are made of plastic, and in the end plastic is an evil substance made from oil. With less oil supply, the price goes up. With higher prices, in order to keep prices relatively close to normal the amount of plastic used has to be reduced. Transformers will continue to get smaller if they want to continue their level of quality in the plastic unless they find a legitimate, sturdy, affordable substitute soon.

Also consider that the inflation related to Covid is costing everyone. it costs more not just because of the oil and the plastic, but because the supply is so low. Everyone was shut down. General suplies of EVERYTHING are low. Why is the PS5 so rare? Shutdown of processor plants. That slowdown is going to continue for 3-6 years in nearly everything, resulting in 15-40% inflation annually by the end of the year; it's going to take a miracle to avoid a global economic disaster at this point.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Reformatted » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:06 pm

Ok, so after watching the video, I like the T30 robot mode better but the Kingdom alt mode better. :( And I like the clear purple better because purple is my favorite color so Kingdom automatically wins that one.


First-Aid wrote:Get used to it. These things are made of plastic, and in the end plastic is an evil substance made from oil. With less oil supply, the price goes up. With higher prices, in order to keep prices relatively close to normal the amount of plastic used has to be reduced. Transformers will continue to get smaller if they want to continue their level of quality in the plastic unless they find a legitimate, sturdy, affordable substitute soon.

Also consider that the inflation related to Covid is costing everyone. it costs more not just because of the oil and the plastic, but because the supply is so low. Everyone was shut down. General suplies of EVERYTHING are low. Why is the PS5 so rare? Shutdown of processor plants. That slowdown is going to continue for 3-6 years in nearly everything, resulting in 15-40% inflation annually by the end of the year; it's going to take a miracle to avoid a global economic disaster at this point.


I dunno man, Siege Ratchet & Ironhide & Earthrise Hoist & Trailbreaker were pretty big for deluxe class. And since the T30 & Kingdom Waspinator's transformation is almost identical, I don't really see why Kingdom had to be shorter. They made the Kingdom's legs hollow so how much more plastic do they really need to cut back? Also, the Kingdom's gun is just 1 hollow chunk. They're both basically the same figure, only differently sculpted.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:11 pm

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So waspinator is a smol boi
Wonder how he scales with cheetor, bumblebee and rattrap

I dont like insect legs in robot mode or how plain the gun is but otherwise he's kewl
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sculyblast » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:16 pm

the new waspinator makes me worry a lot about how much they are going to mess up the Terrorsaur resculpt.

I was hoping the Terrorsaur toy could be a placeholder as MP terrorsaur. "But there are dreams that cannot be, and there are storms we cannot weather".
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:24 pm

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First-Aid wrote:The video certainly improved my opinion on his colors. The wings aren't as purple as the initial picture showed in the light and the green is much lighter.

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:T30 looks like a Masterpiece compared to the new one. I originally thought the new one was pretty much the same as the T30 only with differently sculpted parts. But I should have known Hasbro would have to make it a lot smaller. God forbid they kept it the same size. :roll:

I'll still get the new one, I like them both, but it's not better than the T30.


Get used to it. These things are made of plastic, and in the end plastic is an evil substance made from oil. With less oil supply, the price goes up. With higher prices, in order to keep prices relatively close to normal the amount of plastic used has to be reduced. Transformers will continue to get smaller if they want to continue their level of quality in the plastic unless they find a legitimate, sturdy, affordable substitute soon.

Also consider that the inflation related to Covid is costing everyone. it costs more not just because of the oil and the plastic, but because the supply is so low. Everyone was shut down. General suplies of EVERYTHING are low. Why is the PS5 so rare? Shutdown of processor plants. That slowdown is going to continue for 3-6 years in nearly everything, resulting in 15-40% inflation annually by the end of the year; it's going to take a miracle to avoid a global economic disaster at this point.

While I’m not going to disagree with what you’re implying, I’m just going to point out that since these figures can take up to 2 years to design and produce, this explains the recent price hike more than anything, waspinator is this small because they are trying to adhere to the scale of the figures in the show, I’m not sure why anyone is surprised by the size of any of these figures anymore, this has been going on since the wfc trilogy began
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby alekese » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:30 pm

As for me, I'm a simple man, with simple pleasures. I see a charming little detail like articulated altmode mandibles, I instabuy.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby blackeyedprime » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:11 pm

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Mismatched greens are gonna BUG me but i'm passing on this anyway. Kingdoms been pretty poor for the beastwars figures and it was their chance to shine with only airrazor and rattrap swaying me so far.
The insect legs look pretty bad and theyve taken the realistic look away from them for a form that has had a bit more realistic influence. Not really liking the alt mode of T30 or kingdoms 9prefer animateds or original). Only positive is yay for keeping the light piping amd at least he has his hidden weapon unlike Cheetor (not counting his tail)

Hasbro might be able to polish a repaint out of it that tempts me but unlikely.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:11 pm

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The only real flaw on this wasp are the obvious robot feet on its chest. Appart that, he's the most perfect to date.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Reformatted » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:25 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:waspinator is this small because they are trying to adhere to the scale of the figures in the show, I’m not sure why anyone is surprised by the size of any of these figures anymore, this has been going on since the wfc trilogy began


I haven't watched the show in ages. So scale wasn't even on my mind.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:30 pm

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Sculyblast wrote:I was hoping the Terrorsaur toy could be a placeholder as MP terrorsaur.


Hope is just undiscovered disappointment. Also, the MP line is operating on a different scale so no toy from Kingdom could be a placeholder.

First-Aid wrote:Get used to it. These things are made of plastic, and in the end plastic is an evil substance made from oil.


The priciest part in the toy making process are the molds and assembly, not the plastic. That's why you can buy a leader sized Cyberverse toy for half the price of a leader sized Kingdom toy. Same amount of plastic but half the parts (meaning half the human labour and half the mold casting), invalidating any argument that plastic is the main reason for making smaller toys.

Waspinator is smaller here for a simple reason, they are adhering to the sizes on the show and that's it.

Anyways, in regards to these two toys, when looking at them side by side to me it was...

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rtron » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:40 pm

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I'd have too see what it looks like in other videos, but for now the purple looks very nice, show-accuracy be damned. Very nice beast mode, too. Sleeker and more wasp-like than the Thrilling 30 one. I found it interesting that his robot mode head is sculpted with his mouth half open.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:48 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby First-Aid » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:26 pm

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Overcracker wrote:$10 bucks says they reveal a Takara Premium Finish version with show accurate colors before the end of the year.

Any takers?


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby That_Guy » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:26 pm

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while watching the video I noticed on the arms and legs it appears you can remove them without wearing down the balljoints. Guess this means you can have the classic Waspinator in pieces mode? :lol:
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Munkky » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:35 pm

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That_Guy wrote:while watching the video I noticed on the arms and legs it appears you can remove them without wearing down the balljoints. Guess this means you can have the classic Waspinator in pieces mode? :lol:

Missed opportunity not making this figure a Weaponizer. Though the Studio Series 1986 Kup route where he's designed to be broken up into pieces would work too.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby That_Guy » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:37 pm

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Munkky wrote:
That_Guy wrote:while watching the video I noticed on the arms and legs it appears you can remove them without wearing down the balljoints. Guess this means you can have the classic Waspinator in pieces mode? :lol:

Missed opportunity not making this figure a Weaponizer. They could've at least gone the Studio Series 1986 Kup route and designed him to be broken up into pieces.


I was looking at my other figures from Kingdom. At the leg where it meets the hip, it's like you purposely can slide it off. I didn't notice that on other figures before.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rtron » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:07 pm

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Munkky wrote:
That_Guy wrote:while watching the video I noticed on the arms and legs it appears you can remove them without wearing down the balljoints. Guess this means you can have the classic Waspinator in pieces mode? :lol:

Missed opportunity not making this figure a Weaponizer. Though the Studio Series 1986 Kup route where he's designed to be broken up into pieces would work too.


Man, it'd have been so cool if they had incorporated that Kup-like feature! TonTon is... not particularly thorough, so maybe there's still a chance that it's there and he didn't see it. But, given how limiting parts count is, I doubt it.

Edit: Nah, watched it again and there's no chance he's got that feature.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Spider5800 » Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:06 pm

Think it's going to be a no from me, but seems perfectly fine for someone who doesn't have the T30 version to go for. Little smaller, purple wings, and the weapon seems worse, but the paint apps are better than the original Hasbro version of T30.
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