Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:13 pm

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Sowndwave76 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:That would likely be a separate release like last time, as an exclusive probably. However, I can't see them bucking the trend with accessories so there will be a few i reckon bundled in three alternate heads at least and every item he ever held on screen.


Yeah, MP Ghost SS as an exclusive makes a lot of sense.
Man, the more I've thought about it, the more I really don't want a cape...
Whether plastic or fabric, that's a relatively large item I'm sure Hastak would use to up the overall cost. I don't mind a crown, but I suppose they won't do one without the other.
Maybe we'll get the crown after Galvatron smashes it. I think it would be kind of cool if they could mold it so parts are thin enough to sit under a figure's foot without unbalancing the figure.

When you all think we'll get an official reveal?

They'll have to actually release a Galvatron mp for that particular crown accessory to work ;) as for a full reveal, no idea.
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby transformers_va » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:14 am

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Just saw these on the TFND facebook site

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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby transformers_va » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:26 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:NEWS IT!
I did :-D
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:26 am

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Version 2.0? Isn't this V3?
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

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It looks like.. a standard Seeker design? What difference am I supposed to be seeing??
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:45 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Version 2.0? Isn't this V3?
Since MP-11 was a retool of MP-3, Takara is treating MP-11 as a sort of "Version 1.5", while this is an all new mold like how MP-10 and MP-44 were both new molds compared to MP-1 (MP-4 would thus be the "Version 1.5" of Convoy).
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby Cyberpath » Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:17 pm

I like that the canopy is finally in one piece (a fake?) and that his boots are visible in profile without obstructions... the afterburners turning into Cuban heels were always a nice touch in his design. A lot of the jet is probably folded into his back, which looks kind of big.. as expected. As long as he doesn't have any doubles like MP-45 Bee, I guess, but we'll see. Face looks spot-on and hopefully translates well to 3D. Transformation is probably a nightmare... but it's not like that of MP-11 was particularly fun.
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New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:00 pm

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Greetings Seibertronians! Following a heads up from fellow Seibertron users, transformers_va and -WonkoTheSane-, we've learned that our first look at the recently teased new version of Masterpiece Starscream.

The first image comes from the TagHobby website, who took the sketch from Figure King #270 Magazine, where it was first published.

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Meanwhile, the Transformers Never Die (TFND) fan facebook page, have posted sketches of the side, front, And back of the design of the figure. These are believed to have also come from Figure King magazine.

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While this is the third version of Starscream to be released, this is being advertised as the second version of the character, as MP-11 was a retool of MP-03.

What do you think of these new designs? Will you be picking up this new version of the treacherous second in command? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:29 pm

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It’s a little difficult to see what’s going on totally with the backpack, but Screamer doesn’t look to bad overall. Can’t wait to see the alternate faces and accessories he’ll come with, really hoping they include the crown and cape too

Unfortunately he’s probably gonna be pricey AF, and that’s just gonna make it harder to try and get the inevitable other seekers..

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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby Emerje » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:58 pm

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Looks like they're treading a thin line between cartoon accuracy and not, just being a nice transforming jet. I suspect it'll be possible to leave the tail wings out for those that like that, can't think of any reason why that wouldn't be optional (I'm sure certain negative types can think of a list of reasons).

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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby Sowndwave76 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:06 pm

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Stormshot_Prime wrote:It’s a little difficult to see what’s going on totally with the backpack, but Screamer doesn’t look to bad overall. Can’t wait to see the alternate faces and accessories he’ll come with, really hoping they include the crown and cape too

Unfortunately he’s probably gonna be pricey AF, and that’s just gonna make it harder to try and get the inevitable other seekers..

:CON:


I know lots of accessories are becoming standard, but I wish it wasn't... A couple alternate faces for varied expression, a couple that are well-known items from the show, and that should be it.
Leave it to 3P to make crown and cape sets...
I'm saying this because I don't want any extras driving the price up; I'm really hoping this isn't over $260-$280... It's like those $120 Lego sets; gets very difficult to justify that chunk of change for a toy no matter how good it looks.
Then to think there will be 5 more MP's released with basically this same mold...

I'm very anxious to see painted shots... There are more and more figures I'd consider getting if I were to pass on this guy on top of what I know I want and what's possibly going to come in the SS '86 line.
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby 84everfan » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:05 pm

Boy oh boy another mp for everyone to complain about the price but buy anyway. Yeah these things are exclusively for cartoon accuracy and playability and nostalgia. And it looks gorgeous. Cannot wait to see it in color. Seriously though, you people have got to stop complaining.
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby blackeyedprime » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:02 pm

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At the moment I'm preferring the positionable wings of the original to be able to set them back/at angles but seeing the figure rather thn the line art will help more. I'd be happy for him to not include cape/crown and flight stand. I'll wait an see on the price before complaining though he's probably going to be three times the originals rrp.

Doesnt seem to be missing vital bits like the Baynus Mp version 2s lack of thrusters so that's a big plus.
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby Burn » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:44 pm

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84everfan wrote:Seriously though, you people have got to stop complaining.

nah, we'll complain and you can either scroll on or get over it. Ironically, you're in another thread complaining about Funko Pops. So I guess it's okay for you to complain but not others huh? :-?
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:53 pm

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OK, so my bet for this figure:

Price: $300-325

Accessories: 3 alternate faces, a crown, a cape, a Megatron gun, a stand/flight stand, and probably 3 other accessories I don't know about
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby First-Aid » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:13 pm

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Oh look. Another seeker mold. Wheee.

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:OK, so my bet for this figure:

Price: $300-325

Accessories: 3 alternate faces, a crown, a cape, a Megatron gun, a stand/flight stand, and probably 3 other accessories I don't know about


I don't think they will hit that price. I can't see die-cast in this figure like in Prime.
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:15 pm

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84everfan wrote:Boy oh boy another mp for everyone to complain about the price but buy anyway. Yeah these things are exclusively for cartoon accuracy and playability and nostalgia. And it looks gorgeous. Cannot wait to see it in color. Seriously though, you people have got to stop complaining.


To at least be fair, the MP line has seen a huge price increase since the shift to make the figures looks off-the-screen accurate. It started around the time MP Ironhide came out, if I'm not mistaken.

I mean, look at Bumblebee. The first MP Bee was only 60-70 dollars, AND he came with a complete transforming exosuit Spike/Daniel.
The new MP Bee is 120 dollars, comes with no exosuit, and in my opinion looks like someone stepped on Bumblebee's character model.

There's a LOT of extra engineering going into these new guys to make them as screen accurate as possible, and I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge this and not be a big fan of it.
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:24 pm

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First-Aid wrote:Oh look. Another seeker mold. Wheee.

>:oP

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:OK, so my bet for this figure:

Price: $300-325

Accessories: 3 alternate faces, a crown, a cape, a Megatron gun, a stand/flight stand, and probably 3 other accessories I don't know about


I don't think they will hit that price. I can't see die-cast in this figure like in Prime.


ALSO THIS. Yeah it's always exciting to get new MP news but... Another Seeker, another wave of only 84/85 Decepticons.
Exhaust and Loudpedal shouldn't be the only examples that don't fit under that category.

The MP line really should try to increase its Decepticon representation with new characters.

Masterpiece insecticons anyone?
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby 84everfan » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:17 pm

For those of you wondering about the price hike in mp figures,they're trying to be as cartoon accurate as possible. And if you look at the character designs they should not be able transform into anything. But the amount of separate parts that need to be individually molded and produced? That stuff costs money people. They have to make NEW machines for that sh*t. New molds. It's not greed, it's upkeep. It's what puts figures on the shelves for you people. And if you want accuracy in both robot and alt modes, you're gonna get an increase.
I'm 18 years old and I currently don't have a job or a car, or a whole lot of friends, and I'm willing to admit that so I don't sound like a hypocrite. I'm doing what I can to get by. I shouldn't have to be explaining this to 30 something year olds with significantly more stable lives than me. If you want "fun" for a fair price, then go sit in the corner and play with your CHUGS while the rest of us would rather save up for the sake of accuracy than settle for mediocre figures for children. Reflector being an exception.

I'm having none of that "refraktor" nonsense. So when I see people like jobbythehong complaining about backpacks saying things like #backlivesmatter it pisses me off. You're not displaying it from behind. I don't think there's much I can say else, but I'm sick of you people complaining.
We may be paying them but we should be lucky for what they do give us even though we all want our mp jazzes and galvatron's and what not. And yeah maybe they do suck at priorities, but let's cut them some slack and save our complaints for things like the scourge that is one step changers.
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby blackeyedprime » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:10 am

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84everfan wrote:be explaining this to 30 something year olds with significantly more stable lives than me.


Sorry to break it to you, but a lot of 30 somethings have even less stable lives :(
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby Immortal Starscream » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:40 am

84everfan wrote:For those of you wondering about the price hike in mp figures,they're trying to be as cartoon accurate as possible. And if you look at the character designs they should not be able transform into anything. But the amount of separate parts that need to be individually molded and produced? That stuff costs money people. They have to make NEW machines for that sh*t. New molds. It's not greed, it's upkeep. It's what puts figures on the shelves for you people. And if you want accuracy in both robot and alt modes, you're gonna get an increase.
I'm 18 years old and I currently don't have a job or a car, or a whole lot of friends, and I'm willing to admit that so I don't sound like a hypocrite. I'm doing what I can to get by. I shouldn't have to be explaining this to 30 something year olds with significantly more stable lives than me. If you want "fun" for a fair price, then go sit in the corner and play with your CHUGS while the rest of us would rather save up for the sake of accuracy than settle for mediocre figures for children. Reflector being an exception.

I'm having none of that "refraktor" nonsense. So when I see people like jobbythehong complaining about backpacks saying things like #backlivesmatter it pisses me off. You're not displaying it from behind. I don't think there's much I can say else, but I'm sick of you people complaining.
We may be paying them but we should be lucky for what they do give us even though we all want our mp jazzes and galvatron's and what not. And yeah maybe they do suck at priorities, but let's cut them some slack and save our complaints for things like the scourge that is one step changers.


your right on the piece count, which does make the price a lot higher. something I myself have also noted.

also complaining about complaining. Neat.

But the thing is, because we are humans, and probably have bills to pay, limited shelf space, families to take care of, etc, when something is very expensive, large, but without being the exact thing you've ever wanted, people are going to take it apart. because it is frustrating. But that is the nature of a niche market, and a masterpiece figure is a niche market within a niche market. Like it or not, toy collectors are only a small part of the greater toy market. Which is why I don't get mad at one step changers; those are not made for me. The masterpiece line IS made for people like me though, and has drifted away from when I feel made it great before. Personal opinion that mind you. So I will complain about what I don't like, because I want what I do like.

However, I acknowledge that the current masterpiece line does have a following, and probably way more then people like me who preferred the older mp's. Given these are generally made for the Japanese market, with western audiences being an after thought, that is likely what they prefer there.

and that is ok. NORMAL even. different people have different tastes. people will complain about what they don't like. Sometimes the complaining is a way for them to justify spending/not spending the money. like for me, I am looking at this sketch saying, he looks too thick from the side. almost catroonishly thicc. Do I really need ANOTHER mp Starscream to add to my overloaded shelves of Starscream? (probably yes) but that is part of being an adult and making adult decisions about frivolous purchases. (omg I just called Starscream frivolous, FORGIVE ME)

So there's no reason to attack people. Don't hate the player, hate the game, as they say.

I used to be "I am going to buy every mo EVAR!!!" but now I am finding plenty of reasons to pass on them, which is good, because I don't have the space or money, and have transitioned to the generations line, which is mostly awesome now. Which is also bad, because I don't have room, or money. seriously, I feel like this should be my sig atm: Image
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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby sol magnus » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:39 am

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Re: Masterpiece v3 Starscream Coming?!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:49 am

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sol magnus wrote:Gotta say, I'm probably going to get it.


As long that we don't have a repeat of Screamers 1.5, I'll be preordering this new 2.0 version as soon as the listing goes live on Amazon.JP.
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