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News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:33 am

Just a friendly reminder to go to your local comic book store and pick up these two compelling Transformers tales!

<i>AUG073740 TRANSFORMERS DEVASTATION #2 $3.99
JUL073630 TRANSFORMERS MEGATRON ORIGIN #4 $3.99</i>

They are sure to be all the buzz in the <a href="/forums/viewforum.php?f=23">Comics and Cartoons Forum</a>!

This would also be a great place to start a discussion on them, so expect spoilers when people start grabbing the issues.

Be sure to add your thoughts <a href="/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9777&sid=">here</a> in the <b>IDW-Transformers Universe Theories Thread</b>.

News Credits: 2 · by **Doctor Reggae** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:38 am

Reading them as I eat my lunch at work...so far, so good...

News Credits: 1 · by **bookofjunon** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:54 am

Just finished reading both.

Megatron Origins is good.

Devastation I am sorry to say, blows chunks at the moon. When is this regular series going to get good.

I mean they ruined Sunstreaker. Furman's work just seems to get worse with each issue.

Don't even get me started on the art. Don and Josh should be doing the art. E.J.'s art stinks. And that horrible colourist they have Zac, holy crap he stinks. His colours are all way off, off tone and just make EJ's work look worse.

EJ's art could be improved tenfold with a better colourist as can be plainly seen by the un-coloured pages IDW has shown us.

News Credits: 2 · by **Doctor Reggae** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:19 am

Just finished them both too...

Devastation #2, I thought, was pretty good throughout. Good flow to the story, subplots are continuing (specifically, with Ratchet, Verity, and Jimmy; Dante of the Machination; Hunter and Sunstreaker; the fate of Ark-19; Starscream; Wheeljack and Hot Rod vs. the Sunstreakers), and Furman's scripting remains tight.

Megatron Origin #4--I've enjoyed the series overall, but there's so much going on art-wise that it takes me 2-3 reads to pick up everything I need. That's not a knock on Alex Milne's art (his take on Sentinel Prime in the Apex Armor looks sweet, like bad-ass Gundam), but there's so much in each panel that it gets tricky to follow sometimes.

The coloring in Megatron Origin was somewhat spotty...especially during the battle between Sentinel and Megs. IDW had two colorists working on the issue, and you can tell where they switched off on pages. 21-22 especially have a huge jump in the color palette.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:20 am

*ye be warned of spoilers*

Megatron: Origins was a great conclusion to the story. Megatron and Starscream working together is crazy, and the showdown with Sentinel Prime was worth the wait. Thundercracker's moment of hesitation was good too. Ratbat's fate was... interesting.

However, it was somewhat hard to follow at points. Soundwave just appears in the Senate Chamber with no indication he was in the room the entire time. At one point Ratbat is speaking, but since his dialogue is coming through an open door, it looks like Ravage is the one talking. And the big final fight is a little hard to follow because of small panels.

I thought Devastation was great. I don't care for the purple on Hot Rod, but I guess it is an homage to his look in the old comics. I also had trouble believing they could pull off that maneuver with the Ark. The difference in design between the Headmaster heads and Sunstreaker's original head is really cool - especially the believable transformation involved. I would still have preferred that Hunter wind up bonded to Nightbeat, but I guess Sunstreaker and Hunter make a more entertaining odd-couple.

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:37 am

Things I know:

1. If Sunstreaker is beaten down enough that he asks to be killed...**** is serious.

2. When Sunstreaker gets out of this jam. Things are going to die ala Butch in Pulp Fiction.

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:38 pm

Arrgghhh... Must go home to read these now....

I am off!!!!

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:28 pm

I somewhat fear going into the IDW Discussion thread now, so many spoilers...
Who am I kidding, I'll read them all, and I'll get my comics tonight or tomorrow!

News Credits: 38 · by **Sunstar** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:52 pm

I like spoilers. :grin:

News Credits: 4 · by **Briggs** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:40 pm

That headmaster thing totally caught me by suprised, i enjoyed it.

I like seeing hot rod and wheeljack working together. Different personalities, etc, except when hotrod mentioned their similarity of course.

News Credits: 1 · by **Dr Buffalo** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:13 pm

The pleasant surprise for me was seeing a Mosaics peice in the back of the book. Makes me eager to write one on the off chance it might get published.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:58 am

I have a question. Isn't Ramjet supposed to have landed on Earth by now, given his appearance in the Avengers crossover?

by **Ddave** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:04 am

Leonardo wrote:I have a question. Isn't Ramjet supposed to have landed on Earth by now, given his appearance in the Avengers crossover?

I thought they had nothing to do with IDW's G1-verse at all?

Also, fantastic issues. Dev 2# was awesome.

My heart even skipped a beat when I saw what they had done to sunstreaker. Man, I need more!

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:29 am

I can see what people were saying about Megatron #4... Many unclear parts. The Apex armor was cool, but if it was so easily beaten one wonders...why use it?

Starscream was awesome, Thundercracker, Soundwave... I found it funny that Starscream said what he said to Megatron about the arm cannon.

Devastation #2 was cool. How the heck is Ratchet going to do anything against Sixshot? And Poor Sunstreaker and Hunter. It was certainly very interesting to see the headmaster gimmick, and a new way for them to transform. I can't wait to see where this goes.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:32 am

Ddave wrote:I thought they had nothing to do with IDW's G1-verse at all?

I thought the crossover was supposed to fit in between Infiltration and Escalation (or Escalation and Devastation).

News Credits: 1 · by **bookofjunon** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:25 am

What I want to know is, in Megatron Origins #4 when Starscream is being tried, where the hell did Soundwave come from. He's not in the panels before and then WHAMO, there he is in a panel.

News Credits: 5 · by **God Magnus** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:45 am

bookofjunon wrote:What I want to know is, in Megatron Origins #4 when Starscream is being tried, where the hell did Soundwave come from. He's not in the panels before and then WHAMO, there he is in a panel.

He's the security guy standing off to the side in the previous pannel.

News Credits: 1 · by **bookofjunon** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:35 am

God Magnus wrote:
bookofjunon wrote:What I want to know is, in Megatron Origins #4 when Starscream is being tried, where the hell did Soundwave come from. He's not in the panels before and then WHAMO, there he is in a panel.

He's the security guy standing off to the side in the previous pannel.

Thanks, I was wondering where he suddenly came from.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:10 am

God Magnus wrote:
bookofjunon wrote:What I want to know is, in Megatron Origins #4 when Starscream is being tried, where the hell did Soundwave come from. He's not in the panels before and then WHAMO, there he is in a panel.

He's the security guy standing off to the side in the previous pannel.

I still don't see him...

by **Sloptank** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:37 am

Anybody notice the headline on the newspaper held by the guy in the housecoat in Devastation? Neat little cross-series pop.

by **AxiomScion** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:50 am

Caelus wrote:
God Magnus wrote:
bookofjunon wrote:What I want to know is, in Megatron Origins #4 when Starscream is being tried, where the hell did Soundwave come from. He's not in the panels before and then WHAMO, there he is in a panel.

He's the security guy standing off to the side in the previous pannel.

I still don't see him...

you sure that's not Straxus with big glowy axe in panel 4?

News Credits: 2 · by **Moonbase2** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:03 pm

Sloptank wrote:Anybody notice the headline on the newspaper held by the guy in the housecoat in Devastation? Neat little cross-series pop.

Yeah, as well as the Bumblebee flying through the air. Did anyone else notice Botcon Bld or whatever? lol

And Devastation #2 was absolutely delicious.

News Credits: 1 · by **bookofjunon** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:16 am

AxiomScion wrote:
Caelus wrote:
God Magnus wrote:
bookofjunon wrote:What I want to know is, in Megatron Origins #4 when Starscream is being tried, where the hell did Soundwave come from. He's not in the panels before and then WHAMO, there he is in a panel.

He's the security guy standing off to the side in the previous pannel.

I still don't see him...
you sure that's not Straxus with big glowy axe in panel 4?

Soundwave is not in the panels before at all. The sudden appearance is just ridiculous. It makes no sense.

News Credits: 5 · by **God Magnus** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:52 am

bookofjunon wrote:
AxiomScion wrote:
Caelus wrote:
God Magnus wrote:
bookofjunon wrote:What I want to know is, in Megatron Origins #4 when Starscream is being tried, where the hell did Soundwave come from. He's not in the panels before and then WHAMO, there he is in a panel.

He's the security guy standing off to the side in the previous pannel.

I still don't see him...
you sure that's not Straxus with big glowy axe in panel 4?

Soundwave is not in the panels before at all. The sudden appearance is just ridiculous. It makes no sense.

Regardless of whom it's supposed to be, my brain will translate that guy into Soundwave so it does make sense. Or maybe Starscream just had Soundwave in his pocket.

News Credits: 2 · by **partholon** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:33 am

Counterpunch wrote:Things I know:

1. If Sunstreaker is beaten down enough that he asks to be killed...**** is serious.

2. When Sunstreaker gets out of this jam. Things are going to die ala Butch in Pulp Fiction.

now thats what im looking forward to. i reckon all this is prologue for sunstreaker to have him deliver one massive smackdown. the guy came off as arrogant and egotistical in escalation but thanks to what the machinations inflicted were gonna see psycho in the payback dept soon and i for one am looking forward to it :grin: