-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
1337W422102 wrote:Why are references to Arcee's being female put in quotation marks?
waaaaghlord wrote:I find myself hoping that Furman hasn't given Arcee a totally unique backstory given that we've already had a cameo from Elita-1 in Origin. It would be a shame if all this finely interwoven tapestry that we call the Furmanverse starts to unravel now that other people are being entrusted with writing elements of it.
Leonardo wrote:waaaaghlord wrote:I find myself hoping that Furman hasn't given Arcee a totally unique backstory given that we've already had a cameo from Elita-1 in Origin. It would be a shame if all this finely interwoven tapestry that we call the Furmanverse starts to unravel now that other people are being entrusted with writing elements of it.
I'm hoping that Ryall and Taylor have enough of a grip on the editorial reigns to keep everything in check. Hoping.
i_amtrunks wrote:1337W422102 wrote:Why are references to Arcee's being female put in quotation marks?
I think that is Furman's way of getting around the "gender issues" in Transformers. He has stated he is not a fan, also references some of his Marvel UK stuff "Prime's Rib" in his blog article stated how awkward he is with the idea of Machines with no means of human like reproduction having genders.
Sarri wrote:i_amtrunks wrote:1337W422102 wrote:Why are references to Arcee's being female put in quotation marks?
I think that is Furman's way of getting around the "gender issues" in Transformers. He has stated he is not a fan, also references some of his Marvel UK stuff "Prime's Rib" in his blog article stated how awkward he is with the idea of Machines with no means of human like reproduction having genders.
Does he do it to the "he"s, too, or are there male robots, but no female robots?
Sarri wrote:Does he do it to the "he"s, too, or are there male robots, but no female robots?
Wolfguard wrote:Pretty sure most bots have a distinctly male voice and (aside from Soundwave) do not sound monotone, i.e. genderless.
Wolfguard wrote:Plus Cybertronians tend to have two arms, two legs, often times humanoid faces and body structures with a distinctly male appearance. Let's not even get into their personalities...
"in his blog article stated how awkward he is with the idea of Machines with no means of human like reproduction having genders."
Setting aside ALL the other human aspects Transformers tend to have, with regards to the continuation of life, the fact there's more than just "human" methods of reproduction on our own world is enough for me to be able to deal with that concept.
i_amtrunks wrote:Wolfguard wrote:Pretty sure most bots have a distinctly male voice and (aside from Soundwave) do not sound monotone, i.e. genderless.
That is because when they are given voices, they are given human voice actors. It also helps to give the Transformers characters, if every transformer in every animated show was given flat monotonous voices it would be a dull dull show.
Simon Furman has only stated that he is not at all comfortable with the idea of the Transformers having Gender's, and that he does not like the idea much. Since he is writing the series, whatever he thinks is what will happen.
i_amtrunks wrote:Sarri wrote:Does he do it to the "he"s, too, or are there male robots, but no female robots?
I believe he uses "He", "his" and other male terms, but mainly to ease confusion about who is talking about whom, what etc. The other option would be to use "it", "that" or writing the characters name over and over again.
Leonardo wrote:I understand what you mean. I was trying to say the same thing, that by calling them 'it' there's the possibility that it robs them of their personality.
Leonardo wrote:I understand what you mean. I was trying to say the same thing, that by calling them 'it' there's the possibility that it robs them of their personality.
Sarri wrote:Leonardo wrote:I understand what you mean. I was trying to say the same thing, that by calling them 'it' there's the possibility that it robs them of their personality.
But calling Arcee a quote-unquote "she" does the same, and in a way is even worse, because it singles Arcee out of all the other Transformers who are allowed to have personalities without such a hubhub.
Furman might as well just used the male pronoun for Arcee, is consistent with the rest of the Transformers pronouns and avoids is gender issue.
Leonardo wrote:Sarri wrote:Leonardo wrote:I understand what you mean. I was trying to say the same thing, that by calling them 'it' there's the possibility that it robs them of their personality.
But calling Arcee a quote-unquote "she" does the same, and in a way is even worse, because it singles Arcee out of all the other Transformers who are allowed to have personalities without such a hubhub.
Furman might as well just used the male pronoun for Arcee, is consistent with the rest of the Transformers pronouns and avoids is gender issue.
I concur, in a way. I think he should either call her a she without the quotation marks, call them all a he or call them all an it (which it might be too late for if he's already used the word 'he' in an actual comic).
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