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News Credits: 39 · by **DevastaTTor** » Fri May 01, 2009 8:50 pm

Transformerslive.blogspot.com has an interesting update on the ShoWest footage regarding the Ravage character, namely Ravage's alt mode. This rumor/speculation goes against what some believe about the character's Earthly form but since it could be true, it is a potentially big spoiler. To read the article, check out the article at the link below:

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/20 ... owest.html

News Credits: 1 · by **tech348** » Fri May 01, 2009 9:44 pm

After reading all of that I'm getting really excited for the midnight showing.

by **Prime Riblet** » Fri May 01, 2009 10:42 pm

I am getting really excited about this event. hugely.

by **Deadpool's Lame Joke** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:10 am

I'm starting to wonder if they will do the same thing they did with the first movie...like how they released it on July 2nd. Because I really want my tickets!!1!!!!

News Credits: 63 · by **First Gen** » Sat May 02, 2009 9:33 am

Ahh man. There's one part that I read that if its really true will make me mad.

Worse than kicking a man when he's down. The ultimate insult. :-x

by **neliz** » Sat May 02, 2009 9:54 am

man, it's the same rumour and weak-sauce "concept" as last year. wake up newscrew!

News Credits: 39 · by **DevastaTTor** » Sat May 02, 2009 12:42 pm

neliz wrote:man, it's the same rumour and weak-sauce "concept" as last year. wake up newscrew!

The pretender part is definitely the same as before-little doubt that Alice is a Pretender. Some of us thought she'd be a different, Frenzy-like bot (which still may be the case. However, if she does wind up being Ravage, it will be interesting to see how that all plays out on screen.

News Credits: 7 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:25 pm

Ravage better not be a pretender. That would be retarded. But then again every other concept in this movie is so if it does turn out to be true i wont be surprised. The Barricade being back thing better be true. He was one of the only decent bots from the first movie. The soundwave concept is cool and actually makes sence. Glad to see they didnt screw him up as badly as all the others. But that all depends if they give him a crap earth mode or not. If he even survives that long. Think about it.

News Credits: 1 · by **omega666** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:36 pm

I wanted to read about Ravage. The WHOLE article was a spoiler so I stopped reading. :-x

by **OrangeChicken505** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:29 pm

I'm totally bummed out because this alludes to something that if you watch the trailer, might actually be true. And if it is, I'm going to be upset. If soundwave is indeed the fourth transformer that goes to resurrect megatron, he must be the one who gives up his spark to revive him. The three constructicons are clearly standing over megatron as you see his spark "reviving" in the trailer. The fourth transformer, whoever he is, is no longer standing there. Therefore he must sacrifice himself for megatron. Soundwave would do that considering his loyalty to megatron. Which would explain why we've yet to see him in the trailers at all: because he's barely in the movie. Enter me being totally upset because I was looking forward to soundwave being a total badass.

News Credits: 35 · by **Savage** » Sat May 02, 2009 2:42 pm

You know what drives me nuts? Supposed Dreamworks, ILM, or other movie industry people who can't write a coherent post to save their lives. It's called grammar, people, and it has rules. I'm not saying I expect perfection, but none of these supposed movie industry employees exhibited anything close to the communication skills one would expect of a professional. Maybe they're fans who got an inside scoop and figured more people would believe them if they pretended to work in the industry. I'm not saying these rumors are false, but if they're true, I just lost even more respect for Hollywood.

by **Prime Riblet** » Sat May 02, 2009 6:36 pm

Savage wrote:You know what drives me nuts? Supposed Dreamworks, ILM, or other movie industry people who can't write a coherent post to save their lives. It's called grammar, people, and it has rules. I'm not saying I expect perfection, but none of these supposed movie industry employees exhibited anything close to the communication skills one would expect of a professional. Maybe they're fans who got an inside scoop and figured more people would believe them if they pretended to work in the industry. I'm not saying these rumors are false, but if they're true, I just lost even more respect for Hollywood.

That is a very good post, and I totally agree.

News Credits: 4 · by **Archanubis** » Sat May 02, 2009 7:36 pm

OrangeChicken505 wrote:I'm totally bummed out because this alludes to something that if you watch the trailer, might actually be true. And if it is, I'm going to be upset. If soundwave is indeed the fourth transformer that goes to resurrect megatron, he must be the one who gives up his spark to revive him. The three constructicons are clearly standing over megatron as you see his spark "reviving" in the trailer. The fourth transformer, whoever he is, is no longer standing there. Therefore he must sacrifice himself for megatron. Soundwave would do that considering his loyalty to megatron. Which would explain why we've yet to see him in the trailers at all: because he's barely in the movie. Enter me being totally upset because I was looking forward to soundwave being a total badass.

Considering Soundwave is extremely popular with fans, I don't see how the writers would bring him in for 10min of film, then kill him off, expecially since the other Decepticons would see him as strategically valuable beyond the role stated in the post. Then again, sillier things have happened.

by **Evil_the_Nub** » Sat May 02, 2009 10:38 pm

Do we know for sure that there is a pretender in the movie? Like someone else said before, it was a bad idea in the 80's and it's a worse idea now.

News Credits: 3 · by **ShGarland_1383** » Sat May 02, 2009 11:04 pm

omega666 wrote:I wanted to read about Ravage. The WHOLE article was a spoiler so I stopped reading.

Didn't even bother trying. Just scrolled through to see some of the graphics. Based on that concept of Soundwave and Ravage, I kind of wonder of Ravage becomes what amounts Soundwave's engine for that version of the toy, the way I feel Frenzy did for Barricade.

Megatron_Wolf wrote:The Barricade being back thing better be true. He was one of the only decent bots from the first movie.

I would like to see Barricade back too. There's room for it I think; he'd disappeared by the time the final battle began, the way I remember it.

News Credits: 223 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun May 03, 2009 11:59 am

Thank goodness Alice =/= Ravage.

News Credits: 2 · by **partholon** » Sun May 03, 2009 1:04 pm

im starting to think alice/isobel is laserbeak.

even the two names make a half assed acronym for it

big news for me is soundwave doing a teletran one. its brilliant ! and a nice nod to the comics/cartoon.

i cant wait to see this now as while the first one was fun it made no sense. this one actually looks to have a decent story to it and has some lovely references to the gimmicks like pretenders.

one of the things i liked about TF was the arms race aspect to it so its fun to see it here with the combiners.

oh and seeing as there was a reference to a seventh constucticon that we havent seen doesnt it make sense that he's the one to pony up the spark for megatron?

just a thought.

by **St. Even** » Tue May 05, 2009 2:13 pm

I am sticking to my notion that Ravage is Megatron's arm cannon.

I also like the idea that Alice is Laserbeak. I think her inner con is one in the same with the puppet seen on the hood of the silver Saturn. That puppet was very bird like. Nice call.

News Credits: 223 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue May 05, 2009 5:18 pm

St. Even wrote:

I am sticking to my notion that Ravage is Megatron's arm cannon.

I also like the idea that Alice is Laserbeak. I think her inner con is one in the same with the puppet seen on the hood of the silver Saturn. That puppet was very bird like. Nice call.

More like Soundwave's missile.

Actually, that does look more like the "Entry Modes" the Protoform toys from the first film had.

by **St. Even** » Tue May 05, 2009 7:47 pm

I am sticking to my guns here. I have thought Ravage is Megatron's arm cannon ever since the second image was "leaked." Now that the toy is shown, in what could be Megatron's cannon I am even more convinced. Just my thoughts, though.

by **St. Even** » Tue May 05, 2009 7:50 pm

Something else to consider...if what I think is true it makes Ravage 100% weapon--in both modes. A massive metal cat-like thing is not going to be much of a robot in disguise.

News Credits: 3 · by **Autobot Firestorm** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:17 pm

St. Even wrote:

I am sticking to my guns here. I have thought Ravage is Megatron's arm cannon ever since the second image was "leaked." Now that the toy is shown, in what could be Megatron's cannon I am even more convinced. Just my thoughts, though.

OK - so I've been going over the latest trailer (in HD via QuickTime), and this is what I've come up with.....

I noticed that if you start at frame 2563 thru 2574, Megatron is firing at something offscreen. At frame 2575, he's hit with a large explosion causing him to drop the "gun" he's firing. If you watch the "gun" fall (frames 2574-2597) you see that it looks very much like Ravage's alt mode and less like Megatron's arm.

After studying this, I believe Ravage's alt mode isn't Megatron's arm cannon.....but is that of a gatling gun. If you're not sure what one is, watch 'The Matrix.' It unleashes serious destruction via a hailstorm of ammo.

Here's a pic of one, just for flavor. :-P