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News Credits: 5 · by **Oilspill** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:16 am

Ohhh... can't buy this? Damn.

Looks very nice indeed.

News Credits: 4 · by **Firebird** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:26 am

tarZen wrote:From Mastercollectables.com:

1. Is Nova Commander going to be mass produced?
The short answer is No. The reasons are the following.

This is not for sale.

Lame

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:43 pm

Firebird wrote:
tarZen wrote:From Mastercollectables.com:

1. Is Nova Commander going to be mass produced?
The short answer is No. The reasons are the following.

This is not for sale.

Lame

Hugely. I would've committed crimes to get enough money for a finished product like this.

News Credits: 2 · by **Convotron** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:49 pm

Mkall wrote:
Firebird wrote:
tarZen wrote:From Mastercollectables.com:

1. Is Nova Commander going to be mass produced?
The short answer is No. The reasons are the following.

This is not for sale.

Lame

Hugely. I would've committed crimes to get enough money for a finished product like this.

I don't think it's lame due to the following reasons, which are more extensive than simply them deciding not to mass produce the figure:

J.C and the team@ mastercollectables.com wrote:a. Mastercollectables was started by a few Mecha collectors. We just have the same passion and we met up over coffee and just brainstormed. As usual we had ideas and concepts on paper so each of us decided to put our abilities into the partnership. We consider ourself a designer startup. Minimal external funding for our projects. We enjoy what we're doing for the fans. Thus to mass produce Nova Commander frankly is beyond our current financial capabilities. We have our day jobs and just pour in our extra time and some pooled funds to get some of our small projects going.

b. The Nova Commander pictures that you see was designed for the purpose of testing certain engineering designs for joints especially for larger mecha. We do envy the designing skills of Studio Half Eye. Their engineering is fantastic and even themselves after producing so many fantastic resin engineering designer toys have decided to focus on - designing and kits. To just do complete resin toys was time consuming and costly. For e.g a Perfect Transformation Getter-1 is like 500USD when it first came out..and we consider SHE to be close to the best and this was from an established company.

c. Mastercollectables is a very small team with limited resources. We do not have the resources to mass produce this. To mass produce this would mean metal tooling which would cost in the area of 150-200K or more depending on complexity.

d. Why is Nova Commander so difficult and costly to produce?
1. It's large.
2. Lots of parts - Close to 200 parts. The more parts for a resin toy..the more expensive to cast,mold, reproduce and build.

e. So any ETA if it's even produced?
At this moment we're still in the contemplation mode, doing testing and using Nova as a engineering test sample so we can safely say No ETA.

f. Then why sell the prototype testshot on ebay?
It's our way to "fund" this difficult project as we go along in "refining it" for future projects. We hope our fans would like our products and support it their way.

News Credits: 4 · by **Firebird** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:12 pm

Thanks for the info Convotron, I didn't see that text last time I was on their website.

Still it begs the question of why they would even make a resin Nova Prime prototype (or "Commander" as all the cool 3rd party guys are calling them) when they have no plans to actually produce them in a sizable quantity. They say that SHE is an inspiration of theirs, And they make awesome things (like for example their perfect change Gunbuster that I want immensely) but they still produce enough to sell a sizable quantity that although they are fairly expensive people still would have the chance to purchase them from online stores.

I understand they are making something this awesome to gather attention to themselves, raise capital for their next project, and perhaps even advertise their Wheeljack kit also featured on their blog.

News Credits: 2 · by **Convotron** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:38 pm

Firebird wrote:Thanks for the info Convotron, I didn't see that text last time I was on their website.

Still it begs the question of why they would even make a resin Nova Prime prototype (or "Commander" as all the cool 3rd party guys are calling them) when they have no plans to actually produce them in a sizable quantity. They say that SHE is an inspiration of theirs, And they make awesome things (like for example their perfect change Gunbuster that I want immensely) but they still produce enough to sell a sizable quantity that although they are fairly expensive people still would have the chance to purchase them from online stores.

I understand they are making something this awesome to gather attention to themselves, raise capital for their next project, and perhaps even advertise their Wheeljack kit also featured on their blog.

The NP prototype was basically a test exercise for the folks at MC to try out design concepts according to their post regarding the prototype's availability for sale.

I think they certainly could make the Nova Prime kit in a limited run but I can't imagine how much they would have to sell each figure for to break even for the time and cost of the production. I speculate that they may want to take things a little slow and mainly raise capital and build their reputation up with the Wheeljack kit and by showing off their Nova Prime prototype.

I'm not an expert by any means but the only 3rd party producer for Transformers I know of that has consistent productivity and quality is FransProject and look at how long it took them to attempt a full figure toy design.

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:52 pm

"Hi all

I guess this is all you've been waiting for. Nova Commander super-mode!!

Apparently, China is making things that I didn't even know I wanted yet.

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:34 pm

Ok, that is 100% Daks Nova.

I wonder if Dak is MasterCollector?

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:14 pm

Down_Shift wrote:Ok, that is 100% Daks Nova.

I wonder if Dak is MasterCollector?

Maybe he has a hand in it. He said over at TFW that he's spoken with them and he's cool about it.

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:27 am

Mkall wrote:
Down_Shift wrote:Ok, that is 100% Daks Nova.

I wonder if Dak is MasterCollector?

Maybe he has a hand in it. He said over at TFW that he's spoken with them and he's cool about it.

Well if he's cool with it, I'm cool with it. I hate to see a friends hard work go flat out un-thanked and un-recognized.

I hope he's getting something for his time and effort, that which MC clearly lack.

Phak, I'm still angry over this.

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:45 pm

Well crap, now I want it and know I can't have it. Oh well, money saved. :mrgreen:

Still drooling over this though.

by **AirForceBot** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:48 am

I am really liking the design on this one. I am keeping my fingers crossed, as it has a sort of TransTech feel to it. :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 2 · by **Requiem Prime** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:14 pm

Guns and god-mode wings; very nice. At the moment there's only 1 proof of concept toy being made. I do hope they produce some more, even a very limited run would light the fandom on fire.

by **Nemesis251** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:52 pm

Any more info regarding this or from MasterCollectors? I've been wondering for a while now.

News Credits: 5 · by **Overcracker** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:00 pm

According to their Blog: http://mastercollectors.blogspot.com/

They were putting together some sets in May.

by **Nemesis251** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:28 pm

That's the last info I saw too. Hope more info comes up. I really want to see the final product.

News Credits: 1235 · by **LOST Cybertronian** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:02 pm

Nemesis251 wrote:Any more info regarding this or from MasterCollectors? I've been wondering for a while now.

If I remember correctly they put together 10 of them. It sold out very fast at $500 apiece. They said there were too many parts to be able to mass produce them.