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News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:57 am

Takara's Henkei will continue under the name Transformers United. If you missed out on Henkei Voyager Megatron, or Bumblebee, this line offers you a second chance at them. If you like metallic shine on your figures, then much of the United figures have it too. And to top it all off, our first look at Generations/United Cliffjumper. Courtesy of TFW2005, check out some of the new images below!

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News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:01 am

Cliffjumper looks great, though I would prefer him in Hasbro colors.

by **Hal7300** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:05 am

El Duque wrote:Cliffjumper looks great, though I would prefer him in Hasbro colors.

Ditto, not a fan of the metallic paint either.

by **EyeOfTheTigatron** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:08 am

CJ has two Megsys to shoot the faceplate off of them now :lol:

OOOHH SHINY PAINT 8-}

News Credits: 8 · by **Powermaster Jazz** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:11 am

That Classics Megatron re-release looks better without the chrome

News Credits: 3 · by **Emperor Galvatron** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:18 am

I know the head will fit, I just wonder if it'll look okay on Classic CJ's body.

News Credits: 3 · by **Midnight_Fox** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:20 am

I like Chromey Classics Megs, will have to pick him up.

by **Duskfall** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:23 am

the wfc megatron looks so much better, hoping to see what they did to prime.

News Credits: 5 · by **--B--** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:29 am

Is it just me, or does Cliffjumper look...girly?

I already have henkei Megs, so that's a pass, and I don't love the WFC Megs, so I'm import free on this set!

But yeah, Cliffy looks a bit too feminine for some reason.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:30 am

Powermaster Jazz wrote:That Classics Megatron re-release looks better without the chrome

You sure? *Compares his Henkei Megs with United Megs* Nope, I'm not seeing things. Megatron has not only lost the chrome, but a lot of paint apps as well.

Bumblebee is just perfect: no chrome, no stripes, just plain yellow. Actually makes me glad I missed out on him. The rest I'll just skip and get the Hasbro versions instead. By the by, would the use of the Deluxe mold for Optimus Prime be a sign that the Voyager mold has degraded beyond use?

News Credits: 3 · by **Jazz-1982** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:36 am

Megatron's paint looks better this time around but I still wish they had decked him out in silver like the G1 toy. Now that would have been a real improvement.

I quite like the look of Cliffjumper, he's a bit on the thin side but the head looks nice.

I think you may well be right about Optimus, it would certainly explain why Takara Tomy haven't released Ultra Magnus, Nemesis Prime or Sleep mode Prime.

News Credits: 8 · by **Powermaster Jazz** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:37 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Powermaster Jazz wrote:That Classics Megatron re-release looks better without the chrome

You sure? *Compares his Henkei Megs with United Megs* Nope, I'm not seeing things. Megatron has not only lost the chrome, but a lot of paint apps as well.

Well i think he looks better, to each is own

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:00 am

I'm guessing that these are the deluxe OP and BB molds that were found in Wal-Mart's computer system yesterday.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:02 am

I believe this mean that the Generations G1 Prime and Bumblebee in the wallmart computers will be the same as these.

Also I think the henkei version of Megatron is still the best use of that mold.

News Credits: 36 · by **Pretender Skywarp** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:05 am

What Megs Mould is that? The original Classics Voyager one or the Hasbro "special edition" one?

I've confused myself again.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:06 am

Pretender Skywarp wrote:What Megs Mould is that? The original Classics Voyager one or the Hasbro "special edition" one?

I've confused myself again.

I said "Voyager". The Deluxe one is a tank, inspired by G2.

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:17 am

WFC Megs is fantastic! Why does it seem to blow away the HASBRO one?

News Credits: 17 · by **cannonfodder4000** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:20 am

whats with the takara and their new found love of shiny paint >.>

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:21 am

cannonfodder4000 wrote:whats with the takara and their new found love of shiny paint >.>

New found?

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:25 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Powermaster Jazz wrote:That Classics Megatron re-release looks better without the chrome

You sure? *Compares his Henkei Megs with United Megs* Nope, I'm not seeing things. Megatron has not only lost the chrome, but a lot of paint apps as well.

Bumblebee is just perfect: no chrome, no stripes, just plain yellow. Actually makes me glad I missed out on him. The rest I'll just skip and get the Hasbro versions instead. By the by, would the use of the Deluxe mold for Optimus Prime be a sign that the Voyager mold has degraded beyond use?

Agreed on United/Henkei Megs. Too many missing paint apps, but still a good option for those who missed out on Henkei. I might pick up United WFC Megs if comparison shots turn out to be highly favorable. The rest I'll probably pass on, although Soundwave looks tempting.

I don't think this means the Classics Voyager mold is unusable, because the Seeker mold is still in use. This may just be a sign that the Prime & Bee listings at Walmart are in fact rereleases of the deluxes.

by **Joker'sRequiem** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:31 am

Cliffjumper looks good, so hopefully his US release turns out to be comparable. I may still pass on him, unless I get a lot of the things on my wish list first.

The re-issue of BB is great news for me. I missed out on the entire line, so BB will be a buy on sight. I'm not too pumped for Prime though. I really like his bot mode. But I wish they had re-issued Voyager Prime instead. IMO that Prime has a much better Alt-Mode and fits in better size-wise.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:37 am

I like Cliff a lot better than Bee. New Voyager Megs is ok but I got the Henkei, no need to repeat when theres so many other nice things coming. WFC Megs is much nicer than Hasbro's one. In fact, all the WFC toys look improved.

Straxus wasn't a toy I was overly worried about (if they gave me his head in a jar, as an accessory, I'd love it though) so I can't say I notice much difference. Classics BB is pretty nice, still has silver bumpers, but it's G1 enough colours that I could theoretically be tempted to buy the mold again. Classics Deluxe Prime is pretty cool in those colours too, but I have the first version and can't say I'm overly eager to spend more money on it again (I don't hate it though). Drift looks the same to me.

by **Badassimus Prime** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:37 am

cannonfodder4000 wrote:whats with the takara and their new found love of shiny paint >.>

What's with the western hatred towars metallic paint? Personally, I think it brings out a more in-depth and realistic feel to the metal these characters would don. To each his own in the end but I still don't understand it.

News Credits: 1 · by **Galvatron X** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:39 am

--B-- wrote:Is it just me, or does Cliffjumper look...girly?

Hahaha, I think a sneer or frown would've toughened up his appearance a little, making him look a wee bit more masculine.

Don't get me wrong; I think he looks GREAT! Too bad the US version won't be so shiny (bummer!).

News Credits: 6 · by **Jenus** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:50 am

I'm really liking Cliffjumpers head and the shininess.

All the WFC figures look good, but again why do the keep on insisting to give the figures the silver faction symbol and it's always the Decepticon.

Voyager Megatron sure has lost a lot of paint apps, he'll definitely be a pass.

Drift doesn't look to have any changes, wonder where the shiny is?

Darkmount doesn't look much different either, he should have been a darker blue.

Deluxe Prime actually looks good but I've already told myself no to that mold.

Bumblebee's rerelease looks pretty good I may have to buy him again. Now Takara make cliffjumper and a new head would be great.