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News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:34 pm

Site admin of Michael Bay's Shoot for the Edit forums, nelson, is at it again. Just a couple of days ago he stated the red Ferrari 458 would not be called Mirage in the movie, but would bare the name of a famous Italian and speak with an Italian accent. Now he's decided to give us a little clarification on the identity of the blue Mercedes E550.

For some time now, I've implied through some of my post that Wheelie's sidekick was the Mercedes E550 (the E550 is a whole different character).

It's not.

My bad, my apologies.

Brains is Wheelie's buddy. And what's Brain's alt-mode you ask? You'll have to wait and see.

Now many of you will think he's stating the obvious because we already know the identity of the blue Mercedes E550 to be Wheeljack. Well maybe not. When other Shoot for the Edit members brought up Wheeljack he had this to say:

Has Bay confirmed it's Wheeljack?

Here's your problem: you keep assuming the packaging and novels are the end all, be all. People assume they dictate Bay what storyline to follow, what to name characters, etc.

Until anything is officially confirm here or by Bay in the press, all bets are off.

There's no debate. His name has been chosen for quite some time now.

Speculation? Yes.

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:44 pm

I grow tired of the speculation and am just looking forward to watching a really good (I hope) Transformers movie this summer.

by **Nemesis243** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:47 pm

Nelson is a dick and Bay loves lying to us. Case in point the Mercedes is Wheeljack and the Ferrari is Mirage. I don't care what some guy whose name is "Nelson" says.

by **Evil_the_Nub** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:50 pm

Lapse Of Reason wrote:I grow tired of the speculation and am just looking forward to watching a really good (I hope) Transformers movie this summer.

Me too, everything is starting to contradict what was said before. I'm just going to wait for the movie to find out who's in it.

News Credits: 1 · by **Starscream GaGa** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:57 pm

He also said the Fire Truck isn't Sentinel Prime. Why would ANYONE believe him?

by **Tyrannotaur** » Mon May 30, 2011 11:58 pm

I am now convinced that Nelson's job is Misdirection. Bay sent him out to spread these rumors to generate speculation and interest in the film. I'm just gonna wait for the movie to see what's what.

News Credits: 2 · by **Justicity** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:31 am

The way I see it, the kids are going to know the names of the characters because they buy the toy, and I'm the same. Brawl is still Brawl to me, not Devastator. One line of dialogue isn't going to change the fact that until I saw the movie he was Brawl, and after the movie the packaging still said Brawl.
It's the same here. In my mind books and toy packaging is more concrete than a few lines in the movie, so to me, and I'm sure to any kid that has the toy, they will be called whatever it says on the box.
This whole "Ah, but they're really soandso in the movie!" is childish and petty. Okay, you want your movie to have surprises. That's fine. Don't let plot points leak! But at least give each character one name and stick to it. This IS a kids franchise after all. Why make it so confusing for a bunch of children that just want to play with toys and see their toys on the big screen?

"Mummy, mummy, buy me Mario and Cleverbot for Christmas!"
"Yeah sure." "Hmm, they only have Mirage and Wheeljack? No Mario or Cleverbot anywhere. Oh well, I'll get him that educational dictionary instead."

News Credits: 3 · by **Autobot Firestorm** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:31 am

First Nelson is a grade A jag bag. The ferarri is supposed to have an Italian name......when did Transformers take on human names? The accents are bad enough. This Mercedes will be Wheeljack, have the freaked out hair like Einstein, and will have a thick German accent. The Ferrari is Mirage (not Mario, Dario, or Donatello) and have an Italian accent. The Wreckers already have the stereotypical NASCAR fan characteristics - Topspin has a mullet, Roadbuster wears a baseball cap and sunglasses, and Leadfoot has a beergut. Can't wait for the Southern drawl. I just want to know - if Danica Patrick was racing NASCAR this year - would we get a female robot in Daisy Dukes? If we thought the Twins were stereotypical in ROTF - this movie is really shaping up to be a cluster &@€%.

Get JJ Abrams to do the reboot. Then people will get a good story and keep us guessing without the misinformation BS.

-- AF

News Credits: 10 · by **Trikeboy** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:57 am

Whatever, Michael Bay (aka Nelson) can talk all he wants. I'm sure Hasbro are very happy that he will cause them to rename thousands of dollars worth of toys for a name in the movie. Devastator was supposed to be called Brawl in the first movie. Unless we are supposed to believe the tank in the first movie was rebuilt into a hulking combiner that the Autobots have been unable to take down but one shot from a huma weapon can do just fine. Why bother trying to lie at this late stage? The movie is out in a month. We will see soon.

News Credits: 1 · by **Starscream GaGa** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:26 am

The Blue Mercedes is Wheeljack
The Ferrari is Mirage
The Silver Mercedes is Soundwave
Sentinel Prime is the main villain, not Shockwave
Silverbolt is not in the movie

The ONLY crap they've pulled that might of actually done is the Twins being removed, but I highly doubt it. I'm sure they will be in the movie.

Seriously, its too late to pull the misinformation crap. Nelson also talks like a total prick.

by **Captziltoid** » Tue May 31, 2011 1:58 am

brains.......... hahahahahahahahahahahahaha omg i just peed my diaper.

News Credits: 2 · by **Twitchythe3rd** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:30 am

I can sum this up with one line from Invader Zim:

"LIIIIIES! THE FILTHY EARTH BOY LIIIIIES!"

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Tue May 31, 2011 4:48 am

Just more misdirection. If it's already published in the official novels then it's cannon. We know that, the rest if the internet knows that, and Nelson knows that. He's just trying to stir the pot until the movie comes out in a month. Or the game in two weeks.

News Credits: 2 · by **Stockade** » Tue May 31, 2011 5:50 am

since Bay lies alot about most of everything that deals with his Transformer movies, makes you wonder if the Dinobots are in it, since he said they would be stupid and wouldn't know where or how to fit them into the film? But its amazing how he can bring Sen Prime into the film along with Laserbeak and many others.

News Credits: 1 · by **Starscream GaGa** » Tue May 31, 2011 7:50 am

Stockade wrote:since Bay lies alot about most of everything that deals with his Transformer movies, makes you wonder if the Dinobots are in it, since he said they would be stupid and wouldn't know where or how to fit them into the film? But its amazing how he can bring Sen Prime into the film along with Laserbeak and many others.

No it doesn't.

News Credits: 5 · by **RodimalToyota** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:48 am

This is just stupid. Hasbro decides the names, it's there baby and thier toys.
Nelson is trying to pretend Bay has more power then he does in production.

Clearly it's wheeljack, and the red Ferrari is Mirage.
Otherwise Bay pisses off everyone who has any work already into the DOTM franchise.
From comics, to graphic Novels, to books... The awnsers are already there.

by **morphobots** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:08 am

RodimalToyota wrote:This is just stupid. Hasbro decides the names, it's there baby and thier toys.
Nelson is trying to pretend Bay has more power then he does in production.

Clearly it's wheeljack, and the red Ferrari is Mirage.
Otherwise Bay pisses off everyone who has any work already into the DOTM franchise.
From comics, to graphic Novels, to books... The awnsers are already there.

Amen. At this point, I don't care about the names because we already know Bay pulls them out of a hat. But they need to stay consistent throughout the media, and he should at least have the courtesy to provide that. Supposedly he overruled Orci and Kurtzman on the first film at the last minute because Devastator sounded cooler to him than Brawl did. Fast forward: "Hey, we made so much money now we can make a second film with that big guy . . . oops. Ahh, call him Defensor!"

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Tue May 31, 2011 9:36 am

Nemesis243 wrote:I don't care what some guy whose name is "Nelson" says.

If that is indeed his real name!

Yeah, lets just get on with it and see the film.

News Credits: 1 · by **D-340** » Tue May 31, 2011 10:10 am

RodimalToyota wrote:This is just stupid. Hasbro decides the names, it's there baby and thier toys.
Nelson is trying to pretend Bay has more power then he does in production.

^This.

That's why I always lol when ever these douche warehouses speak on stuff like this. They act like they got all the stroke, HA! I wish Hasbro would see this kinda stuff, so they could see the mentality of the people working on their franchise. Not like it would change anything now, but for the next go around.

News Credits: 4 · by **BluePhirePB** » Tue May 31, 2011 10:25 am

More misinformation. Having that said, should we all go to Defcon-Delta if this happens?:

Nelson:

"Transformers: Dark of the Moon is the best of the trilogy."

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Tue May 31, 2011 12:46 pm

I've been thinking of renaming them all anyway. There should be a special feature on the DVD where each Transformer character is randomly replaced by another one, or a shot of a bunch of scrap metal, and you have to take a drink if you can tell the difference.

by **DarkEnergon** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:40 pm

And why did Jetfire have a british accent too? That made absolutely no sense at all. He must have been doing lots of stealth spy missions over London before he retired?

News Credits: 6 · by **BeastProwl** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:50 pm

Autobot Firestorm wrote:First Nelson is a grade A jag bag. The ferarri is supposed to have an Italian name......when did Transformers take on human names? The accents are bad enough. This Mercedes will be Wheeljack, have the freaked out hair like Einstein, and will have a thick German accent. The Ferrari is Mirage (not Mario, Dario, or Donatello) and have an Italian accent. The Wreckers already have the stereotypical NASCAR fan characteristics - Topspin has a mullet, Roadbuster wears a baseball cap and sunglasses, and Leadfoot has a beergut. Can't wait for the Southern drawl. I just want to know - if Danica Patrick was racing NASCAR this year - would we get a female robot in Daisy Dukes? If we thought the Twins were stereotypical in ROTF - this movie is really shaping up to be a cluster &@€%.

Get JJ Abrams to do the reboot. Then people will get a good story and keep us guessing without the misinformation BS.

-- AF

Exactely what ive been saying about the steriotyping!
Why would an autobot go through all the trouble to purposely scan a ferrari then learn how to speak english in an italian accent?
Answer:
STERIOTYPES IS STERIOTYPES!
Nascar Bros
Mirage
Wheeljack
Skids
Mudflap
Jazz (Though he was AWESOME!)
and some people say Ironhide, but, well.... He's Ironhide!

News Credits: 1 · by **T-Macksimus** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:23 pm

Starscream GaGa wrote:The Blue Mercedes is Wheeljack
The Ferrari is Mirage
The Silver Mercedes is Soundwave
Sentinel Prime is the main villain, not Shockwave
Silverbolt is not in the movie

The ONLY crap they've pulled that might of actually done is the Twins being removed, but I highly doubt it. I'm sure they will be in the movie.

Seriously, its too late to pull the misinformation crap. Nelson also talks like a total prick.

OK since I wasn't the first to post this I'm not going to feel the slightest bit bad confirming this. The above listing, according to the novel, is accurate and yes the Twins will be in it and, as much as I HATE those two A**-hats, it will be worth it to tolerate them for the short time they are in it. Trust me, you will love what goes down with the twins if, in fact, they stay true to the screen-play. Thunderous applause will erupt and folks will stand and cheer and that's all I'm gonna say about it.

So yeah, Nelson is feeding us a load of crap at every turn but this nothing of a surprise to anybody. If you are going to follow the posts on that site, bring a shovel.

News Credits: 1 · by **Starscream GaGa** » Tue May 31, 2011 8:27 pm

T-Macksimus wrote:
Starscream GaGa wrote:The Blue Mercedes is Wheeljack
The Ferrari is Mirage
The Silver Mercedes is Soundwave
Sentinel Prime is the main villain, not Shockwave
Silverbolt is not in the movie

The ONLY crap they've pulled that might of actually done is the Twins being removed, but I highly doubt it. I'm sure they will be in the movie.

Seriously, its too late to pull the misinformation crap. Nelson also talks like a total prick.

OK since I wasn't the first to post this I'm not going to feel the slightest bit bad confirming this. The above listing, according to the novel, is accurate and yes the Twins will be in it and, as much as I HATE those two A**-hats, it will be worth it to tolerate them for the short time they are in it. Trust me, you will love what goes down with the twins if, in fact, they stay true to the screen-play. Thunderous applause will erupt and folks will stand and cheer and that's all I'm gonna say about it.

So yeah, Nelson is feeding us a load of crap at every turn but this nothing of a surprise to anybody. If you are going to follow the posts on that site, bring a shovel.

The thing about how the Twins may not actually be in it is because Paramount also stated they were removed from the movie, rather then just not in it. Its possible that they had to change the scene in which the Twins are in it because they were told that they were unsuitable for the movie. While I personally think they'll still be there, the fact that it wasn't just Bay and his d-bag Nelson that said it, its still up in the air wether or not they'll make an appearance.

The rest however, is all true and Nelson knows it. He's just trying to keep the water stirred until the movie is released.