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News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:28 am

Have you been waiting eagerly and hungrily for news on iGear's upcoming Brawn and Cosmos homages, did you want to know just how much they will cost you?
Well, now you get both at the same time, iGear have updated their store with pre-order pages on both figures.
Both cost US$ 33.99 and are slated to be available on the 15.07.2012. Click the following links and or images to get to their respective pre-order pages for more information.

MW-03 Hench (Brawn)
This is 12 cm high in robot mode, which translates to 4.75 inches

MW-04 UFO (Cosmos)
This is 10 cm high in robot-mode which translates to 3.95 inches.

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News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:32 am

Awesome, they're also just in my "still OK to buy" pricing, but I won't pre-order them now, that still has time.

I wonder what the stand for Cosmos will look like?

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:24 am

Not impressed by the new price. Does a couple extra inches really justify a 120% price increase?

Dead Metal wrote:I wonder what the stand for Cosmos will look like?

I'm assuming it's the black hexagonal base with clear arm shown in the last photo on the product listing. It looks more compact than the all black one partially shown in the first few photos.

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:55 am

Those prices are absurd. Gimme a break.

News Credits: 4 · by **KnightStrike** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:33 am

Okay I haven't had my coffee yet, so at first I thought, since the previous minis have been $15 pre-orders from iGear, that $33.99 for both meant you got both for that price. After clicking the links to pre-order I came to the dawning realization that these guys just took a huge price jump. I had been waiting for these to be on order for ages, but now I don't know if I will be getting them. Their Seaspray and Huffer were great and all, but they are Legends class at best, not sure I want to pay $34 bucks a pop for figures where one is a tad over Legends and one is a tad under Scout. I know they are third party and all and have to recoup costs, but is the amount of extra plastic used really going to cause that much price increase? I assumed these would be more expensive than the previous two, but I was thinking $20-22 pre-order price range max.

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:10 am

Sorry, that's too expensive for such tiny figures.

I was thinking about only collecting 3rd party figures as they have been so good of late but if the prices are going to be stupid high then I think my collecting days are over until we start seeing some new Generations/Universe stuff.

by **Swindle01** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:27 am

why are these so exepensive when compared to seaspray and huffer?

did i miss something or what?

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:28 am

My guess is they probably lost money on the first two, hence the radical price jump to make up for it.

Unfortunately, it is a bit jarring for the customer to go from $18 to $34.

I'll still be getting these, but they are no longer the value they were.

by **combiner711** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:33 am

What in the name of #@%K!!!! :BANG_HEAD:

33$ each figure?!! Mr.Wallet will be damn dead! :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 104 · by **Cyber Bishop** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:25 am

Wow.. If they are trying to make up for Seaspray and Huffer then they will most definitely will take a hit by raising the prices like this.. I do still plan on picking up Brawn though.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:50 am

$34 each? Sorry, iGear, you lost this customer.

rpetras wrote:Unfortunately, it is a bit jarring for the customer to go from $18 to $34.

If you preordered from iGear, the first two were $15, not $18, which makes this even harder to swallow.

by **Matty327** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:08 am

Way too expensive, no sale.

News Credits: 2 · by **Requiem Prime** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:25 am

This forum seems to be living in an alternate reality where Perfect Effect never existed. Outside of the $30 standard they've set, most other 3P small toys compromise complexity, sculpting, and additions to make a lower price work.

I'll never know if iGear sold the first two at a loss. But I wouldn't be surprised if they raised an eyebrow when we (me and people like me) paid $5+ship more than Spray and Rager for Maketoys' 1st minibot wave, whose toys were smaller and even more limited. Is it hard not to believe they saw that and realized they could not only push a larger price they already know we'll pay, but up the scale and quality to really deserve it?

To say you aren't going to commit is fine, but don't pretend this is a new and horrible trend that must be expunged.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:33 am

Requiem Prime wrote:To say you aren't going to commit is fine, but don't pretend this is a new and horrible trend that must be expunged.

Nobody suggested that. We're just saying it's too much of a price jump from $15 to $34.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:36 am

These are going to be scout sized, aren't they? That helps explain the larger price.

But, yeah. It's quite the jump from $15 for guys we already have decent official versions of. But as much as I said I wasn't going to get ay of them, I did wind up getting "Huffer" and "Seaspray", so I might get these tw as well. We'll see.

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:37 am

Requiem Prime wrote:To say you aren't going to commit is fine, but don't pretend this is a new and horrible trend that must be expunged.

Prices rise but there comes a point where they get to a tipping point where people say no more. You can have your say with your wallet.

by **Rated X** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:44 am

Oh horrors the price went up 14 bucks so now I cant afford them even though I take a plane to botcon every year and blow 500 on a hotel room. :HEADHURTS:

On a better note, the figures look great and Im waiting for BBTS to put their pre-order us no matter what the price, Im all in.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:18 am

Rated X wrote:Oh horrors the price went up 14 bucks so now I cant afford them even though I take a plane to botcon every year and blow 500 on a hotel room.

MANY of us DO NO go to Botcon every year. Some of us never go.

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:44 am

Rated X wrote:Oh horrors the price went up 14 bucks so now I cant afford them even though I take a plane to botcon every year and blow 500 on a hotel room.

Don't be a tool. These are nearly twice the price of the previous two figures. You can't debate that. I buy third party stuff pretty often too but the precedence was set by the previous figures. These are hardly marvels of engineering. So why the price hike? It can not possibly cost twice as much to produce these as before. That price is absurd.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:48 am

I honestly don't know right now if I'll be buying these at this price. Hopefully iGear will see fit to lower the price after all of our feedback.

by **Rated X** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:48 am

GuyIncognito wrote:
Rated X wrote:Oh horrors the price went up 14 bucks so now I cant afford them even though I take a plane to botcon every year and blow 500 on a hotel room.

MANY of us DO NO go to Botcon every year. Some of us never go.

Botcon or not, the long list of people complaining about spending 34 bucks is ridiculous. I could understand if we were talking about a $120 Stepper or a $600 Hercules, but 34 bucks ??? That's the price of a Takara United figure new, which Im sure most of the people on here complaining have a couple of. :-?

News Credits: 23 · by **Prime Evil** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:49 am

I'm in on these guys. I won't rush to preorder, but we have all paid more for less.

Beezelboss/Renderform Goldbug kits cost $30 just for a head and guns. That's without the shipping cost. With this, we are getting a larger size figure from the last two mini's, and very good updated representations of these guys. I will place preorders on them after botcon, let my wallet breath for a lil.

News Credits: 5 · by **Oilspill** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:17 pm

Does anyone know if they have plans to upsize the previous 2 releases (Rager and Spray I think they were called)?

I may get these two releases, but I don't think I'll get the last two as the scale will be quite weird (I know, scale is always screwed for TFs, but the minibots should be around the same size if possible).

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:46 pm

Oilspill wrote:Does anyone know if they have plans to upsize the previous 2 releases (Rager and Spray I think they were called)?

I may get these two releases, but I don't think I'll get the last two as the scale will be quite weird (I know, scale is always screwed for TFs, but the minibots should be around the same size if possible).

Haven't heard anything like that anywhere .... but I tend to doubt it. I heard they planned to release these at various sizes, so we may get more smaller ones in
the future too (the old promo image seems to show Pipes).

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:47 pm

Rated X wrote:Botcon or not, the long list of people complaining about spending 34 bucks is ridiculous. I could understand if we were talking about a $120 Stepper or a $600 Hercules, but 34 bucks ??? That's the price of a Takara United figure new, which Im sure most of the people on here complaining have a couple of.

I don't think it's so much the issue of each being 34 bucks, but rather people were hoping and ready to pay about 20-25 given the precedent set by the previous two minibots.

I'll probably go for both of these.