Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Burn wrote:Please don't clog this thread up with garbage. Either post a real picture of yourself, or tell Va'al how pretty he is.
Probably cuz Hasbro's gotta start theirs from scratch, whereas Takara has the existing Hasbro one to work off from as a base, and so can put more paint into theirs since they get to skip a few steps. Plus the mold's also already made for them, so that's another expense removed for them that Hasbro can't skip.#Sideways# wrote:Why does Japan have to get the best paintjobs...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
#Sideways# wrote:Why does Japan have to get the best paintjobs...
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Sabrblade wrote:Probably cuz Hasbro's gotta start theirs from scratch, whereas Takara has the existing Hasbro one to work off from as a base, and so can put more paint into theirs since they get to skip a few steps. Plus the mold's also already made for them, so that's another expense removed for them that Hasbro can't skip.#Sideways# wrote:Why does Japan have to get the best paintjobs...
xyl360 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Probably cuz Hasbro's gotta start theirs from scratch, whereas Takara has the existing Hasbro one to work off from as a base, and so can put more paint into theirs since they get to skip a few steps. Plus the mold's also already made for them, so that's another expense removed for them that Hasbro can't skip.#Sideways# wrote:Why does Japan have to get the best paintjobs...
I'm gonna call BS on this. It's a financial choice, plain and simple and I believe it has to do with their markets more than anything else. In Japan, action figures of this sort are expected to meet certain standards, which include the generous use of paint while here in the US we've gotten used to toys getting cheaper and cheaper with less going into them. If Hasbro wanted to use more paint, they could. Just look at the hand painted prototypes they use for their "official" images of the products for adverts and for the packaging. They paint those head to toe to make the figures look like they know we want them to look, then they cop out with the see-through colored plastic and figure that kids won't know the difference and that parents won't care.
TimothyR wrote:xyl360 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Probably cuz Hasbro's gotta start theirs from scratch, whereas Takara has the existing Hasbro one to work off from as a base, and so can put more paint into theirs since they get to skip a few steps. Plus the mold's also already made for them, so that's another expense removed for them that Hasbro can't skip.#Sideways# wrote:Why does Japan have to get the best paintjobs...
I'm gonna call BS on this. It's a financial choice, plain and simple and I believe it has to do with their markets more than anything else. In Japan, action figures of this sort are expected to meet certain standards, which include the generous use of paint while here in the US we've gotten used to toys getting cheaper and cheaper with less going into them. If Hasbro wanted to use more paint, they could. Just look at the hand painted prototypes they use for their "official" images of the products for adverts and for the packaging. They paint those head to toe to make the figures look like they know we want them to look, then they cop out with the see-through colored plastic and figure that kids won't know the difference and that parents won't care.
i call BS as well.
it's not like takara is getting a bunch of hasbro figures.. opening the boxes and slapping on some paint.
i agree.. the markets are different. takara has more competition than hasbro. to me, it seems like hasbro tries to "get away with" a lot. whereas takara pays more attention to detail.
besides animated.. takara's figures almost always look better. some more than others.. hasbro's universe smokescreen compared to takara's is a great example.
this megatron is beautiful. hasbro's looks good.. but this is incredible. with the prices of figures going up and some figures getting smaller, you'd think they'd have some room to pay attention to details. but they don't. it's a shame we don't get quality like this.
Lord Onixprime wrote:TimothyR wrote:xyl360 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Probably cuz Hasbro's gotta start theirs from scratch, whereas Takara has the existing Hasbro one to work off from as a base, and so can put more paint into theirs since they get to skip a few steps. Plus the mold's also already made for them, so that's another expense removed for them that Hasbro can't skip.#Sideways# wrote:Why does Japan have to get the best paintjobs...
I'm gonna call BS on this. It's a financial choice, plain and simple and I believe it has to do with their markets more than anything else. In Japan, action figures of this sort are expected to meet certain standards, which include the generous use of paint while here in the US we've gotten used to toys getting cheaper and cheaper with less going into them. If Hasbro wanted to use more paint, they could. Just look at the hand painted prototypes they use for their "official" images of the products for adverts and for the packaging. They paint those head to toe to make the figures look like they know we want them to look, then they cop out with the see-through colored plastic and figure that kids won't know the difference and that parents won't care.
i call BS as well.
it's not like takara is getting a bunch of hasbro figures.. opening the boxes and slapping on some paint.
i agree.. the markets are different. takara has more competition than hasbro. to me, it seems like hasbro tries to "get away with" a lot. whereas takara pays more attention to detail.
besides animated.. takara's figures almost always look better. some more than others.. hasbro's universe smokescreen compared to takara's is a great example.
this megatron is beautiful. hasbro's looks good.. but this is incredible. with the prices of figures going up and some figures getting smaller, you'd think they'd have some room to pay attention to details. but they don't. it's a shame we don't get quality like this.
This stuff has been explained countless times guys. Takara and Hasbro don't function the same, and are 2 very different markets.
If I'm not mistaken, Takara prices per figure while Hasbro prices per case. Their Megatron might look better, but might cost more than the other figures in the line, where Hasbro aims to keep all the figures in the case the same price, and a low one at that. That's secodn hand knowledge, but I believe that's how it works.
Lord Onixprime wrote:TimothyR wrote:xyl360 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Probably cuz Hasbro's gotta start theirs from scratch, whereas Takara has the existing Hasbro one to work off from as a base, and so can put more paint into theirs since they get to skip a few steps. Plus the mold's also already made for them, so that's another expense removed for them that Hasbro can't skip.#Sideways# wrote:Why does Japan have to get the best paintjobs...
I'm gonna call BS on this. It's a financial choice, plain and simple and I believe it has to do with their markets more than anything else. In Japan, action figures of this sort are expected to meet certain standards, which include the generous use of paint while here in the US we've gotten used to toys getting cheaper and cheaper with less going into them. If Hasbro wanted to use more paint, they could. Just look at the hand painted prototypes they use for their "official" images of the products for adverts and for the packaging. They paint those head to toe to make the figures look like they know we want them to look, then they cop out with the see-through colored plastic and figure that kids won't know the difference and that parents won't care.
i call BS as well.
it's not like takara is getting a bunch of hasbro figures.. opening the boxes and slapping on some paint.
i agree.. the markets are different. takara has more competition than hasbro. to me, it seems like hasbro tries to "get away with" a lot. whereas takara pays more attention to detail.
besides animated.. takara's figures almost always look better. some more than others.. hasbro's universe smokescreen compared to takara's is a great example.
this megatron is beautiful. hasbro's looks good.. but this is incredible. with the prices of figures going up and some figures getting smaller, you'd think they'd have some room to pay attention to details. but they don't. it's a shame we don't get quality like this.
This stuff has been explained countless times guys. Takara and Hasbro don't function the same, and are 2 very different markets.
If I'm not mistaken, Takara prices per figure while Hasbro prices per case. Their Megatron might look better, but might cost more than the other figures in the line, where Hasbro aims to keep all the figures in the case the same price, and a low one at that. That's secodn hand knowledge, but I believe that's how it works.
Emerje wrote:Takara Tomy has really been slipping lately, though. Orion Pax is a 1:1 repaint of the Hasbro version with metallic paint and a blue windshield. Go! Hunter Smokescreen is lacking in paint aps compared to the BH version. Go! Predaking just slightly changed some color shades from the Hasbro version. Even going back to United Warpath didn't look as good as the Hasbro version and Thunderwing is in weird pastel colors.
Problem with the IDW figures is deciding who's doing a better job of representing the comics. It's was easier in previous series when you just had to decide if you wanted your figure to be accurate to the original figure or the cartoon version.
For the record I went with Takara Tomy for the Generations deluxe figures all the way through to Skywarp/Ratbat. After that I decided the changes between Takara Tomy and Hasbro weren't drastic enough to warrant importing. Only figures I'm importing now are the original Go! figures and Oni remolds.
Emerje
MINDVVIPE wrote:This mould so needed to be a voyager. Especially since they repurposed it as Dreadwing. I'm not buying this because WFC Megatron is the best version in my collection so far, but I would have sprung for this awesome design of the size was there. Shame.
Also, the gun is kinda weak in looking like an actual gun. Another reason why I love the WFC version with its giant fusion cannon even more.
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