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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:17 pm

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Sandstorm looks GLORIOUS! ;)^

El Duque wrote:Machine Wars Starscream from Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Terradive
I sincerely hope not.

Starscream was GARGANTUAN in Machine Wars. He should either be reflected as such in new toy using a larger size class mold, or keep his original 1997 toy's body.

After all, the original teaser we saw for this set had him in his 1997 toy body, anyway.

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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Henry921 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:45 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Sandstorm looks GLORIOUS! ;)^

El Duque wrote:Machine Wars Starscream from Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Terradive
I sincerely hope not.

Starscream was GARGANTUAN in Machine Wars. He should either be reflected as such in new toy using a larger size class mold, or keep his original 1997 toy's body.

After all, the original teaser we saw for this set had him in his 1997 toy body, anyway.

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Of the available molds, Terradive is probably the closest they can get to Starscream. The only other possibility is the Universe Silverbolt mold, but the Club already used up their new heads allotment.

And since the third and final Voyager figure has been revealed, there are nothing but Deluxe molds left to work with anyway.

That just leaves the Custom Class figure to speculate on... :-?
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby waaaaghlord » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:45 pm

If these turn out to be accurate then it's shaping up to be a nicer set than I was expecting. I still can't justify going after too much on the secondary market but depending on how the decos turn out I might just have to add the Rainmaker pack on to the want list with Stryka and Obsidian. So my priorities from the Machine Wars set are the guys that don't actually have anything to do with the original Machine Wars line. I guess I'd go for SS, SW and TC as well if I ever happen to catch them for the right price, but not as high a priority. I have my DotM Skyhammer on my Classics shelf as a stand in Rotorstorm, so that being used as his mouldmate here makes an awful lot of sense to me.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby waaaaghlord » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:47 pm

Henry921 wrote:That just leaves the Custom Class figure to speculate on... :-?


Soundwave from Warpath?
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Henry921 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:53 pm

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Henry921 wrote:That just leaves the Custom Class figure to speculate on... :-?


Soundwave from Warpath?


If anyone for Soundwave, I'd guess RTS Perceptor.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby waaaaghlord » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:59 pm

I believe the custom class figure has to be a toy that they are already using in either the box or the add ons.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Henry921 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:08 pm

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waaaaghlord wrote:I believe the custom class figure has to be a toy that they are already using in either the box or the add ons.



It wasn't in 2008 with Shattered Glass Nightbeat.

Though to be fair it was every other year, so you may be right. :HEADHURTS:
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby waaaaghlord » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:36 pm

It was Overkill from Classics Grimlock in 08 wasn't it? Same year the figure was used for SG Grimlock.

edit- No, Overkill in 07, Nightbeat in 08. They'll have got the Nightbeat kits from the factory at the same time as the Club Nightbeat figures though so I guess that makes Overkill the oddball, out of left field guy.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby craggy » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:25 pm

If the Classics Seeker mold is getting used, as the cartoon Rainmakers, maybe the Custom Class bot will be the orange comic version of Sunstorm?
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:44 pm

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Henry921 wrote:Of the available molds, Terradive is probably the closest they can get to Starscream. The only other possibility is the Universe Silverbolt mold, but the Club already used up their new heads allotment.

And since the third and final Voyager figure has been revealed, there are nothing but Deluxe molds left to work with anyway.
OR, since all 12 of the 1997 toys are going to appear as characters in this story anyway, they could have just not made a new Starscream toy. ;)
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby deceptigtar » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:00 pm

this is on par with the rumors i heard as well. as other mentioned, starscream from terradive and soundwave from perceptor are part of that rumor.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Henry921 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:30 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Henry921 wrote:Of the available molds, Terradive is probably the closest they can get to Starscream. The only other possibility is the Universe Silverbolt mold, but the Club already used up their new heads allotment.

And since the third and final Voyager figure has been revealed, there are nothing but Deluxe molds left to work with anyway.
OR, since all 12 of the 1997 toys are going to appear as characters in this story anyway, they could have just not made a new Starscream toy. ;)


Wait. What about Sandstorm? Is he meant to be a clone too? Or Prowl/Mirage for that matter?
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:34 pm

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Henry921 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Henry921 wrote:Of the available molds, Terradive is probably the closest they can get to Starscream. The only other possibility is the Universe Silverbolt mold, but the Club already used up their new heads allotment.

And since the third and final Voyager figure has been revealed, there are nothing but Deluxe molds left to work with anyway.
OR, since all 12 of the 1997 toys are going to appear as characters in this story anyway, they could have just not made a new Starscream toy. ;)


Wait. What about Sandstorm? Is he meant to be a clone too? Or Prowl/Mirage for that matter?
The Autobots, at least, are their true selves.

Thus, 1997 Hoist, and not 1997 Sandstorm, have been rendered redundant by these new toys. >:oP
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Henry921 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:05 pm

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Henry921 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Henry921 wrote:Of the available molds, Terradive is probably the closest they can get to Starscream. The only other possibility is the Universe Silverbolt mold, but the Club already used up their new heads allotment.

And since the third and final Voyager figure has been revealed, there are nothing but Deluxe molds left to work with anyway.
OR, since all 12 of the 1997 toys are going to appear as characters in this story anyway, they could have just not made a new Starscream toy. ;)


Wait. What about Sandstorm? Is he meant to be a clone too? Or Prowl/Mirage for that matter?
The Autobots, at least, are their true selves.

Thus, 1997 Hoist, and not 1997 Sandstorm, have been rendered redundant by these new toys. >:oP


So if some figures have already been rendered moot, why not Starscream as well? And as the three revealed Decepticons are clones anyway, a Starscream figure could fill the same role in fiction.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Trikeboy » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:06 pm

Well, if that is the confirmed list of add ons for this years Botcon, I'm definitely saving a lot of money. This set is not to my tastes but for those who like it, I hope you enjoy them. Depending on how they look, I may try and get the Rainmakers but I have a feeling I can easily pass on them.

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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:08 am

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waaaaghlord wrote:It was Overkill from Classics Grimlock in 08 wasn't it? Same year the figure was used for SG Grimlock.

edit- No, Overkill in 07, Nightbeat in 08. They'll have got the Nightbeat kits from the factory at the same time as the Club Nightbeat figures though so I guess that makes Overkill the oddball, out of left field guy.


Forgetting Universe Rumble and Inferno from Cybertron Scrapmetal are we? 2006. :-B Let's see what the list has, and who they're based on:

2006: Universe Rumble and Inferno (Cybertron Scrapmetal (red))
2007: Classics Overkill (Classics Grimlock)
2008: SG Nightbeat (TFCC Nightbeat)
2009: SG Thunderclash (BotCon 2009 Thunderclash)
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2011: Animated Minerva (Animated Arcee, unique plastic colors and unofficial retooling)
2012: SG Longarm (RtS Special Ops Jazz, unique plastic colors, and unofficial retooling)

Starting in 2009, they use molds also used for the sets and starting in 2011 they start retooling. I wonder what they'll do nest.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:13 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
waaaaghlord wrote:It was Overkill from Classics Grimlock in 08 wasn't it? Same year the figure was used for SG Grimlock.

edit- No, Overkill in 07, Nightbeat in 08. They'll have got the Nightbeat kits from the factory at the same time as the Club Nightbeat figures though so I guess that makes Overkill the oddball, out of left field guy.


Forgetting Universe Rumble and Inferno from Cybertron Scrapmetal are we? 2006. :-B Let's see what the list has, and who they're based on:

2006: Universe Rumble and Inferno (Cybertron Scrapmetal (red))
2007: Classics Overkill (Classics Grimlock)
2008: SG Nightbeat (TFCC Nightbeat)
2009: SG Thunderclash (BotCon 2009 Thunderclash)
2010: G2 Sideswipe (Universe Sideswipe, unique plastic colors)
2011: Animated Minerva (Animated Arcee, unique plastic colors and unofficial retooling)
2012: SG Longarm (RtS Special Ops Jazz, unique plastic colors, and unofficial retooling)

Starting in 2009, they use molds also used for the sets and starting in 2011 they start retooling. I wonder what they'll do nest.
And starting in 2013, they offer the custom class figure fully assembled, but unpainted, to registered attendees one per person as an optional alternative to taking the class. ;)
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:00 am

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
Sabrblade wrote:And starting in 2013, they offer the custom class figure fully assembled, but unpainted, to registered attendees one per person as an optional alternative to taking the class. ;)


Aw, but where's the fun in that? :-(
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:05 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:And starting in 2013, they offer the custom class figure fully assembled, but unpainted, to registered attendees one per person as an optional alternative to taking the class. ;)


Aw, but where's the fun in that? :-(
With how demanding getting into the class usually is, them offering the figure to non-classmates feels quite generous and merciful to those less fortunate to get into the class. An act of goodwill, if you will. :D
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Mkall » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:02 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:And starting in 2013, they offer the custom class figure fully assembled, but unpainted, to registered attendees one per person as an optional alternative to taking the class. ;)


Aw, but where's the fun in that? :-(
With how demanding getting into the class usually is, them offering the figure to non-classmates feels quite generous and merciful to those less fortunate to get into the class. An act of goodwill, if you will. :D

Drat, something else I'm going to have to shell money for on eBay :(
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Rated X » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:13 pm

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Great choice on the Rainmakers since I put them on my Botcon survey for the last 3 years. They might be more cartoon accurate than my CHMS versions. Cant never have enough seekers. I currently have 39 versions of the classics seeker mold. Greatest mold ever !

Poor choice on Starscream. If he isn’t gonna be huge them might as well keep him the same mold as Skywarp and Thundercracker. Everybody wanted the Silverbolt mold, why didn’t they just deliver ? Aside from GM and movie licensed molds, I don’t buy into the excuses of a mold not being “available”. What decides this ? If it’s piled up in the back of a warehouse and they’re too lazy to dig it out ?

Glad not to see the Perceptor mold on the list. I didn’t want to see them ruin Soundwave my not using the perfect Cybertron Red Alert mold. And I don’t need a 3 pack of huge Reflectors either. The Perfect Effect set is fine for me.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:17 pm

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Mkall wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:And starting in 2013, they offer the custom class figure fully assembled, but unpainted, to registered attendees one per person as an optional alternative to taking the class. ;)


Aw, but where's the fun in that? :-(
With how demanding getting into the class usually is, them offering the figure to non-classmates feels quite generous and merciful to those less fortunate to get into the class. An act of goodwill, if you will. :D

Drat, something else I'm going to have to shell money for on eBay :(


The only one I'd really want is that G2 Sideswipe, that would complete the G2 Heroics with Gen. Gift Set Jazz, and Universe Inferno.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Sandstorm Revealed

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #348 - Uno
Twincast / Podcast #348:
"Uno"
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Posted: Saturday, April 20th, 2024

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