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ZeroWolf wrote: true, and something I've had to remind beast wars haters through the years (and to an extent, live action haters), that the franchise survived (and thrived) because of these choices.

Exactly. Those were rebirth/milestone years.

Beast Wars saved Transformers.

2007 Bay movie brought a whole new generation of fans AND brought back many who gave up on the franchise years and years ago.

But haters will never understand those facts. They WON'T understand. Luckily, they are a tiny minority.

ZeroWolf wrote:Well the solution is simple...Go back in time and get Beast Wars made either a year earlier or a year later same the 1986 movie Just how the anniversaries fell for the respective parts of the franchise.

Hasbro hasn't always been the most exact when it comes to anniversaries. In fact I'd say they really dont care more often than not (BW 10th, TF 20th, T30). Many BW fans would agree they got snubbed heavily on the 20th. Doing a full original series line this year to finish the WFC trilogy, and then full on BW in 2022 I dont think would have been that hard to conceptualize.

I think the reason they're making a big deal over the 25th is because they didn't do anything for the 20th, and fans complained to them. This (to them) was the best compromise. It's largely worked. I just hope the rumours are true about future generations line being less G1 dependent, its about time it let the spot light fall on other areas.

Oh I fully expect next year and moving forward to have very little if any original series. Now that Warden is gone, I expect a lot more evergreen genericness, which is sad, so much was left unrealised.

I mean if we get more BW I'll be thrilled, but for now what I'm seeing with Target and the BB line, also basically all of what Cyberverse was, has me concerned.

Anyone has any updates with their Amazon orders of BW Megatron (and by extension, SS86 Grimlock)?

-Kanrabat- wrote:
2007 Bay movie brought a whole new generation of fans AND brought back many who gave up on the franchise years and years ago.

In the circles I keep locally I was one of the only ones to never give up on Transformers. Some thought I was crazy but I normally don't give a crap what others think of me especially with something I am super passionate about.

If they really want to up the ante they could work on future lines and include Pretenders/mega pretenders like Thunderwing and the basic pretenders. Monsterbots, sparkabots, triggerbots and cons, there are still a lot of Transformers that have not been modernized.

Monsterbots were all done in TR 2016/17.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:
2007 Bay movie brought a whole new generation of fans AND brought back many who gave up on the franchise years and years ago.

In the circles I keep locally I was one of the only ones to never give up on Transformers. Some thought I was crazy but I normally don't give a crap what others think of me especially with something I am super passionate about.

If they really want to up the ante they could work on future lines and include Pretenders/mega pretenders like Thunderwing and the basic pretenders. Monsterbots, sparkabots, triggerbots and cons, there are still a lot of Transformers that have not been modernized.

Yeah, I think they will in some way or another keep that going. they've been bringing characters from other iterations of the franchise into G1 for 10 years now - no reason to stop now. Also, like you I've never been away from Transformers.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:
2007 Bay movie brought a whole new generation of fans AND brought back many who gave up on the franchise years and years ago.

In the circles I keep locally I was one of the only ones to never give up on Transformers. Some thought I was crazy but I normally don't give a crap what others think of me especially with something I am super passionate about.

If they really want to up the ante they could work on future lines and include Pretenders/mega pretenders like Thunderwing and the basic pretenders. Monsterbots, sparkabots, triggerbots and cons, there are still a lot of Transformers that have not been modernized.

When I became a teen in the late 1980's, toys were no longer "cool" and I was only in video games. Then in my early 30's, I heard the TF siren's song in 2007. By 2009, I plunged deep in the TF collecting rabbit hole and I never looked back!

As for modernised Pretenders? ALL OF MY YES!!!

Hasbro: "We just did the Pretenders back in Power of the Primes."

Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro: "We just did the Pretenders back in Power of the Primes."

Pain, Peko.

Not sure if I was ever really "out", you be the judge.

Watched the original show all the way through, even reruns until 1990. Stopped getting the toys in 1988. Stayed with the marvel comic until it's end in 1991.

Picked up Gen 2 Marvel Comics in 93/94. Started recording reruns of the original series on VHS in 1993 on "Sci-Fi cartoon Quest" early in the morning. Purchased select G2 toys

Purchased select BW toys and watched BW all the way through. watched BM (never got any of the toys). Watched CarRobots (yay! internet and torrent files prior to RiD broadcast in the U.S.), and purchased select car Robots and RiD toys.

watched Armada and Energon. Purchased all DW comics, and select Armada/Energon toys. Watched Cybertron, but never purchased any toys.

I sold my entire Toy collection up t that point on eBay in 2007. Started buying random Animated and movie toys for my son (But stopped getting toys for myself from 2005-2015)

Watched Animated, the live action films, and Prime. Rid15, and Cyberverse

Started getting back into toys late in CW in 2016, and have been collecting select toys from all generations lines since.

I collected all IDW comics from 2005-2018 (end of first continuity), then sold them all on eBay in January 2020.

Currently I really enjoy the Netflix series, and the WFC toys, though each year I seem to get less and less toys. The designs are great, but my collection mainly focuses on Combiners, Titans, and a few other select favorites, and anything that integrates interconnectivity between different toys.

I collected No Prime toys (despite enjoying the series very much). No Rid15 toys (my interest in the show was minimal and my son had some toys), and no toys of Cyberverse as I neither had any interest in the show or the toys. I have also had zero interest in the IDW comics for some time.

I'd say I was never 100% out. But of the 3 facets (Toys, Animation, and Print Media). I am usually only into 2 at any given time, occasionally down to 1. It would be nice if a time came when all 3 were great at the same time...But I guess only time will tell.

Quantum Surge wrote:Anyone has any updates with their Amazon orders of BW Megatron (and by extension, SS86 Grimlock)?

Nope, Megatron in April, Grimlock in May.

Amazon might be the only store to get stock slower than Pulse.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Quantum Surge wrote:Anyone has any updates with their Amazon orders of BW Megatron (and by extension, SS86 Grimlock)?

Nope, Megatron in April, Grimlock in May.

Amazon might be the only store to get stock slower than Pulse.

I've said this before and was shouted down but I feel Pulse and Amazon have to hold back so Hasbro's brick and mortar retail partners get a fair shot at selling the product first.

There seems to have been an initial early first release (did nobody get Leader Megatron from Amazon?). I've seen all of Kingdom between late december and mid january in stores, and online. However more recently after that first push all sold out, nothing has come in to replace any of it, at least in stores, the shelves are all bare.

Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, PrimeVsPrime, has another new review to share with us! Following his Dinobot Review, PrimeVsPrime, has continued on with Dinobot's wave mate, Inferno!

Inferno is a retool of the Grapple released last year as part of the Earthrise line, and adds to the already extensive collection of G1 characters given superb updates.

We have embedded the review below for your convenience:


What do you think of this review? Will you be picking up Inferno?

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Quantum Surge wrote:Anyone has any updates with their Amazon orders of BW Megatron (and by extension, SS86 Grimlock)?

I'm still waiting to get BW Megatron via Chosen Prime, myself.

o.supreme wrote:There seems to have been an initial early first release (did nobody get Leader Megatron from Amazon?). I've seen all of Kingdom between late december and mid january in stores, and online. However more recently after that first push all sold out, nothing has come in to replace any of it, at least in stores, the shelves are all bare.

Back in December, Core-class Rattrap and Prime were shipped out by Amazon. Then Gamestop dropped Megatron and Cyclonus. I picked up the rest in-person at a Target.

aronjlove wrote:

o.supreme wrote:There seems to have been an initial early first release (did nobody get Leader Megatron from Amazon?). I've seen all of Kingdom between late december and mid january in stores, and online. However more recently after that first push all sold out, nothing has come in to replace any of it, at least in stores, the shelves are all bare.

Back in December, Core-class Rattrap and Prime were shipped out by Amazon. Then Gamestop dropped Megatron and Cyclonus. I picked up the rest in-person at a Target.

Ive seen Megatron and Optimus Prime at retail. Well, once I saw Megatron and I passed on him - which I regret.

I've seen optimus once and I regret passing up on paleotrex. I have yet to see primal, Megatron, blackarachnia, or cheetor

Quantum Surge wrote:Anyone has any updates with their Amazon orders of BW Megatron (and by extension, SS86 Grimlock)?

Last week my Amazon BW Megatron got pushed back to May 15th and Grimlock got pushed to June 5th, then a day later I got a cancelation notice for Grimlock. So good luck on those. Guess I'll cross my fingers that they eventually show up in my corner of Western PA.

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ZeroWolf wrote:Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, PrimeVsPrime, has another new review to share with us! Following his Dinobot Review, PrimeVsPrime, has continued on with Dinobot's wave mate, Inferno!

Good, he addressed the broken pegs on Grapple and confirmed that they did fix them on Inferno. The pegs are now shorter, almost half the size, and no longer hollow and better mounted. Not sure why the people who got him earlier said the pegs hadn't been fixed, I didn't think that sounded right looking at their pictures.



Emerje

My son transforms his Grapple all the time, and his pegs are fine. He just told me he pushes them in very gently. He's 8 and what I would call medium rough with his figures, but he guards those pegs. lol

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, PrimeVsPrime, has another new review to share with us! Following his Dinobot Review, PrimeVsPrime, has continued on with Dinobot's wave mate, Inferno!

Good, he addressed the broken pegs on Grapple and confirmed that they did fix them on Inferno. The pegs are now shorter, almost half the size, and no longer hollow and better mounted. Not sure why the people who got him earlier said the pegs hadn't been fixed, I didn't think that sounded right looking at their pictures.

InfernoGrapplePeg.JPG

Emerje

I wouldn't say "fixed" per se, because it's a whole new piece, not a changed one. They may have noticed the breaking issue with Grapple and quickly changed the design of the pegs on Inferno while they were able to (before cutting the molds?). Inferno being released significantly later may have helped the timing.
Whatever you wanna call it, good to see Inferno doesn't seem to have that problem. Now we wait to see if the problem pops up again with Hauler

sol magnus wrote:My son transforms his Grapple all the time, and his pegs are fine. He just told me he pushes them in very gently. He's 8 and what I would call medium rough with his figures, but he guards those pegs. lol

That is so cool to know Sol Magnus I just needed to say! That would be epic if he continues the legacy as he grows!