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News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Thu May 06, 2021 6:35 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Yeah he got others off In Demand Toys, like Selects Abominus and Volcanicus. I suspect Scorponok here is similar. An early review to build up hype.

Yes, that was from you. Thank you sir.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Early releases are weeks, not months before they're on shelves... For the record, Hasbro will never send out figures this early to be reviewed.

There are many examples of toys released in other countries months before they came out in the U.S. It happens often. Last Summer , In Demand got ER Skylynx and Scorponok months before many other places did.

Also for the record, go watch Emgo's review of Selects Black Roritchi. He literally reviewed it the SAME DAY it came up for pre-order on Hasbro Pulse, and he did Credit BBTS & Hasbro for sending him one early. Since he usually is not one of the super-early reviewers it was quite a surprise.

News Credits: 4496 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 06, 2021 6:42 pm

Just curious but how do we know to distinguish Male and female dinosaurs when the reproductive organs are bot preserved? No one knows what a trex penis looks like

News Credits: 2 · by **Spider5800** » Thu May 06, 2021 6:44 pm

Hmm. Scorponok looks good, but that height difference in bot mode is disappointing. I already pre-ordered him, and it's still the best looking version of this character so far, so I'm sticking with him, but I can't lie, not as excited as I was before.

Also looks like the main reason for it is because so much plastic went into his tail :BANG_HEAD:

by **Jeddostotle7** » Thu May 06, 2021 6:57 pm

william-james88 wrote:Just curious but how do we know to distinguish Male and female dinosaurs when the reproductive organs are bot preserved? No one knows what a trex penis looks like

Wingfinger, being a Pteranodon, isn't a dinosaur, but looking at the somewhat larger clade in Archosauria that includes both dinos and pterosaurs:

Basically, as far as I'm aware, the same way we determine a lot of other stuff about them: looking at the fossil evidence (bones, skin/feather impressions, etc.) and comparing to the same things in their closest living relatives (birds), their much more distant relatives that are still closer related than any other group aside from the aforementioned (crocodilians), and also compare to non-related living animals that are filling similar or the same niches today.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Thu May 06, 2021 8:10 pm

For "dead on" cartoon accuracy, there's always the MP line. For scorponok, is not "show accurate" to a T as much as all the other beast characters were. And that's fine because the line is constant.

This Scorpy is very smol, yes. But he's also BEEFY. Like a stronk manlet. The scroprion look creepy enough and that transformation is certainly creative. I'll be sure to pick him up when he'll come out.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Thu May 06, 2021 8:52 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Wow - how do some people get these things so dang EARLY? Do they have access to the factory floor or something? The rest of us casual reviewers have to wait for general release - there is no justice!

So you're saying if you had access to stolen figures before others you'd refuse them?

Yup. Some of us have moral standards.
Good to know that you do. But does DeathReviews?

Not sure if our concepts of "morality" apply to a force of nature such as the Grim Reaper

News Credits: 10 · by **JazZeke** » Fri May 07, 2021 2:03 am

Does anyone else find it annoying the sheer amount of times PvP uses the phrase "of course" in his videos? He's not freaking M. Bison.

News Credits: 11 · by **Lore Keeper** » Fri May 07, 2021 2:23 am

JazZeke wrote:Does anyone else find it annoying the sheer amount of times PvP uses the phrase "of course" in his videos? He's not freaking M. Bison.

News Credits: 5 · by **Nuclearxpotato** » Fri May 07, 2021 2:39 am

JazZeke wrote:Does anyone else find it annoying the sheer amount of times PvP uses the phrase "of course" in his videos? He's not freaking M. Bison.

Or misusing "obscure" to describe kibble.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri May 07, 2021 4:13 am

Nuclearxpotato wrote:
JazZeke wrote:Does anyone else find it annoying the sheer amount of times PvP uses the phrase "of course" in his videos? He's not freaking M. Bison.

Or misusing "obscure" to describe kibble.

Not to pseudo-mod but these kind of discussions should be left on 4chan.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri May 07, 2021 4:31 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:
JazZeke wrote:Does anyone else find it annoying the sheer amount of times PvP uses the phrase "of course" in his videos? He's not freaking M. Bison.

Or misusing "obscure" to describe kibble.

Not to pseudo-mod but these kind of discussions should be left on 4chan.

Yep, let's just keep it on the toys

News Credits: 11 · by **Munkky** » Fri May 07, 2021 5:40 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:Greetings Seibertronians!
Once again, Prime VS Prime deliver with an early Kingdom video review!

This time, it is for Deluxe Class Scorponok from the classic Beast Wars series! Scorponok is part of Deluxe Wave 3 that will be hitting store shelves along with Fossilizer Wingfinger, a repack of Earthrise Wheeljack and Tracks!

He come with a look that closely resembles the original show but with a modern interpretation of it.

Are you planning to pick this guy up?
Let us know!

Trransforms from Scorpion to Manlet and back!

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri May 07, 2021 6:07 am

Munkky wrote:Trransforms from Scorpion to Manlet and back!

THATS MEAN AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF!

But goddamn did I laughed! :lol:

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Fri May 07, 2021 7:45 am

Autobot N wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Wow - how do some people get these things so dang EARLY? Do they have access to the factory floor or something? The rest of us casual reviewers have to wait for general release - there is no justice!

So you're saying if you had access to stolen figures before others you'd refuse them?

Yup. Some of us have moral standards.
Good to know that you do. But does DeathReviews?

Not sure if our concepts of "morality" apply to a force of nature such as the Grim Reaper

Death doesn't judge the souls he reaps - that's for others to do. I just escort them to the courtroom so to speak

.

But no - I would not accept stolen merchandise. I didn't accuse PvP of stealing - I just marveled that he is getting so many of these new figures so early, and wondered how he does it. He seems awash with all the stuff that was only just announced/revealed at the Pulse event a couple weeks ago. These are figures that aren't supposed to be available until late this year at the earliest. That kind of early access seems highly unusual. Maybe they wanted him to do the reviews first because he has an accent, and thus makes it sound 'classier'...?

by **Starseeker** » Fri May 07, 2021 9:29 am

I always assumed these YouTubers get the stuff early because they're specifically sent it by the company. It's free advertising for them, if you think about it.
It does suck that the rest of us have to wait, but at the same time it also helps us decide if we want to get a figure or not. Seeing someone actually handle the figure, transform it, pose it, as opposed to just photos of it, is a win for us, IMO.

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Fri May 07, 2021 9:33 am

DeathReviews wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Wow - how do some people get these things so dang EARLY? Do they have access to the factory floor or something? The rest of us casual reviewers have to wait for general release - there is no justice!

So you're saying if you had access to stolen figures before others you'd refuse them?

Yup. Some of us have moral standards.
Good to know that you do. But does DeathReviews?

Not sure if our concepts of "morality" apply to a force of nature such as the Grim Reaper

Death doesn't judge the souls he reaps - that's for others to do. I just escort them to the courtroom so to speak .

But no - I would not accept stolen merchandise. I didn't accuse PvP of stealing - I just marveled that he is getting so many of these new figures so early, and wondered how he does it. He seems awash with all the stuff that was only just announced/revealed at the Pulse event a couple weeks ago. These are figures that aren't supposed to be available until late this year at the earliest. That kind of early access seems highly unusual. Maybe they wanted him to do the reviews first because he has an accent, and thus makes it sound 'classier'...?

Last summer there was a big thing with him and TonTon and the source of their super-early previews. They were getting them from factory employees, who were stealing them - and then there was some kind of program they were running where you too might be able to become an insta-youtube celeb if you wanted by buying the figures early through them.

News Credits: 4496 · by **william-james88** » Fri May 07, 2021 12:15 pm

Easy way to know if they are sent the products by the company is if they show the box.

by **Nemesis Reformatted** » Fri May 07, 2021 1:50 pm

JazZeke wrote:Does anyone else find it annoying the sheer amount of times PvP uses the phrase "of course" in his videos? He's not freaking M. Bison.

I absolutely despise it when reviewers constantly say tab this in "LIKE SO", this goes here "LIKE SO", flip this up "LIKE SO", "LIKE SO", "LIKE SO". Irritates the piss out of me JUST LIKE SO!

I also can't stand it when everybody calls extra parts "kibble".

KIBBLE:
ground meal shaped into pellets, especially for pet food.

Who's the jackass that started calling it kibble anyway? 8-}

by **Nemesis Reformatted** » Fri May 07, 2021 2:02 pm

I hit 10 stores today just to get out of the house. 7 Walmarts & 3 Targets. I didn't see 1 single leader class anywhere. I was hoping to find Grimlock but I had to order him off ebay instead. But it seems like every toy hunt video I watch has a ton of Grimlocks sitting in their Walmarts. Judging from those videos, I kinda thought he'd be really easy to find. I was dead wrong! :shock:

All the Walmarts in my area got cases of Optimus Primal & Cyclonus. I don't think it was a smart idea for Hasbro to pack the case with 2 Primals & only 1 Cyclonus. Everybody seems to be buying up Cyclonus & leaving both Primals. That's exactly what I did too. I'm not interested in Beast Wars except for the 2 females & I already got them.

News Credits: 1 · by **Rtron** » Fri May 07, 2021 2:16 pm

Saw the review, I'm liking Scorponok more and more. It's crazy because I never cared much for the character in the cartoon. But the scorpion mode is just too good. A shame his bot mode is so short, though. But I'd rather he be short but bulky and with a functional scorpion tail than have him be big and have a pitiful tail. To have both he would have had to be a voyager, and I'm not sure that would have gone over well with such an unremarkable character, specially considering he has a super simple transformation.

by **Notimus Crime** » Fri May 07, 2021 2:40 pm

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:I also can't stand it when everybody calls extra parts "kibble".

KIBBLE:
ground meal shaped into pellets, especially for pet food.

Who's the jackass that started calling it kibble anyway?

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Kibble#Origin_of_the_term

I personally don't have a problem with the term kibble other than it's meaning not being immediately obvious to non-transformers fans.

News Credits: 1 · by **Rtron** » Fri May 07, 2021 2:48 pm

Notimus Crime wrote:
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:I also can't stand it when everybody calls extra parts "kibble".

KIBBLE:
ground meal shaped into pellets, especially for pet food.

Who's the jackass that started calling it kibble anyway?

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Kibble#Origin_of_the_term

I personally don't have a problem with the term kibble other than it's meaning not being immediately obvious to non-transformers fans.

I like it too because it gives us a specific word for a recurrent characteristic of Transformers. It'd be more annoying to have no word for that characteristic.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Fri May 07, 2021 3:05 pm

william-james88 wrote:Ah that makes more sense Well, let us know what you think. I feel I'm in a minority on thinking Ractonite blows but I find that odd. I think he's objectively a really weak design with being the first deluxe in the WFC trilogy to not have proper hands with fist holes.

Finally got him in after a week of Pulse limbo with no tracking information. Will need to spend some more time with him later, but first impressions are pretty good.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri May 07, 2021 5:43 pm

Lore Keeper wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Not an agreement with Hasbro, but someone here recently (I apologize I cannot recall at the moment), pointed out a UK website that somehow does obtain toys quite early, and they have sent items to PvP to review before (he has credited them on his reviews), and this is how PvP gets several of them. Some of the more well known (infamous) early reviewers are obtaining questionable factory samples, based on their close proximity to where the toys are being made, but my guess is that PvP's family is financially secure, so he can afford to get the earliest sources and pay insane amounts to get them shipped to him in the UK as quickly as possible.

I mean most of us poor shlubs are living paycheck-to-paycheck so we have to budget our resources to get TF's when they come out, but of the several thousands of us, I'd imagine there are a few more well-off than others, so they get the reviews earlier. I'm not jealous, it gives me a good opportunity to look at something several months in advance.

Early releases are weeks, not months before they're on shelves. I've also heard from several sources that he and Ton Ton sell their samples for crazy amounts privately to recoup whatever costs they had. Between the views and the sales, they're doing ok. For the record, Hasbro will never send out figures this early to be reviewed. If they did there's a long list of reviewers who have larger audiences and have a closer relationship to Hasbro than PvP and Ton Ton.

I wish these forums had a like button because this deserves one, sir.

This forum doesn't but my heart does and you pressed it, good sir!