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o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I'm a but cynical though, it just looks like a way for Hasbro to get some more money out of fans since they get the premium membership bucks AND get double their margin on anything offered on Pulse.

Exactly. I mean if they offer Target, Walmart and Walgreens exclusives, I appreciate that because there isn't a guarantee of finding them in store or even pre-ordering online (since at least Target and Walmarts online ordering has proven to be unreliable at times). But yeah, it was the Amazon aspect that baffled me since there is abundant quantities seemingly available.

I think getting the Amazon exclusives is a by product if getting all exclusives now and that's about it.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:The fact that they've now revealed both Tigatron and Pipes's molds through this before the actual original uses of the molds is aggravatingly hilarious though.

To be fair, it's really not that different than what we had in TR here we'd get the redecos/retools revealed before the main use of the mold. Or Alpha Bravo before Vortex in Combiner Wars. Hasbro is jut revealing stuff before other stuff. Same diff.

I think that's a bit different, since those guys were still mainline, while these are exclusive repaints

Meh, all toys in the same line (WFC). It's a bit different but ultimately the same thing. In both cases we are seeing a toy that is not the main intended use of the mold before the main intended use of the mold.

Just saying it's nothing really new. Hasbro has been and can be goofy.

I think what you are missing is they are revealing the uses of the mold out of order or when the product will be in hand. For CW they did show Alpha Bravo before Vortex, but Alpha Bravo was also available before Vortex. Same thing in TR. What is different here is revealing a use of the mold that won't be available for 5 months when they have failed to reveal the use of the mold that will be out in the very near future. That is if they even reveal the Tigertron before he hits retail, which as we have seen with SS Grindor is no guarantee.

Exactly.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I'm a but cynical though, it just looks like a way for Hasbro to get some more money out of fans since they get the premium membership bucks AND get double their margin on anything offered on Pulse.

Exactly. I mean if they offer Target, Walmart and Walgreens exclusives, I appreciate that because there isn't a guarantee of finding them in store or even pre-ordering online (since at least Target and Walmarts online ordering has proven to be unreliable at times). But yeah, it was the Amazon aspect that baffled me since there is abundant quantities seemingly available.

Might this have something to do with the fact that multiple interviewers complained about the availability of the Earthrise Amazon exclusives to Hasbro? They may have elected to include Amazon exclusives on Pulse due to that feedback, even though the main issues there were the amount of stock and the sets getting scalped. At least Amazon can't cancel your preorder like many people reported if you just don't order from Amazon.

Why haven't they put the Target exclusives on Pulse yet? I would happily renew my membership if it got me a Worlds Collide set. I've been able to get almost all of the Target exclusives from Target.com, but every time the WC set goes up it sells out instantly. One time I had one in my cart and it sold out before I could complete checkout, this morning I was there 3 minutes after getting an email saying it was back in stock and it was already gone.

Emerje

Jackpot eh?? This is very cool...I just wish they would have painted the front wheels like the image on the back of the box.

Since I had to part ways with G2 Rapido (Timelines) I think / should consider him for this mold...'nuff said!

Emerje wrote:Why haven't they put the Target exclusives on Pulse yet? I would happily renew my membership if it got me a Worlds Collide set. I've been able to get almost all of the Target exclusives from Target.com, but every time the WC set goes up it sells out instantly. One time I had one in my cart and it sold out before I could complete checkout, this morning I was there 3 minutes after getting an email saying it was back in stock and it was already gone.

Emerje

I'm pretty sure target is the only retail partner that gives enough of a **** to not play ball about letting pulse skim of the top of preorders. Walmart straight up doesn't give a crap about advance orders, theirs or someone elses, so long as shelf stock comes in and sells, and so far every walmart exclusive has gone up on pulse either as a preorder or as a straight to in stock listing. Amazon has a big enough market share, and has shifted enough into a marketplace style business model that it's more of a 'you scratch my back, I scratch yours' situation in regards to buying hasbro's goodwill, and all their listings heve gone up accordingly. Walgreen's toy aisle is an opportunistic holiday side hustle, a half-hearted skimming off the top of the market itself, and thus doesn't particularly care about whether they lose a fraction of that to pulse.

But Target? Target is the one that has gotten a craw in its mouth about trying to fill the vacancy left by TRU's departure, snapping up all the exclusives that would have gone there. Thus far, the only target exclusives to get pulse listings, to the best of my recollection, are the collaboratives where target got the early bird preorders but everyone was allowed to stock when they came in, and the fan demand restock of the cobra island joe figures, after target had already gotten their sales in.

...Scratch that, I forgot the cobra island wave 2 figures went up on preorder at about the same time as the restock. New theory: This quarter has been screwy about pulse getting non-86 transformers preorders listed, instead letting things go straight to in stock, and so pulse's one-quarter time delay is going to go straight to in stock, and it just hasn't come in yet.

An important side note about the partner exclusive program: it appears that only exclusives for hasbro's in-house IPs are offered, presumably because the licensed IPs have special 3-way agreements between hasbro, retailers, and the licensors, and thus hasbro has less control over what goes where.

For Target, they have been using a different tactic for releasing their exclusives in the US outside of Target. Instead of keeping a portion to sell on Pulse, they appear to be delivering them whole production run to Target, and then come back and do a second run a year or so later for online retailers. So far Redwing and the Rainmakers from Siege have been re-released (the rainmakers possibly twice). The ER Thundercracker/Skywarp set was also re-released. ER Thrust, ER Runabout and/or SS Leadfoot should be next in line for a re-release, IF, they are going to be doing this for all the Target exclusives.

People were wondering when the rest of the Transformers Kingdom deluxes would be revealed and well, that's now. There are preorders for wave 4 in a few places but the case contents are not the same everywhere. BBTS, for sintance, shows Slammer and Pipes in wave 4 while Entertainment Earth shows it being the same as we found at retail recently with the following case content:

2x Paleotrex
2x TRA GEN WFC K DELUXE TRACKS
2x TRA GEN WFC K DELUXE SHADOW PANTHER
2x TRA GEN WFC K DELUXE WASPINATOR

In any case, we have official images now. Amazon also has listings and images for Pipes and Slammer. The Pipes images show that he does indeed come with 2 guns and the images for Slammer finally show us his chainsaw weapon as well as his weaponizer configuration.

Pipes: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08P3T7FC8/re ... formers-20

Slammer: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08P3S4QKX/re ... formers-20

I know we’ve already seen Slammer multiple times, but man he is shaping up to be my favorite from this wave. That tank mode is pure murder brick of death with a jovial face and I love it. Pipes is good looking, as is Waspinator. No interest in Shadow Panther. Glad I was able to get my orders in for what I want from this wave over at BBTS, just wondering when (plain, non-mutant) Tigatron will be available.

Emerje wrote:Why haven't they put the Target exclusives on Pulse yet? I would happily renew my membership if it got me a Worlds Collide set. I've been able to get almost all of the Target exclusives from Target.com, but every time the WC set goes up it sells out instantly. One time I had one in my cart and it sold out before I could complete checkout, this morning I was there 3 minutes after getting an email saying it was back in stock and it was already gone.

Emerje

Agreed. I've not had an issue getting a Target exclusive set up until now. It's kind of crazy.

Just got a shipping notice for kingdom road rage form target. I didn't think she was supposed to be out until November? It might be old news (I don't follow this thread) but wanted to share anyway.

I jumped on the BBTS wave 4 preorder just in case it's really all 4 new figures. I don't want Shadow Panther so he'll be finding a new home but it's easier to order the full set. If they revise the listing and/or I find the figures at retail I'll drop it, because man that's a pricey order.

LinaNui wrote:Just got a shipping notice for kingdom road rage form target. I didn't think she was supposed to be out until November? It might be old news (I don't follow this thread) but wanted to share anyway.

No, Draculus was November, Road Rage was October. Looking forward to getting mine as well.

I got Mirage and Grimlock today. This is my first time owning the Mirage mould, and while the robot mode is nice, the transformation is fiddly and nothing fits together properly in vehicle mode, unless I did something wrong. There's also a few issues with paint apps on my Mirage, there's a scuff of stray white paint going over the blue on his spoiler, and one of the 26's on his sides is slightly wonky, going upwarsd ever so slightly.
Grimlock meanwhile is a good repaint of the Dinobot mould, he looks nice from a lot of angles and I like the new head. I never had the original Beast Wars Grimlock so I have no real nostalgia for it, so the inaccurate paint job doesn't annoy me that much.

As for wave 4, as nice as it is that we have official product images now...I don't understand why we couldn't have got them a month and a half ago. Waspinator and Tigatron are the only things I want from this wave, but I'm not even excited to buy them any more, because the wait for an official reveal and pre-orders has been so frustratingly long.

So, do we know yet who WFC-K36 is? I guess it could be Blaster if the rumor about him being in a Voyager 5th wave is correct?

Pipes and Slammer getting split up into a later wave is a shame since Slammer is the only one I really want, but at least as others have stated, the pre-order I made on Amazon months ago should hopefully be valid (the pics are there now), though I will eat the packaging if it shows up at my home on October 5th .

Some folks are reporting seeing wave 4 at Target, I still have yet to see wave 3 deluxes anywhere (I have the ones I want, I just haven't seen them in a store yet, I just like to keep tabs on what's going on at retail). Last year I never saw ER Wave 3 at retail either, though I saw all the Target exclusive 1 item each, 1 time.

Although the idea of getting items to move has been more successful, it seems the trend of getting items of latter waves is still an issue. I hope everyone who wants Slammer and Pipes get them, but I highly recommend ordering online because the likelihood of seeing these at retail, at least in the U.S., is going to be slim I fear.

o.supreme wrote:S
Some folks are reporting seeing wave 4 at Target, I still have yet to see wave 3 deluxes anywhere (I have the ones I want, I just haven't seen them in a store yet, I just like to keep tabs on what's going on at retail). Last year I never saw ER Wave 3 at retail either, though I saw all the Target exclusive 1 item each, 1 time.

I've seen photos. This was even in Maryland. I've not seen them myself, though.

Blaster will be a weird one. My guess is that he will be K-36 which would put him at the end of the numbering for regular releases and ahead of the exclusives. But, I find it pretty odd that they would release a Blaster without any cassettes to go with him. Maybe with the possibility of a SG Soundwave, they will revisit the cassette packs in selects or some other means of getting them out.

I got Shadow Panther in store yesterday... I assumed he was more common elsewhere?

o.supreme wrote:So, do we know yet who WFC-K36 is? I guess it could be Blaster if the rumor about him being in a Voyager 5th wave is correct?

The initial set of leaks for Kingdom mentioned a Voyager Starscream, an unchanged re-release of the Earthrise toy. I'm guessing K-36 will either be that, or it could have been changed to Blaster, though it's also possible that Blaster isn't coming out in Kingdom any more and will instead debut in Legacy wave 1.

sol magnus wrote:

o.supreme wrote:S
Some folks are reporting seeing wave 4 at Target, I still have yet to see wave 3 deluxes anywhere (I have the ones I want, I just haven't seen them in a store yet, I just like to keep tabs on what's going on at retail). Last year I never saw ER Wave 3 at retail either, though I saw all the Target exclusive 1 item each, 1 time.

I've seen photos. This was even in Maryland. I've not seen them myself, though.

I picked up a Waspinator at one of my local Targets (which was really funny to me since that Target didn't get anything past Wave 1)

Me and some friends found Shadow Panther at GameStop (formerly EB Games) in Victoria, BC last week. Naturally we all snagged one. Amusingly he nor any other figures in this wave even have product listings on their website.

Psst, hey Amazon, you were supposed to put up Golden Disk Terrorsaur about 7 minutes ago...

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Psst, hey Amazon, you were supposed to put up Golden Disk Terrorsaur about 7 minutes ago...

I haven't got an email from pulse yet but here it is:

https://hasbropulse.com/products/transf ... terrorsaur

Amazon sometimes is just a little slow, they'll have it up soon enough I'd imagine

A heavy Airazor retool


here is Amazon's link though it currently says "unavailable"

https://www.amazon.com/dp/b08tqszqcx?ta ... formers-20

...and now just for the email at 10:14 my time

I remember when I made the comment that after having Airrazor in hand, I said "I can totally see Terrorsaur here", and people were like, naaaaaaaw no way. then the leak came that said this Terrorsaur was a reskinned Airrazor, and people were like, NAAAAAAAW no way.



told ya so


that being said, he's not as glorious as I would have liked. Personally I think his wings should have been bigger with an extra fold joint so they compact a wee bit more. but given his animation model is considered "impossible to reproduce in toy form" I still think its a good compromise. Also he can breathe fire now. Yay.

terrosaurs a must for me, would have liked him to be voyager but it's great to actually want a beastwars character with most of the Kingdoms beasts being a bit pants.