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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rtron » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:46 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:Given that Earthrise Sunstreaker is STILL sold out (if indeed it ever WAS available), this may be the only way some people can get the mold is through this set....


This is a completely different mold from Sunstreaker.

As for Nightprowler: Maybe we'll get a third box set, Nightprowler & earthmode Hound? Just speculating.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:50 pm

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What I'd like to see packed with Nightprowler would be either a redeco of Waspinator as Skywasp, or a redeco of Blackarachnia as Crystal Widow, both colored like their respective unreleased Holloween Horrorcons from the 2003 Universe line, and given the names of those who look like these decos.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:59 pm

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Razorbeast88 wrote:Fair enough but why would a unicron minion not be considered? It's a battle Across Time, at some point in time Cyclonus is no longer attached to unicron. Plus they could've just as easily written in a decepticon from siege or earthrise. Could've even been scorponok and Blackarachnia teaming up
A lot of this assumptions on my part, but here's what I think is happening here:
-They don't want to mention Siege/ER stuff because they're trying to cross-sell figures in the current line by mentioning them
-Haslab Unicron is out at this point, and since that is technically the WFC Unicron, I assume they want to keep Galvatron & Cyclonus associated with him as opposed to free Decepticons (which also helps them sell the SS86 Scourge & others)
-We know at this point that some of the Golden Disk card futures are "becomes a Herald of Unicron" in the same way some of them are "becomes a Maximal" or "becomes a Decepticon", which further seems to indicate that Hasbro might potentially be treating Unicron-affiliation as basically it's own unofficial faction right now
-There could be reasoning for it related to the Netflix show (seeing as how that's where things like the Mercenary faction, the ER map, and the versus aspect of the Siege vote really actually came into play)

Razorbeast88 wrote:Just to be clear it really doesn't matter lol I just wanted an excuse to say smolone but I wouldnt say there weren't at least a couple of other options
Also fair. :lol:

Sabrblade wrote:What I'd like to see packed with Nightprowler would be either a redeco of Waspinator as Skywasp, or a redeco of Blackarachnia as Crystal Widow, both colored like their respective unreleased Holloween Horrorcons from the 2003 Universe line, and given the names of those who look like these decos.

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Ooh, a full-on Horrorcon multipack would be cool, and we do know Blackarachnia's alternate head sculpt is her toy head...but we'd need to wait for the next wave to be revealed before that'll become a possibility.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:02 pm

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Seems like pretty logical assumptions to me, fair enough haha
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby megamanfan » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:15 pm

weird how both the promo pics and official artwork have the eagle talons forwards instead of turnign them around like airazor.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:20 pm

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megamanfan wrote:weird how both the promo pics and official artwork have the eagle talons forwards instead of turnign them around like airazor.


That actually is consistent with the BWII animation model:
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The original toy as assembled have them pointing back in robot mode, but they're easily swapped.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:20 pm

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megamanfan wrote:weird how both the promo pics and official artwork have the eagle talons forwards instead of turnign them around like airazor.
Skywarp had forward swung toes on his cartoon model.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nuclearxpotato » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:43 pm

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Man, I hope there's still a Nightprowler in the works. Not sure if I'd prefer a Tigatron or Cheetor redeco, however. (Maybe Tigatron so he's more beefy)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby DeathReviews » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:56 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:Given that Earthrise Sunstreaker is STILL sold out (if indeed it ever WAS available), this may be the only way some people can get the mold is through this set....


This is a completely different mold from Sunstreaker.


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I donno - on Pulse they're still showing the renders - but it has the ridges on the back, the pattern on the windows.... Granted I've never seen the actual Sunstreaker figure (because it's never been available). The hubcaps look different, and the heads. But beyond that, they look pretty darn close to me.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:00 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
DeathReviews wrote:
Rtron wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Given that Earthrise Sunstreaker is STILL sold out (if indeed it ever WAS available), this may be the only way some people can get the mold is through this set....


This is a completely different mold from Sunstreaker.


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I donno - on Pulse they're still showing the renders - but they look pretty darn close to me...


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Pay close attention to the seams.

Also, Sunstreaker has (parts of) Wheeljack's transformation scheme.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:17 pm

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Yeah it's not a retool of streaker, just a re shelling of Sideswipe, all you have to do is look at robot mode
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Unicron Magnus » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:24 pm

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The fact that they're going with the "Skywarp" name for the eagle makes me hopeful that we'll see the Fuzor Silverbolt in the near future. :-?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:45 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:
Rtron wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Given that Earthrise Sunstreaker is STILL sold out (if indeed it ever WAS available), this may be the only way some people can get the mold is through this set....


This is a completely different mold from Sunstreaker.


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I donno - on Pulse they're still showing the renders - but it has the ridges on the back, the pattern on the windows.... Granted I've never seen the actual Sunstreaker figure (because it's never been available). The hubcaps look different, and the heads. But beyond that, they look pretty darn close to me.
How easily you forget that Sideswipe and Sunstreaker are supposed to have the same altmode but completely different-mold robot modes.

Case in point:

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Most notably, Earthrise's Sunstreaker's car hood forms his feet. This Sideswipe's hood is his torso.
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Whereas Sideswipe's basic structure is a perfect match for his Siege toy:
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Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Munkky » Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:48 pm

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Unicron Magnus wrote:The fact that they're going with the "Skywarp" name for the eagle makes me hopeful that we'll see the Fuzor Silverbolt in the near future. :-?

This is what I'm hoping for as well, even if it isn't in Kingdom but a later toyline, a new Fuzor Silverbolt toy would be awesome to have.

DeathReviews wrote:
Rtron wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:Given that Earthrise Sunstreaker is STILL sold out (if indeed it ever WAS available), this may be the only way some people can get the mold is through this set....


This is a completely different mold from Sunstreaker.


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I donno - on Pulse they're still showing the renders - but it has the ridges on the back, the pattern on the windows.... Granted I've never seen the actual Sunstreaker figure (because it's never been available). The hubcaps look different, and the heads. But beyond that, they look pretty darn close to me.

Damn, these two would look really nice alongside my Earthrise Optimus and Wheeljack. It's funny, I've never cared all that much about G1 Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Mirage or Huffer, but now I want them all as accessories!
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby primalxconvoy » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:09 pm

I'll be getting this. I'm glad I didn't bother with the "cr@pple-damage" Seige version. Now I can enjoy this new one, alongside the clean, Seige repaints (Tigertrack, etc). Now, if they can hurry up and release Springer and Galvatron without the gunk on them, all will be well.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby RLTW-N64-3D » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:14 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:34 pm

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Sideswipe looks so good, makes me sad I never got Sunstreaker.

Wonder if they'll decide to re-release him like they did with Wheeljack. Wheeljack got three releases. Siege, Netflix and the Kingdom repack.

Wonder if they'll repack Sunstreaker in a future wave or something.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:37 pm

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Oh man, imagine if they rerelease this sideswipe as a solo deluxe in the next line?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby primalxconvoy » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:58 pm

Overcracker wrote:Sideswipe looks so good, makes me sad I never got Sunstreaker.

Wonder if they'll decide to re-release him like they did with Wheeljack. Wheeljack got three releases. Siege, Netflix and the Kingdom repack.

Wonder if they'll repack Sunstreaker in a future wave or something.


That would be lovely.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:48 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Sideswipe looks so good, makes me sad I never got Sunstreaker.

Wonder if they'll decide to re-release him like they did with Wheeljack. Wheeljack got three releases. Siege, Netflix and the Kingdom repack.

Wonder if they'll repack Sunstreaker in a future wave or something.


That would be lovely.


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:51 pm

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I just don't see the differences with this new Sideswipe. They couldn't give us a spoiler? I'm still buying it for sure, I'm just glad we're getting ALL the weapons.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:59 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I just don't see the differences with this new Sideswipe. They couldn't give us a spoiler? I'm still buying it for sure, I'm just glad we're getting ALL the weapons.


I'm guessing the spoiler would have been too difficult with how the back portion of the car becomes his knees and some of the car ends up inside his legs. There may not be enough clearance inside, or it would have put the parts count too high.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:46 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I just don't see the differences with this new Sideswipe. They couldn't give us a spoiler? I'm still buying it for sure, I'm just glad we're getting ALL the weapons.


I'm guessing the spoiler would have been too difficult with how the back portion of the car becomes his knees and some of the car ends up inside his legs. There may not be enough clearance inside, or it would have put the parts count too high.

It also might veer a little too close to an actual Lambo to the point where HasTak would need to liscense it. If I recall, Sunstreaker was already pushing the boundaries, especially with the accurate tire rims
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