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War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:39 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Saw these yesterday. It is interesting that they didn't include the cab swivel/pivot for Road Ranger, so he could be an exact copy of Huffer.


Could you explain that? Road Ranger is the alt-head retool of Huffer and has the cab facing up, while Puffer is made from the Pipes version of the tooling and has the cab facing back.


Sure. The only difference in the Transformation of Kindgom Pipes vs Kingdom Huffer is that they added a swivel on the back of the Cab, so, as you say the cab can face backward. I just thought since Road Ranger was likely produced later, I'm not sure why they just didn't keep the swivel (although unnecessary, since he is as you say a Huffer Repaint (except for the head)), instead of switching back, and eliminating it just t be exactly like Huffer.


It's possible that swivel is gang-molded with the Pipes parts, thus for Pipes only. Hey, one less point of breakage.


That would be my guess as well. His 2 guns and whatever new parts including the swivel are probably all on the same mold and can only be used together.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:49 pm

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Finally saw Wave 3 Deluxes in store for the first time, at Target. Or at least I saw two Tracks and two Wheeljacks there. Already have them so I was hoping for wave 4. Still no Worlds Collide set, might have to turn to eBay or beg my neighbors to the north for that set soon since it hasn't been restocked (if being available for 3 minutes in the middle of the night and being scooped up by bots counts as restocking) on Target.com for a month or more.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:19 pm

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Emerje wrote:Finally saw Wave 3 Deluxes in store for the first time, at Target. Or at least I saw two Tracks and two Wheeljacks there. Already have them so I was hoping for wave 4. Still no Worlds Collide set, might have to turn to eBay or beg my neighbors to the north for that set soon since it hasn't been restocked (if being available for 3 minutes in the middle of the night and being scooped up by bots counts as restocking) on Target.com for a month or more.

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I can provide it rather easily. Problem is you'll be paying quite a bit for it. It's $105 USD before shipping, so somewhere around $150 total.

This listing here is better than how much you'd pay by going through any canadian friend

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255129114817?h ... SwkIRhOpOK
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:16 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:53 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Finally saw Wave 3 Deluxes in store for the first time, at Target. Or at least I saw two Tracks and two Wheeljacks there. Already have them so I was hoping for wave 4. Still no Worlds Collide set, might have to turn to eBay or beg my neighbors to the north for that set soon since it hasn't been restocked (if being available for 3 minutes in the middle of the night and being scooped up by bots counts as restocking) on Target.com for a month or more.

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I can provide it rather easily. Problem is you'll be paying quite a bit for it. It's $105 USD before shipping, so somewhere around $150 total.

This listing here is better than how much you'd pay by going through any canadian friend

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255129114817?h ... SwkIRhOpOK

Yeah, but then I'd have to give my money to a scalper so I'm trying to resist it. How much to ship loose? :-? :-D It's going to be a little while longer before I can go that rout, as I prepare for my new job money isn't going to be entirely consistent for a few weeks next month.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Munkky » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:35 am

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:15 am

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Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Finally saw Wave 3 Deluxes in store for the first time, at Target. Or at least I saw two Tracks and two Wheeljacks there. Already have them so I was hoping for wave 4. Still no Worlds Collide set, might have to turn to eBay or beg my neighbors to the north for that set soon since it hasn't been restocked (if being available for 3 minutes in the middle of the night and being scooped up by bots counts as restocking) on Target.com for a month or more.

Emerje


I can provide it rather easily. Problem is you'll be paying quite a bit for it. It's $105 USD before shipping, so somewhere around $150 total.

This listing here is better than how much you'd pay by going through any canadian friend

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255129114817?h ... SwkIRhOpOK

Yeah, but then I'd have to give my money to a scalper so I'm trying to resist it. How much to ship loose? :-? :-D It's going to be a little while longer before I can go that rout, as I prepare for my new job money isn't going to be entirely consistent for a few weeks next month.

Emerje


It would end up around the same price as that misb set on eBay.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Autobot N » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:44 am

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby RiddlerJ » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:34 am

For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:35 am

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RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.


I have a stress mark on the windshield roof from tabbing and untabbing from the hood hooks.

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Outside ion that and the tiny stress mark on the pin holding the leg panel in he's fine.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby RiddlerJ » Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:03 am

Overcracker wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.


I have a stress mark on the windshield roof from tabbing and untabbing from the hood hooks.

The attachment Stressmark_Tracks.jpg is no longer available


Outside ion that and the tiny stress mark on the pin holding the leg panel in he's fine.


That windshield roof tab terrifies me. It has to clip in so tight.

But one thing that I haven't read about is that the transformation joints on Tracks shoulders are so tight that flipping them in and out cause stress marks on mine. I circled where on the pic (the pic isn't mine it's just for reference). There's also stress marks on the front car panels for some reason.

There's just so much wrong with this figure. I wanted Road Rage but am now reconsidering.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby AcademyofDrX » Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:17 am

RiddlerJ wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.


I have a stress mark on the windshield roof from tabbing and untabbing from the hood hooks.

Stressmark_Tracks.jpg


Outside ion that and the tiny stress mark on the pin holding the leg panel in he's fine.


That windshield roof tab terrifies me. It has to clip in so tight.

But one thing that I haven't read about is that the transformation joints on Tracks shoulders are so tight that flipping them in and out cause stress marks on mine. I circled where on the pic (the pic isn't mine it's just for reference). There's also stress marks on the front car panels for some reason.

There's just so much wrong with this figure. I wanted Road Rage but am now reconsidering.

Kingdom-Deluxe-Tracks-01-e1620748930807.png

It's definitely over-engineered and disappointing, but are stress marks really a deal-breaker? I'm at the point where I'm pretty much okay with anything short of outright breakage, and I don't have an assumption that they're going to remain completely intact forever.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby RiddlerJ » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:05 am

AcademyofDrX wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.


I have a stress mark on the windshield roof from tabbing and untabbing from the hood hooks.

Stressmark_Tracks.jpg


Outside ion that and the tiny stress mark on the pin holding the leg panel in he's fine.


That windshield roof tab terrifies me. It has to clip in so tight.

But one thing that I haven't read about is that the transformation joints on Tracks shoulders are so tight that flipping them in and out cause stress marks on mine. I circled where on the pic (the pic isn't mine it's just for reference). There's also stress marks on the front car panels for some reason.

There's just so much wrong with this figure. I wanted Road Rage but am now reconsidering.

Kingdom-Deluxe-Tracks-01-e1620748930807.png

It's definitely over-engineered and disappointing, but are stress marks really a deal-breaker? I'm at the point where I'm pretty much okay with anything short of outright breakage, and I don't have an assumption that they're going to remain completely intact forever.


I was just watching a youtube review and his copy has stress marks in the same spot so I know it's just not my copy.


The stress marks, on their own wouldn't be, but people are right about the other issues the figure has.

The clear plastic + tight tabbing required makes him seem very fragile
The crappy legs that have loose joints, and just come apart, and are needlessly complicated to transform, AND have the product code right on the front where you can't miss it.
Heck, even the arms have clearance issues because the wheels hit the chest.

All of these seem like minor thing but such a large collection of them make me wonder how rushed this mold was. Was there any quality testing after he was finished?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:32 am

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RiddlerJ wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.


I have a stress mark on the windshield roof from tabbing and untabbing from the hood hooks.

Stressmark_Tracks.jpg


Outside ion that and the tiny stress mark on the pin holding the leg panel in he's fine.


That windshield roof tab terrifies me. It has to clip in so tight.

But one thing that I haven't read about is that the transformation joints on Tracks shoulders are so tight that flipping them in and out cause stress marks on mine. I circled where on the pic (the pic isn't mine it's just for reference). There's also stress marks on the front car panels for some reason.

There's just so much wrong with this figure. I wanted Road Rage but am now reconsidering.

Kingdom-Deluxe-Tracks-01-e1620748930807.png

It's definitely over-engineered and disappointing, but are stress marks really a deal-breaker? I'm at the point where I'm pretty much okay with anything short of outright breakage, and I don't have an assumption that they're going to remain completely intact forever.


I was just watching a youtube review and his copy has stress marks in the same spot so I know it's just not my copy.


The stress marks, on their own wouldn't be, but people are right about the other issues the figure has.

The clear plastic + tight tabbing required makes him seem very fragile
The crappy legs that have loose joints, and just come apart, and are needlessly complicated to transform, AND have the product code right on the front where you can't miss it.
Heck, even the arms have clearance issues because the wheels hit the chest.

All of these seem like minor thing but such a large collection of them make me wonder how rushed this mold was. Was there any quality testing after he was finished?


There leg panels at least can be fixed. They won't be 100% solidly tabbed in because the tabs are just too shallow for any sort of purchase, but at least they stay in place better.

The windshield slot is super tight and I'm not sure I want to keep transforming him just because of that.

I have no stress marks on the chest hinges nor do the tires actually hit the chest, I can rotate them 360 degrees just fine.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby RiddlerJ » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:58 am

Overcracker wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:For some of you that have had Tracks for a while now, is he still holding together or flying apart as many people have feared.

I finally picked him up an am terrified of doing anything with him, given how tight the transparent plastic has to tab together. Not to mention, I transformed him once and already see stress marks on parts of him.


I have a stress mark on the windshield roof from tabbing and untabbing from the hood hooks.

The attachment Stressmark_Tracks.jpg is no longer available


Outside ion that and the tiny stress mark on the pin holding the leg panel in he's fine.


That windshield roof tab terrifies me. It has to clip in so tight.

But one thing that I haven't read about is that the transformation joints on Tracks shoulders are so tight that flipping them in and out cause stress marks on mine. I circled where on the pic (the pic isn't mine it's just for reference). There's also stress marks on the front car panels for some reason.

There's just so much wrong with this figure. I wanted Road Rage but am now reconsidering.

The attachment Kingdom-Deluxe-Tracks-01-e1620748930807.png is no longer available

It's definitely over-engineered and disappointing, but are stress marks really a deal-breaker? I'm at the point where I'm pretty much okay with anything short of outright breakage, and I don't have an assumption that they're going to remain completely intact forever.


I was just watching a youtube review and his copy has stress marks in the same spot so I know it's just not my copy.


The stress marks, on their own wouldn't be, but people are right about the other issues the figure has.

The clear plastic + tight tabbing required makes him seem very fragile
The crappy legs that have loose joints, and just come apart, and are needlessly complicated to transform, AND have the product code right on the front where you can't miss it.
Heck, even the arms have clearance issues because the wheels hit the chest.

All of these seem like minor thing but such a large collection of them make me wonder how rushed this mold was. Was there any quality testing after he was finished?


There leg panels at least can be fixed. They won't be 100% solidly tabbed in because the tabs are just too shallow for any sort of purchase, but at least they stay in place better.

The windshield slot is super tight and I'm not sure I want to keep transforming him just because of that.

I have no stress marks on the chest hinges nor do the tires actually hit the chest, I can rotate them 360 degrees just fine.


Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I can raise the arms but the edge of the tires hit the chest.
and here's the kind of stress marks I have on mine.

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Like I said, they're little things, but there's so many little things on this figure, I found it annoying. I'm usually pretty forgiving of figures. Even Earthrise Arcee didn't annoy me like this figure did, maybe because she's just lazy as opposed to fragile.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:09 pm

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Zoomed in real close, and can't see any signs of actual stress there. Maybe just a small one on the left side. and what appears to be a plastic blemish or defect on the other side. Not sure I'd qualify those as stress marks.

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The tire can rub a bit on the shoulder piece but it should really not prevent it from actually rotating past it.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:13 pm

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Lore Keeper wrote:Has anybody's Waspinator and Shadow Panther shipped yet? It's been four days now.


??? Where did you pre-order from, there are no sites I am aware of that have official pre-orders available, which is what makes the instore sighting both intriguing, but also frustrating.

There's a website called Toy Snowman. They had a news alert about it here a few days ago. Be warned, if you live in the US, you'll pay a LOT more for it.


Only because of shipping though, since it's from Canada. A US friend tried ordering and the conversion worked, they did not cost 30+USD. So if that's an issue with your order, contact them.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:25 pm

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My Tracks is still MISB, reading all these posts is scaring me about handling him... :lol:

Do I get Kingdom Waspinator, or do I overpay for the more accurate T30 version? :-?
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Rodimus Prime wrote:My Tracks is still MISB, reading all these posts is scaring me about handling him... :lol:

Do I get Kingdom Waspinator, or do I overpay for the more accurate T30 version? :-?


If you want T-30 Waspinator I can go to my local Geek Stuff. Used and complete for the price of a regular deluxe. I'll just give him a ride along Megs.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:14 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:My Tracks is still MISB, reading all these posts is scaring me about handling him... :lol:

Do I get Kingdom Waspinator, or do I overpay for the more accurate T30 version? :-?


If you want T-30 Waspinator I can go to my local Geek Stuff. Used and complete for the price of a regular deluxe. I'll just give him a ride along Megs.

If you can find either of them to trade, you'd get yourself a deal:
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If you cant have any of them, list me a few deluxes you can offer. ;)^
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
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Rodimus Prime wrote:My Tracks is still MISB, reading all these posts is scaring me about handling him... :lol:

Do I get Kingdom Waspinator, or do I overpay for the more accurate T30 version? :-?


If you want T-30 Waspinator I can go to my local Geek Stuff. Used and complete for the price of a regular deluxe. I'll just give him a ride along Megs.

If you can find either of them to trade, you'd get yourself a deal:
SS86 Gnaw
Kingdom Scorponok
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SS Barricade
If you cant have any of them, list me a few deluxes you can offer. ;)^
A PM will be sent in short order. ;)^



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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:54 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:23 am

Razorbeast88 wrote:Got notice from Amazon that my Grimlock and Mirage two pack should be arriving on Tuesday


Same here. It is going to be a good weekend and beginning of next week. Sideswipe/Skywarp arrive today, Tricranius tomorrow, SS Jolt on Monday and Grimlock/Mirage on Tuesday.

Now I just need to find something on Sunday in store like Wreck Gar, Sweep or Gnaw to make things perfect.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:46 am

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:55 am

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not going to criticize the source. However, unlike most of his reviews, I wonder whether this is an actual final product. Just the off-white of the body with the pure white of the arms & mid section seem off. If this is the final look I'd be surprised, but I guess we will see.
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