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War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:46 am

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Razorbeast88 wrote:Awesome!!!!! I still can't decide if I wanna save money and only get Pipes or skip pipes and go for this set. Decisions decisions

Looks like the next golden disk set is gonna have yet another wheeljack. Wackkkkkkk. Whackjack.


Im skipping Pipes and going for the set.

I'm hoping there is a Wheeljack in the golden sets so he can have the correct torso shape :P I only picked up Netflix version because it was cheeeeap.


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:00 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
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Razorbeast88 wrote:Looks like the next golden disk set is gonna have yet another wheeljack. Wackkkkkkk. Whackjack.
Or it's a placeholder pic, like all those Sideswipe silhouettes from last year's Galactic Odyssey Collection.


Ahhhhhhhhh I stand corrected. That makes much more sense!
Can't wait to see what tigatron looks like! Whatever chapter that may be
No wait. Something's off about that pic. The head an arms look the same, but everything else looks different. It's some kind of Wheeljack retool.


Ah. Back to whackjack it is, what a ride this has been hahaha
Aren't the silhouettes based off art and not the actual figure proportions though? I'm pretty sure the Sideswipes weren't perfect matches either.

Plus, we already know the other Golden Disk figures are Terrorsaur, Jackpot, and some form of Tigatron, so unless one of them is a multipack that doesn't mention the other figure in the listing or Jackpot is for whatever reason a Wheeljack retool despite him matching the Jazz mold wayyy better, that should still just be a placeholder.

In fact, since we know those figures are coming, and the description is saying these sets have lore based on a timeline divergence at what we know as the beginning of Season 2 of BW, I'm gonna go ahead and make some risk-free predictions:
-Jackpot is the other one that comes through the vortex, and either is an Action Master that gains an altmode from this process or is being retconned into being an upgraded form of someone else like Puffer is
-Terrorsaur is in this because in this new timeline, he doesn't get knocked into the lava and killed off during the hit of the transwarp wave
-Tigatron is either going to be the prototype orange recolor retconned as an upgraded form for him, or he's going to be a Botcon-inspired Transmetal repaint of Pulsecon Ravage, hence why the listing has always been just Tigatron and not a separate character repaint

Also I just realized that this going up means that Hasbro has now technically officially revealed the Pipes mold via an exclusive repaint before they actually revealed the base mold or ANY OF THE REST of Kingdom's last 2 waves. Frickin Puffer got revealed before the currently-in-stores Waspinator and Shadow Panther.

EDIT: ....actually, wait, they call out the Golden Disk subline as being specifically 4 PACKS, they might all have multiple figures yet...
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Bounti76 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:08 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Looks like the next golden disk set is gonna have yet another wheeljack. Wackkkkkkk. Whackjack.
Or it's a placeholder pic, like all those Sideswipe silhouettes from last year's Galactic Odyssey Collection.


Ahhhhhhhhh I stand corrected. That makes much more sense!
Can't wait to see what tigatron looks like! Whatever chapter that may be
No wait. Something's off about that pic. The head an arms look the same, but everything else looks different. It's some kind of Wheeljack retool.


Ah. Back to whackjack it is, what a ride this has been hahaha
Aren't the silhouettes based off art and not the actual figure proportions though? I'm pretty sure the Sideswipes weren't perfect matches either.

Plus, we already know the other Golden Disk figures are Terrorsaur, Jackpot, and some form of Tigatron, so unless one of them is a multipack that doesn't mention the other figure in the listing or Jackpot is for whatever reason a Wheeljack retool despite him matching the Jazz mold wayyy better, that should still just be a placeholder.

In fact, since we know those figures are coming, and the description is saying these sets have lore based on a timeline divergence at what we know as the beginning of Season 2 of BW, I'm gonna go ahead and make some risk-free predictions:
-Jackpot is the other one that comes through the vortex, and either is an Action Master that gains an altmode from this process or is being retconned into being an upgraded form of someone else like Puffer is
-Terrorsaur is in this because in this new timeline, he doesn't get knocked into the lava and killed off during the hit of the transwarp wave
-Tigatron is either going to be the prototype orange recolor retconned as an upgraded form for him, or he's going to be a Botcon-inspired Transmetal repaint of Pulsecon Ravage, hence why the listing has always been just Tigatron and not a separate character repaint

Also I just realized that this going up means that Hasbro has now technically officially revealed the Pipes mold via an exclusive repaint before they actually revealed the base mold or ANY OF THE REST of Kingdom's last 2 waves. Frickin Puffer got revealed before the currently-in-stores Waspinator and Shadow Panther.

EDIT: ....actually, wait, they call out the Golden Disk subline as being specifically 4 PACKS, they might all have multiple figures yet...



Tigatron won't be a Golden Disk figure, unless it's a retool or a redeco. He's coming in Wave 4 Kingdom as a Voyager.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:10 pm

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Bounti76 wrote:Tigatron won't be a Golden Disk figure, unless it's a retool or a redeco. He's coming in Wave 4 Kingdom as a Voyager.
I know about retail Tigatron, but we've had separate listings for both retail Tigatron and a Golden Disk Tigatron for months now, hence why I'm speculating how the Golden Disk one is going to be different.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:11 pm

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Bounti76 wrote:Tigatron won't be a Golden Disk figure, unless it's a retool or a redeco. He's coming in Wave 4 Kingdom as a Voyager.
Orange Tigatron, not white Tigatron.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:15 pm

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If we’re already getting Jackpot, meaning that Action Masters are on the table, and we’re getting a repaint and/or retool of Wheeljack, my bet is that we will see Slicer in one of these sets. I’d also not be surprised to see a repaint of Warpath as Treads.

Also, let’s not discount the possibility of a “screen accurate” redeco of Tigatron that ditches the more realistic tan fur highlights of the mass retail release.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:19 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:If we’re already getting Jackpot, meaning that Action Masters are on the table, and we’re getting a repaint and/or retool of Wheeljack, my bet is that we will see Slicer in one of these sets. I’d also not be surprised to see a repaint of Warpath as Treads.
Why would they do Slicer if they're doing Shattered Glass Wheeljack next year? Barring the faction symbols and the names on the packaging, they're the same figure/deco.

Treds would be nice though.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Also, let’s not discount the possibility of a “screen accurate” redeco of Tigatron that ditches the tan fur highlights of the mass retail release.
...that doesn't really feel alternate-timeline enough to make sense here, how would they justify that being in here?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:20 pm

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With ER I believe when the Galactic Odyssey sets were announced we knew there would be 5 (and some if not most of the contents). I know some of the contents of the Golden Disk line have been leaked, but do we know exactly how many sets there will be?

Although I thought the GO sets were neat, I only ended up getting the the Botropolis one. I'm hoping at least one of these Golden Disk sets will be fossilizer-centric.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:25 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:If we’re already getting Jackpot, meaning that Action Masters are on the table, and we’re getting a repaint and/or retool of Wheeljack, my bet is that we will see Slicer in one of these sets.
Don't forget that SG Wheeljack is also rumored for the SG line, which would already be Slicer colored.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:29 pm

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o.supreme wrote:With ER I believe when the Galactic Odyssey sets were announced we knew there would be 5 (and some if not most of the contents). I know some of the contents of the Golden Disk line have been leaked, but do we know exactly how many sets there will be?
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Transformers Kingdom Golden Disk Set 1 Revealed to be Puffer and Road Ranger

Postby Bounti76 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:30 pm

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Thanks to several Seibertronians for sending in this news, we now have official confirmation and reveals of Kingdom Puffer and Road Ranger!

The description given with these two has some very interesting information. It says the Golden Disk has the power to reveal past, present, and future. In alternate timelines, the quantum surge that turned Beast Wars characters into Transmetals caught up Road Ranger from his timeline, specifically calling him out as a GoBot, and describes Pipes and Huffer being caught up in another wave of quantum energy and arriving on prehistoric Earth fused together as Puffer!

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These two are coming in the first of four Golden Disk sets exclusive to Amazon, with the others yet to be revealed. This set can be preordered at Amazon now, but it's currently sold out on Hasbro Pulse, though it may be restocked at a later point, as Red Alert was.

What do you think of this set? Excited to get it? Going for more GoBots to show up in the Transformers line? Hoping for more highly obscure decos to show up as new toys? Let us know what you think by sounding off in the Energon Pub forums.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:33 pm

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o.supreme wrote:With ER I believe when the Galactic Odyssey sets were announced we knew there would be 5 (and some if not most of the contents). I know some of the contents of the Golden Disk line have been leaked, but do we know exactly how many sets there will be?
Amazon and Pulse say there are 4 packs, and we had 4 listings (Terrorsaur, "Ranger/Puffer", Jackpot, & Tigatron) but this one was the only one to mention multiple figures in the listing, so if they are all multipacks then we only know at most half of each set's contents.

o.supreme wrote:Although I thought the GO sets were neat, I only ended up getting the the Botropolis one.
As did I, although the line-up we know of for these sounds way more solid to me that the GO sets were (considering half of those were either straight rereleases or new mold versions of characters I just bought in Siege).
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:34 pm

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Thank you ;)^ . But "coming soon" is a pretty generic name for the other chapters. ;)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Gearslide » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:49 pm

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Aren't Shattered Glass Pipes and Huffer colored like these fellas?

At least in the original Shattered Glass universe.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:53 pm

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Gearslide wrote:Aren't Shattered Glass Pipes and Huffer colored like these fellas?

At least in the original Shattered Glass universe.
SG Huffer is Movie Armorhide colors.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Munkky » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:05 pm

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Road Ranger actually looks really good, I like the black and orange deco and the red windows. I am slightly annoyed that Puffer has been officially revealed before Pipes, and while Puffer is a stupid name, it's cute how they've made a fan nickname official. I won't be buying this set, but I'll definitely be getting the Terrorsaur one when the pre-order goes up. If they are all two-packs it'll be exciting to see what Terrorsaur comes with, and these sets could also potentially be where we get an Earth mode retool for Hound, wild speculation of course but I could definitely see it happening. At this point though I really really really hope that the standard retail version of Tigatron is revealed and goes up for pre-order before the Golden Disk Tigatron...
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:44 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:If we’re already getting Jackpot, meaning that Action Masters are on the table, and we’re getting a repaint and/or retool of Wheeljack, my bet is that we will see Slicer in one of these sets.
Don't forget that SG Wheeljack is also rumored for the SG line, which would already be Slicer colored.


That is true, but Hasbro may choose to go a different way with Shattered Glass Wheeljack. The SG figures released so far tend to eschew the alt modes they had in the Fun Pub stories and toys and instead repaint the G1 character. SG Megatron is the exception so far with his extra kibble and alternate transformation scheme. SG Ratchet’s colors are very different too from that 2-pack last year. Who’s to say that Hasbro’s SG Wheeljack will or won’t be identical to G1 Slicer? Remember, we already have Kingdom Road Rage on the way soon. Will Hasbro skip SG Tracks altogether just because the colors have already been used or will they come up with something different? I figure Hasbro would be happy to give us new SG decos so as not to lock out other potential uses of any given mold.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Munkky » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:52 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:If we’re already getting Jackpot, meaning that Action Masters are on the table, and we’re getting a repaint and/or retool of Wheeljack, my bet is that we will see Slicer in one of these sets.
Don't forget that SG Wheeljack is also rumored for the SG line, which would already be Slicer colored.

It's possible that the Wheeljack silhouette in the part 2 teaser is just a placeholder so not to give away what the actual figure is. When the Galactic Odyssey sets were being revealed, the unrevealed ones all had the same generic silhouette of Bumblebee, and I think the same thing is happening here.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby DeathReviews » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:20 pm

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I like Puffer's lipless faceplate. But knowing the issues with the Huffer mold, I doubt I'll go out of my way for this set. Those hollow legs at the back, and the wafer-thin 'feet', make him a one-time-only purchase in the form of Huffer.

Nice try, Hasbro. But how about making more of the rare figures you DIDN'T produce enough of (like Siege Greenlight, Sky Lynx, etc.) instead of repainting the ones that are still choking shelves?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:22 pm

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o.supreme wrote:With ER I believe when the Galactic Odyssey sets were announced we knew there would be 5 (and some if not most of the contents). I know some of the contents of the Golden Disk line have been leaked, but do we know exactly how many sets there will be?
Amazon and Pulse say there are 4 packs, and we had 4 listings (Terrorsaur, "Ranger/Puffer", Jackpot, & Tigatron) but this one was the only one to mention multiple figures in the listing, so if they are all multipacks then we only know at most half of each set's contents.


Actually, I think this reveal along with the packaging show us the other 3 may end up being single figures, or figures with extras. Look at the photo of the 4 packages making up the golden disc. This set is by far the largest box by area on the side they are using. I would expect the others to be single figures, but possibly with extras.
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Re: Transformers Kingdom Golden Disk Set 1 Revealed to be Puffer and Road Ranger

Postby Overcracker » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:30 pm

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Bounti76 wrote:Thanks to several Seibertronians for sending in this news, we now have official confirmation and reveals of Kingdom Puffer and Road Ranger!

The description given with these two has some very interesting information. It says the Golden Disk has the power to reveal past, present, and future. In alternate timelines, the quantum surge that turned Beast Wars characters into Transmetals caught up Road Ranger from his timeline, specifically calling him out as a GoBot, and describes Pipes and Huffer being caught up in another wave of quantum energy and arriving on prehistoric Earth fused together as Puffer!

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These two are coming in the first of four Golden Disk sets exclusive to Amazon, with the others yet to be revealed. This set can be preordered at Amazon now, but it's currently sold out on Hasbro Pulse, though it may be restocked at a later point, as Red Alert was.

What do you think of this set? Excited to get it? Going for more GoBots to show up in the Transformers line? Hoping for more highly obscure decos to show up as new toys? Let us know what you think by sounding off in the Energon Pub forums.


Interesting though awkward. If he's supposed to be Gobot Road Ranger, then he should have a red cab. I never had G1 Prime asa kid, so I always used Road Ranger as my Prime.

Anybody got any pre-order links for these?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:32 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:
o.supreme wrote:With ER I believe when the Galactic Odyssey sets were announced we knew there would be 5 (and some if not most of the contents). I know some of the contents of the Golden Disk line have been leaked, but do we know exactly how many sets there will be?
Amazon and Pulse say there are 4 packs, and we had 4 listings (Terrorsaur, "Ranger/Puffer", Jackpot, & Tigatron) but this one was the only one to mention multiple figures in the listing, so if they are all multipacks then we only know at most half of each set's contents.


Actually, I think this reveal along with the packaging show us the other 3 may end up being single figures, or figures with extras. Look at the photo of the 4 packages making up the golden disc. This set is by far the largest box by area on the side they are using. I would expect the others to be single figures, but possibly with extras.


Unfortunately, looking at them altogether now I fear you may be correct. I've ordered many Selects, and the size of the deluxe box has been the same since the first 2 (Riccochet & red Swoop) in 2019. However with the Cenution Drone last year, and Tricranius this year, we see they can add a whole accessories pack, and still not change the size of the box. The box for deluxes could *technically* be smaller. I would not be surprised if we saw that change occur starting with any future Selects after WFC is done.

But the first box (bottom right) is defintely the biggest. The 2 on the left will be deluxes, and the one on top-right will be the Voyager. Oh well...so much for these all being multi-packs :(
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:37 pm

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What if Tigatron is actually our missing Nightprowler? We know from the Amazon AU listing that at some point Nightprowler was meant to be paired with Sideswipe and the price was originally the same as the Mirage and Grimlock until they corrected it meaning it was priced for one Deluxe and one Voyager so it's possible that Nightprowler was meant to be a Voyager Tigatron repaint instead of Deluxe Cheetor. And honestly I'd rather have a new character than an old character in different colors any day. I'm probably wrong, it'll probably be orange, but I really want to be right this time.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:16 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:SG Ratchet’s colors are very different too from that 2-pack last year. Who’s to say that Hasbro’s SG Wheeljack will or won’t be identical to G1 Slicer?
Ratchet was a Selects though, not part of the proper Shattered Glass line. Everyone in the SG line has had accurate color schemes down to Blurr's lightning tats, just on the mold of their G1 self, so I'd be surprised if Wheeljack was the one deviation from that.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Remember, we already have Kingdom Road Rage on the way soon. Will Hasbro skip SG Tracks altogether just because the colors have already been used or will they come up with something different?
I think they're gonna skip SG Tracks because of not only that, but also the fact that SG was basically just a panel-filler goon for Magnus that never did anything notable or memorable. Wheeljack, Blurr, Ratchet, etc. at least got to do stuff within their various appearances that would drive interest in new ones, Tracks seems a bit too unimportant to be considered for this (especially when compared to some of their other remaining options like Grimlock, Rodimus, & Sideswipe).

o.supreme wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Actually, I think this reveal along with the packaging show us the other 3 may end up being single figures, or figures with extras. Look at the photo of the 4 packages making up the golden disc. This set is by far the largest box by area on the side they are using. I would expect the others to be single figures, but possibly with extras.


Unfortunately, looking at them altogether now I fear you may be correct. I've ordered many Selects, and the size of the deluxe box has been the same since the first 2 (Riccochet & red Swoop) in 2019. However with the Cenution Drone last year, and Tricranius this year, we see they can add a whole accessories pack, and still not change the size of the box. The box for deluxes could *technically* be smaller. I would not be surprised if we saw that change occur starting with any future Selects after WFC is done.

But the first box (bottom right) is defintely the biggest. The 2 on the left will be deluxes, and the one on top-right will be the Voyager. Oh well...so much for these all being multi-packs :(
It really comes down to which is more accurate, that picture (which could potentially be a placeholder like the Wheeljack pic) or the fact that all of the language in these set descriptions matches how they described the GO sets, which were all multiple figures.

Emerje wrote:What if Tigatron is actually our missing Nightprowler? We know from the Amazon AU listing that at some point Nightprowler was meant to be paired with Sideswipe and the price was originally the same as the Mirage and Grimlock until they corrected it meaning it was priced for one Deluxe and one Voyager so it's possible that Nightprowler was meant to be a Voyager Tigatron repaint instead of Deluxe Cheetor. And honestly I'd rather have a new character than an old character in different colors any day. I'm probably wrong, it'll probably be orange, but I really want to be right this time.

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As someone who also wants you to be right: why would the listing just call it Tigatron then?
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