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Re: What Might Have Been - Beast Wars Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:35 pm

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Made some more adjustments to the episode order after I changed my mind and decided to switch around "Possession" and "Dark Voyage".

Here's the main section that's been edited (among other smaller edits):

Sabrblade wrote:Then we get "Possession" and "Dark Voyage". Inferno is unusually absent from these episodes, allowing both of them to come earlier. "Dark Voyage" always felt like an early episode, especially with Dinobot still referring to the Pit as "the Inferno". Yet, the episode was both produced and aired after Inferno's debut. But, because Airazor is mentioned by Optimus, this episode could not come any earlier than after "The Spark".

"Possession", similarly, does not feature Inferno at all, yet still came after his debut. Moving it up to come before both parts of "The Trigger" actually patches up a bit of continuity that always felt off to me in that two-parter. In that episode, Blackarachnia harbors a thirst for power and a desire to overthrow Megatron and rule the Predacons. Megatron is also suspicious of her ambitions and cautions Scorponok to watch her. However, in the original broadcast order, Blackarachnia never held such desires in any prior episodes and thus never gave Megatron any reason to distrust her.

In "Possession", Blackarachnia is taught the ways of deception by Starscream. She also uses what she learned to smooth-talk her way back into Megatron's good graces, but not without him still leery of her. Placing this episode before "The Trigger" thus creates a more complete picture of Blackarachia's descent into treachery, as the only time beforehand that she ever expressed any kind of disdain for Megatron was in "The Spark" wherein she complained to Scorponok "Don't you ever get tired of groveling to that saurian?" But, that was brief and she never again expressed such frustration in the rest of the episode. Placing "Possession" here completes that development.

However, I also switched these two episodes around to place "Possession" first for three reasons. First, Airazor's absence from "Dark Voyage" didn't feel right coming right after her debut. Unlike Tigatron's preference to be on his own and Blackarachnia's natural tendency to sneak away, Airazor became a full-time resident of her team's base, and it felt wrong to put the episode wherein she is only-mentioned-and-never-seen right after her debut. While she only has a minor role in "Possession", she is at least still present for some of it.

Second, I mentioned before that Blackarachnia was getting tired of working for Megatron in "The Spark", which was only a momentary feeling in the original broadcast order. Placing the episode wherein she first develops her treacherous nature right after that episode suddenly makes her frustration in that episode all the more meaningful, now serving as foreshadowing to the events of "Possession".

Third, I also said that Megatron become wary of Blackarachnia by the end of "Possession", so his choosing send her out on such an important mission in "The Trigger", so soon after "Possession" had just given him ample reason to distrust her, felt a bit reckless on his part. Placing "Dark Voyage" between "Possession" and "The Trigger" gives some breathing room that allows Megatron to ease up on his suspicions of Blackarachnia. Not completely (as evidenced by his whispers to Scorponok) but just enough to make him willing to send her out on the mission to the flying island.
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Re: What Might Have Been - Beast Wars Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:04 pm

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Building upon both the previous Beast Wars season 1 list and this other Beast Machines list I made four years ago in a different thread, I have used my TFWiki user page to make a new complete list for the entire Beast Wars Expanded Universe.

The first one, that is. Not the later universe made by IDW that changed/ignored/misunderstood so much about the cartoons.
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Re: What Might Have Been - Beast Wars Discussion

Postby Alph » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:40 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The Agenda
All this in mind you can imagine how "thrilled" I was when they completely squandered all of that potential and through plot contrivance, resolved the immediate danger in a single episode.


Uh...that wasn't a plot contrivance. Blackarachnia having the access codes (which gave her the ability to stop Megatron) and her being a maximal protoform (which gave her the motive to do so) were both well established aspects of the basic storyline up until that point. They weren't something that just popped up out of nowhere to resolve the conflict, rather they were both established details that Megatron (and most of the audience, as we believed, just like him, that he had won) had simply overlooked. It's the exact opposite of a contrivance
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Re: What Might Have Been - Beast Wars Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:20 pm

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Alph wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The Agenda
All this in mind you can imagine how "thrilled" I was when they completely squandered all of that potential and through plot contrivance, resolved the immediate danger in a single episode.


Uh...that wasn't a plot contrivance. Blackarachnia having the access codes (which gave her the ability to stop Megatron) and her being a maximal protoform (which gave her the motive to do so) were both well established aspects of the basic storyline up until that point. They weren't something that just popped up out of nowhere to resolve the conflict, rather they were both established details that Megatron (and most of the audience, as we believed, just like him, that he had won) had simply overlooked. It's the exact opposite of a contrivance



The contrivance wasn't Blackarachnia and no one said it was.

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