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Magnus. Always.

Banjo-Tron wrote:D'oh, I forgot about Jetfire. Well he certainly had the physical prowess and leadership skills, but he was an ex-Decepticon. Would he ever be fully trusted? I'd like to think so, but what if he was in very, very deep cover all along?

Well they keep putting faith in that idiot Drift so ...

Burn wrote:

Banjo-Tron wrote:D'oh, I forgot about Jetfire. Well he certainly had the physical prowess and leadership skills, but he was an ex-Decepticon. Would he ever be fully trusted? I'd like to think so, but what if he was in very, very deep cover all along?

Well they keep putting faith in that idiot Drift so ...

I remember when 'Drift' was the name of a pretty nice chocolate bar. Now I am reminded of that risible pantomime 'OMG teh ninja swordz!' turncoat contrived douche and can't even enjoy confectionary in peace

Excuse my rant. Another possible candidate for leadership would be Ratchet. He was extremely well-written in the G1 comics and had his fair share of issues to deal with. Shame he bought the farm in the movie I guess.

Comics Ratchet was awesome, I always enjoyed his "rivalry" of sorts with Megatron. He was after all, just a medic, but he got thrust into a situation against the big bad and frankly, he held his ground.

Mix him with Prime Ratchet, who is crotchety and cranky and doesn't hesitate to speak his mind, and THAT could be a good leader.

Good jobs guys . Here is a side question for you. In the G1 cartoon, Orion Pax didn't exhibit much the future Optimus Prime leadership skills until we was rebuilt after Megatron tried to kill him, Ariel, and others. Is there an Autobot out there would be leadership material they matured naturally or was a direct victim of the horrors of war and grew up traumatically?

I would choose Hound. He always had a good head on his shoulders and seemed to get along with everyone. Although his fighting skills weren't the best, he could no doubt become a skilled warrior.

Silverbolt of the Aerialbots would have made a pretty good successor.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Silverbolt_%28G1%29

I think Trailbreaker would make an excellent Prime. He's good natured, he's good in a fight, he has a goddamn forcefield! If you look in the comics then you'll see that he can take a beating and keep coming, if you watch the cartoon you can see that he's useful as a warrior and a defender, all we'd really need to see from him is the "strategist" part of his "Defensive Strategist" function. He's a really under-used character and that's always bothered me because he's got plenty of potential.

His secretly depressed "I'm a drain on resources" attitude would be replaced with a cheerful confidence and his force field would go from a static wall/dome/sphere, to one he could shape Green Lantern style! His new moniker would be Champion Prime!

Also: This would be his vehicle mode!

MEGATRON!!!

Jazz all the way

SlyTF1 wrote:MEGATRON!!!

Serious or not, that's a great choice.

G1: Ultra Magnus for sure; He deserves it, the Autobot cause deserves it and we should get a chance to see it, but also:

*Defensor (a hidden Prime)
*Prowl (He would know what murderous traits to reign in and when if all the Autobots are watching him and interpreting their role in the Autobot cause through their following of him)
In an emergency/as a temporary Prime or Matrix bearer: Trailbreaker, Ratchet, Hoist, Red Alert, Perceptor, Ironhide, Kup, Aerial/Elita-one.

Unicron Trilogy: Override, hands down.

Movieverse: Bumblebee, provided the Matrix turned him into a bigger bot- I started a thread on it once and figured school bus might be a useable example. Otherwise Ironhide, Mudflap or Jazz (all dead, leaving behind nobody). From the expanded toyline I'd choose Longarm just by going off the AltMode since the rest are dead.

TF: PRIME: Arcee or Smokescreen, with intent to pass the Matrix on to Alpha Trion.

Beast Wars (I know Primal isn't Optimus, but): Tigertron, Rattrap, Rhinox, the Hawk-femmebot (I suddenly forget the name) in that order.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

G1 Smoketreader wrote:Mudflap

If Mudflap is leader of the Autobots, fanbase go kaboom.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

G1 Smoketreader wrote:Mudflap

If Mudflap is leader of the Autobots, fanbase go kaboom.

Respectfully- screw the fanbase. They attack other fans for what Bay changes and call him MISTER Bay. Fanbase already went kaboom.

My evaluation/reasoning as to why i included Mudflap as Prime:
It depends on what gets done with the chapter of his story: Just because the movieverse is an insult to a lot of things, including Transformers themselves, doesn't mean Mudflap is not Prime material: Movieverse Mudflap is a street fighter who can rival Devastator.He and his brother are also open to various alternatives to straight out warfare, eg. 'blending in like a ninja'.

If there was absolutely no other candidate for a Prime around he would take up the mantle because 'dat'z how it goez'-the Primes lead to the death and their troops carry on as the next primes. Mudflap wouldn't baulk at the responsibility for a second, because it would be very ancient tradition by his time.
( Don't assume the twins aren't experienced. They are war babies and the adaptation to that all is already in their veins. How Bay, Dorky and Klutzman convert them into comedy relief is not our problem, it's their loss).

VERY IMPORTANT EDIT: Where I say 'screw' I mean it in the Cybertronian context, as in 'approach with intent to apply torque where needed'. I felt 'scrap the fanbase' is something I would never wish on us, so I changed it.

In regards to doing something with Mudflaps' chapter- they idea of a non-Prime wannabe bearing the matrix to a true-Prime candidate should be a normal concept to us (Hot Rod/imus).

G1 Magnus couldn't even open the Matrix.

Rodimus Prime wrote:G1 Magnus couldn't even open the Matrix.

He just misjudged when their 'darkest hour' was. Poor guy. he should have realised that being shot at by a few sweeps wasn't it!

Im gonna pick someone that wouldnt be expected and say Sideswipe.

Basing it off a few series. DW comics when they had transformers for how he acted and fought on the battlefield, Cold and Ruthless, a Techspeck i remember reading where it said he was a dirty fighter will to do whatever it took to win. and G1 for his down time being kinda lighthearted to keep moral up.

As for not being a stratagist well thats why he has Prowl around.

Sky Lynx.

Rodimus.

My vote would've gone with Magnus, but that'd mean we'd probably end up with an Optimus toy with a new paint job, which I think kinda defeats the purpose of having a new leader.

Have a few candidates.

Rodimus has always been my favourite Prime. Thought Furman done a good job with him in the Marvel comics. I'd love some fiction that picks up from the Marvel UK future stories. Having grown up with Marvel UK and the Movie, Rodimus will always be Optimus' successor to me.

I've always liked Prowl. I like Roche's devious version but I liked the kinder version in the Budianksy and Dreamwave comics. I just wish writers would stop making him a whiner. I liked his tech specs portrayal of being patient and a listener, not a talker. At least with Energon Checkpoint, we have an idea of what he'd look like as a Prime. If you go by Beast Wars, he becomes joint Maximal leader.

Marvel Blaster. The Autobots wanted him to lead.

Countdown

Silverbolt. Always liked him and like Prowl, he also becomes joint Maximal leader.

I'd have to go with Iron Hide. According to G1, he's one of oldest, most seasoned veteran of the group.