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The new AvP game doesn't suck. It wasn't perfect but it didn't suck. Sega's refusal to allow Rebellion to patch the game sucks, though.

DJLazer wrote:I think it's too sega makes games to childish. Except for bayonetta.

Too bad Sega didn't make Bayonetta. They only published it. Platinum Games made Bayonetta.

I loved Bayonetta The best DMC since DMC1!

Phategod1 wrote:I loved Bayonetta The best DMC since DMC1!

Eh? DMC3 blew DMC1 out of the water. Substantially improved gameplay, and a better emphasis on story and characters. And unlike Bayonetta, DMC doesn't sell copies based on hyping the sexuality of it's main character.

Shadowman wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:I loved Bayonetta The best DMC since DMC1!

Eh? DMC3 blew DMC1 out of the water. Substantially improved gameplay, and a better emphasis on story and characters. And unlike Bayonetta, DMC doesn't sell copies based on hyping the sexuality of it's main character.

Maybe the game was sold by that, but Bayonetta is one of the best action games in recent years. The only people still hung up on the fact that Bayonetta is unabashed in her sexuality are the people who never really played the game.

Counterpunch wrote:Bayonetta is one of the best action games in recent years.

I've spent much of the last week playing the God of War series, so I really, really can't agree with that.

EDIT: Keep in mind, "Action Game" is a very broad term. I know you mean Hack-And-Slash, games like God of War and DMC, but Action Games can refer to a loooot of different subgenres.

the only games I really care about from sega are
jet set radio, vector man, and sonic.
and we're talkin before 2004.
I knew sonic was dead when amy got her own game -_-

Shadowman wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Bayonetta is one of the best action games in recent years.

I've spent much of the last week playing the God of War series, so I really, really can't agree with that.

EDIT: Keep in mind, "Action Game" is a very broad term. I know you mean Hack-And-Slash, games like God of War and DMC, but Action Games can refer to a loooot of different subgenres.

Im sorry other then the boss fights I found the GOW series especially pt 3 a mindless button masher and again PT3 was overall forgettable, but that's just my opinion.

Phategod1 wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Bayonetta is one of the best action games in recent years.

I've spent much of the last week playing the God of War series, so I really, really can't agree with that.

EDIT: Keep in mind, "Action Game" is a very broad term. I know you mean Hack-And-Slash, games like God of War and DMC, but Action Games can refer to a loooot of different subgenres.

Im sorry other then the boss fights I found the GOW series especially pt 3 a mindless button masher and again PT3 was overall forgettable, but that's just my opinion.

I seem to recall Bayonetta having a mode that turns into entire game into one extended "Press X to not Die" segment...

Shadowman wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Bayonetta is one of the best action games in recent years.

I've spent much of the last week playing the God of War series, so I really, really can't agree with that.

EDIT: Keep in mind, "Action Game" is a very broad term. I know you mean Hack-And-Slash, games like God of War and DMC, but Action Games can refer to a loooot of different subgenres.

Im sorry other then the boss fights I found the GOW series especially pt 3 a mindless button masher and again PT3 was overall forgettable, but that's just my opinion.

I seem to recall Bayonetta having a mode that turns into entire game into one extended "Press X to not Die" segment...

There's a difference between adding a mode for newbs and the overall style game originally being nothing more then mindless button mashing.

Phategod1 wrote:There's a difference between adding a mode for newbs and the overall style game originally being nothing more then mindless button mashing.

You do know there's things in God of War that aren't fighting, right? Lots of puzzle solving. And I never cared that it was so mindless because it just looks so damn cool. Why hit a hundred buttons with perfect timing, when I can just hit triangle three times and see a torrent of godly flame spring from my arms and slaughter most if not all of the literally Godforsaken mooks in front of me?

EDIT: I should have mentioned, it stops being that simple about 20 minutes in.

Shadowman wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:There's a difference between adding a mode for newbs and the overall style game originally being nothing more then mindless button mashing.

You do know there's things in God of War that aren't fighting, right? Lots of puzzle solving. And I never cared that it was so mindless because it just looks so damn cool. Why hit a hundred buttons with perfect timing, when I can just hit triangle three times and see a torrent of godly flame spring from my arms and slaughter most if not all of the literally Godforsaken mooks in front of me?

EDIT: I should have mentioned, it stops being that simple about 20 minutes in.

Again that's why I finished my 1st Post With "In my honest opinion" I found the puzzle simple and inane.

Phategod1 wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:There's a difference between adding a mode for newbs and the overall style game originally being nothing more then mindless button mashing.

You do know there's things in God of War that aren't fighting, right? Lots of puzzle solving. And I never cared that it was so mindless because it just looks so damn cool. Why hit a hundred buttons with perfect timing, when I can just hit triangle three times and see a torrent of godly flame spring from my arms and slaughter most if not all of the literally Godforsaken mooks in front of me?

EDIT: I should have mentioned, it stops being that simple about 20 minutes in.

Again that's why I finished my 1st Post With "In my honest opinion" I found the puzzle simple and inane.

Which puzzle? Because there's a lot of them. And they aren't all that simple.

Shadowman wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Phategod1 wrote:There's a difference between adding a mode for newbs and the overall style game originally being nothing more then mindless button mashing.

You do know there's things in God of War that aren't fighting, right? Lots of puzzle solving. And I never cared that it was so mindless because it just looks so damn cool. Why hit a hundred buttons with perfect timing, when I can just hit triangle three times and see a torrent of godly flame spring from my arms and slaughter most if not all of the literally Godforsaken mooks in front of me?

EDIT: I should have mentioned, it stops being that simple about 20 minutes in.

Again that's why I finished my 1st Post With "In my honest opinion" I found the puzzle simple and inane.

Which puzzle? Because there's a lot of them. And they aren't all that simple.

Take your pick I beat all three game in a matter of 3 days each across both platforms, no disrespect but I found Zero challenge in any of the puzzels. The only thing I found challenging in GOW was the platforming which in part one was borderline terrible.

Well, whatever. It doesn't mean they're bad games. It just means you, personally, don't like them. And if there's one thing I should have learned by now, it's that I can't actually change anyone's opinions.

You must have a lot fo free time if you beat them all in 3 days.
I like GOW, the only games I actually still play and replay for that matter. Story wise they're also above most other games, well except for 3 which does feel more like, "Yea we decided to change the ending to part 2 because we realised we could sell another game that way.

Also Bayonetta is a pretty good game, especially after you finally get to play it after it's 20 minute opening cut scene/quick time event.
to me it's just as good as GOW, different but just as good in how different it is.

Dead Metal wrote:Also Bayonetta is a pretty good game, especially after you finally get to play it after it's 20 minute opening cut scene/quick time event.
to me it's just as good as GOW, different but just as good in how different it is.

You're damn right.

I just think it's because SEGA oversaturates their annual lineup with an obligatory Sonic game.

On the other hand, they left behind in Japan the first 4 games of Sakura Taisen, as the first game alone was seen as a killer app for the Saturn in Japan.

But yeah, I too notice how they make so many games, yet a couple of the ones they leave behind are the truly best ones for US release. I can name Shining Force games, too.

When the Dreamcast was still around I think the stakes were much higher and they were definitely one of the innovators in the industry. Now it seems like they have slipped a bit in recent memory. But everyone is sucking up during these economic times, when in fact that is such a HUGE OPPORTUNITY! Hopefully, Sega brings back the magic in time for the X'mas season.

Sega used to have great games until the post Dreamcast days, then they just went downhill. When it comes to a couple of their current gen games, I did actually enjoy Bayonetta and very surprisingly Captain America. They really did blow it with both Iron Man and Hulk games, so I really wasn't expecting anything from the Cap'n. Don't even get me started on Sonic....Unleashed left such a sour taste in my mouth.

everyone says sonic is dead, i dont think hes dead, its just a fatal disease thats slowly eating away at the qualaty of his games, but im pretty sure they found a cure and hes on his way to recovery

Nathimus Prime wrote:everyone says sonic is dead, i dont think hes dead, its just a fatal disease thats slowly eating away at the qualaty of his games, but im pretty sure they found a cure and hes on his way to recovery

The day Sonic recovers is the day they cure death.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The general consensus is that if there's one series that needs improving, it's the Sonic series, specifically the 3D ones after the Advenutres. Don't get me wrong, I like them, but the controls and camera could use some work. With Colors they're going in the right direction.

I think you are totally right. The Sonic games just need to refine their game mechanics and give the camera(s) a major overhaul in their games. The Sonic franchise is still a good one with a lot of potential, so I would like to see a something better for it.

Prime Riblet wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The general consensus is that if there's one series that needs improving, it's the Sonic series, specifically the 3D ones after the Advenutres. Don't get me wrong, I like them, but the controls and camera could use some work. With Colors they're going in the right direction.

I think you are totally right. The Sonic games just need to refine their game mechanics and give the camera(s) a major overhaul in their games. The Sonic franchise is still a good one with a lot of potential, so I would like to see a something better for it.

OK, just how old is that quote?

Speaking of Sonic, what's the general opinion on Sonic Generations?