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Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Fast_Magma » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:05 pm

I bet I'm not the only one who is shock and angry that season 3 of TF Prime will have only 13 episodes and will be the last season of the show. :sad: What happen? What's going on? How come the show suddenly decided to end after 3 seasons?

Was it ratings suddenly take a dip? Money issues? Contract disputes?
Or will there be a new Transformers show to follow after Prime?

TF Prime should have more than 65 episodes. I was really enjoying Prime.

Shouldn't Prime get more episodes? Is there any petitions to join to bring more episodes to Prime?
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Henry921 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:54 pm

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Hasbro wants to move on to a new storyline in the Aligned continuity. They wanted the series to be 65 episodes so it could be rebroadcast in syndication; no more, no less. Prime has decent ratings on the Hub, but Hasbro wants to move on.

As a bone throw to the fans, they allowed the showrunners to do one more TV movie, roughly 3 episode length, to wrap up the series later on.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:23 pm

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65 episodes was the show's intended goal since before it even began.

And "only" 65? That's pretty impressive considering it's the second-longest Transformers cartoon. G1 may have had 98 episodes, but a good majority of them were one in which nothing really happened beyond "thwart random evil plot of the day" stuff.

The three years worth of story content the Prime creators had planned out for the show all got covered in just season 2. The Beast Hunters theme for season 3 came as a very late decision in the development.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby KOfan4ever » Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:48 pm

Henry921 wrote:Hasbro wants to move on to a new storyline in the Aligned continuity. They wanted the series to be 65 episodes so it could be rebroadcast in syndication; no more, no less. Prime has decent ratings on the Hub, but Hasbro wants to move on.


Too bad. :-( Transformers Prime is probably the best Transformers series I've watched 'till now or at least any show for that matter (in my opinion). It has action, adventure, well designed characters, the plot is also very well built, etc... Ending the show at 65 episodes looks little to me, not to mention that there are still questions about some moments in the show that remain unsolved.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Nico » Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:10 pm

Isn't it obvious; they're making space for a fourth Bayformer movie. Meaning we'll have another excellent and well-written cartoon killed off to make place for the toyline of a racist and idiotic movie. >:oP
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Rumblebee357 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:28 pm

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I agree I wish it would be longer than 65 episodes, there are still alot more stories to tell with the direction they're going but we have a movie coming and its said that there will be another cartoon coming after this.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Noideaforaname » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:29 pm

65 episodes isn't so bad. Lasted longer than the recent Thundercats, Green Lantern, Young Justice, and Tron cartoons.

It's entirely possible that the next TF cartoon is a sequel to Prime.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:08 pm

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Nico wrote:Isn't it obvious; they're making space for a fourth Bayformer movie. Meaning we'll have another excellent and well-written cartoon killed off to make place for the toyline of a racist and idiotic movie. >:oP
Nonsense. Rescue Bots isn't getting "killed off" by any movie. It's getting its second season this winter. :P

Though, Prime was meant to end at 65 since its conception.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby SentinelA » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:28 pm

I just hope we don't have a repeat of TF:Animated in which Season 3 was never put out on DVD :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:39 pm

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SentinelA wrote:I just hope we don't have a repeat of TF:Animated in which Season 3 was never put out on DVD :BANG_HEAD:
That's the fault of CN and/or Paramount. Hasbro had no control over that. Prime, however, is wholly their own show, so the only way season 3 wouldn't get released this time would be if Hasbro wanted to mess with us and make their customers mad on purpose (which is very bad business).
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby LiKwid » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:10 pm

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Nico wrote:Isn't it obvious; they're making space for a fourth Bayformer movie. Meaning we'll have another excellent and well-written cartoon killed off to make place for the toyline of a racist and idiotic movie. >:oP


You cannot be serious with this line....
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:23 pm

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LiKwid wrote:
Nico wrote:Isn't it obvious; they're making space for a fourth Bayformer movie. Meaning we'll have another excellent and well-written cartoon killed off to make place for the toyline of a racist and idiotic movie. >:oP


You cannot be serious with this line....
ROTF's twins were the target of many racial stereotyping accusations.

But, whether they really were racist or not, they were still annoying nonetheless.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Rumblebee357 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:10 pm

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am I the only one that thought the twins were hilarious from ROTF? I remeber being in the theater watching it and everybody was crack'n up with the twins. I didnt find them racist or idiotic, stereotypical yes but hey its a movie.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby VirusCarnage » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:45 pm

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Rumblebee357 wrote:am I the only one that thought the twins were hilarious from ROTF? I remeber being in the theater watching it and everybody was crack'n up with the twins. I didnt find them racist or idiotic, stereotypical yes but hey its a movie.


I thought it was funny too because I make racist jokes to my friends but they are racist/stereotypical
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Rumblebee357 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:26 pm

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really dude?? Do you know how that sounds?? Oh your being sarcastic... Ha
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby LiKwid » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:08 pm

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LiKwid wrote:
Nico wrote:Isn't it obvious; they're making space for a fourth Bayformer movie. Meaning we'll have another excellent and well-written cartoon killed off to make place for the toyline of a racist and idiotic movie. >:oP


You cannot be serious with this line....
ROTF's twins were the target of many racial stereotyping accusations.

But, whether they really were racist or not, they were still annoying nonetheless.


Annoying..god yes.. I enjoyed their scenes the first time but after that I always fast forwarded through their parts. I never really understood the "racist" parts..Because ya know, aliens from another world know about that kind of stuff..
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:12 pm

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LiKwid wrote:Annoying..god yes.. I enjoyed their scenes the first time but after that I always fast forwarded through their parts. I never really understood the "racist" parts..Because ya know, aliens from another world know about that kind of stuff..
Jazz did. Who's to say Skids and Mudflap didn't also do some websurfing?
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby TurboMMaster » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:52 pm

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The worst part is I already have this filling like Beast Hunters is gona be too short. When they finaly breakk the status quo, and everythng seems to change forever... they decide to cut this off!
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:29 pm

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TurboMMaster wrote:The worst part is I already have this filling like Beast Hunters is gona be too short. When they finaly breakk the status quo, and everythng seems to change forever... they decide to cut this off!
Cut what off? 65 was their GOAL, what they WANTED to do from the start.

Again, their three-to-four years worth of story content got all used up in just season 2. The Beast Hunters theme was a late decision.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby TurboMMaster » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:56 am

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Then why they start to change everything so late? BH seems have a potencital to become so interesting arc, yet 13 seems to be not enough to explore all motives. For example: I would love to see a Flashback centered about Bulkhead, Wheeljack and Breakdown, something what reveals what was Bulk and Break's "Story", yet it seems there is no time.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:34 am

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TurboMMaster wrote:Then why they start to change everything so late?
Cuz they ran dry their planned story material this late and needed a new direction to go in to finish the series off.

Armada did something similar by bringing in Unicron for its final arc. Energon (yes, Energon) also had a situation in which it also ran out of plot and took a different direction for its final arc (though, it did so in the worst way possible).

TurboMMaster wrote:BH seems have a potencital to become so interesting arc, yet 13 seems to be not enough to explore all motives.
Beast Wars seasons 2-3, Beast Machines, and Animated all only had thirteen episodes per season, and each of those had greatly developed seasons. ;)

TurboMMaster wrote:For example: I would love to see a Flashback centered about Bulkhead, Wheeljack and Breakdown, something what reveals what was Bulk and Break's "Story", yet it seems there is no time.
I think any and all potential for that to have happened was killed off when Airachnid killed Breakdown back in episode 33. Doing so long after that event would feel really delayed.

I mean, look at Cliffjumper. It took them 42 episodes after his death to give us anything worthwhile about him, and by then it felt very late-coming.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby TurboMMaster » Mon Apr 08, 2013 5:46 am

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Sabrblade wrote:I mean, look at Cliffjumper. It took them 42 episodes after his death to give us anything worthwhile about him, and by then it felt very late-coming.
Yes, bu you must remember, that Cliffjumper was killed really fast, you don't have time to attach to him. Breakdown, after all have much more time, and he have his fans. Also Cliff was kinda bad lubk guy, cause he is partner of Arcee, and that means that you are involved into all her "emoformers" action. We don't have that kind of problems with Bulkhead.
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Re: Why Transformers Prime last only 65 episodes?

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:02 am

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Sabrblade wrote:I mean, look at Cliffjumper. It took them 42 episodes after his death to give us anything worthwhile about him, and by then it felt very late-coming.
Yes, bu you must remember, that Cliffjumper was killed really fast, you don't have time to attach to him. Breakdown, after all have much more time, and he have his fans. Also Cliff was kinda bad lubk guy, cause he is partner of Arcee, and that means that you are involved into all her "emoformers" action. We don't have that kind of problems with Bulkhead.
Even still, with Breakdown gone and no logner a concern for Bulkhead, the rivalry history between the two seems to have gone down the drain, having died off along with Breakdown.
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