o.supreme wrote:While there are opportunities for older lines like MOTU, GI Joe, Super Powers, Marvel etc. to take vintage toys and "modernize" them; to do the same to any older Transformer (give it full modern articulation), would not be *impossible*, but would be quite costly, and impractical I would think. Thus the reason the Generations line exists. To give us modernized takes on characters from past lines, and even some who never existed in toy form.
Bumblevivisector wrote:One thing o.supreme did get right will, is that Transformers are complicated enough that there's no way to say exactly how such "retro-forming" would work. In fact, beyond what Super7 is already doing with ReAction figures and "Ultimates", in which the idea's apparently to make them so retro that they predate the concept of actually transforming, which concept would you even attempt to latch onto?
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If "retro Transformers" isn't already happening, it probably isn't possible.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Personally, I would not want this to happen, but I also am aware that I am not the target audience for this hypothesis either.
sol magnus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Personally, I would not want this to happen, but I also am aware that I am not the target audience for this hypothesis either.
I'm sort of scratching my head at the whole thread. Last year we had G1 Retro style Headmasters from recent toys. They've been doing "retro packaging" actual G1 reissues for years with classic packaging. I would say Transformers is among the first to even start doing this...but maybe I'm missing the point.
william-james88 wrote:This isn't about modernizing toys, it's the opposite. The Super powers, Star Wars and marvel retro lines only have 4-5 points of articulation. So they are taking new designs and characters and retrofitting them into simpler toys. So basically, it would be taking G1 toys and making redecos into characters we never got, not adding complexity or articulation.
Spider5800 wrote:Which means no diecast, poor articulation, and limited transformations.
sol magnus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Personally, I would not want this to happen, but I also am aware that I am not the target audience for this hypothesis either.
I'm sort of scratching my head at the whole thread. Last year we had G1 Retro style Headmasters from recent toys. They've been doing "retro packaging" actual G1 reissues for years with classic packaging. I would say Transformers is among the first to even start doing this...but maybe I'm missing the point.
o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:This isn't about modernizing toys, it's the opposite. The Super powers, Star Wars and marvel retro lines only have 4-5 points of articulation. So they are taking new designs and characters and retrofitting them into simpler toys. So basically, it would be taking G1 toys and making redecos into characters we never got, not adding complexity or articulation.
ok, my apologies. I was a little confused because your example shows MOTU classics which takes vintage figures and increases the articulation. Also DC Superpowers matches the 7 POA of the originals, but the toys are all new, not using the same mold as vintage (but they lack the action features of the originals). So even in this day and age of "bringing back" older toys, different toy manufacturers are taking a different approach.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I don't think it works even for what it's already being used for. :/ Also, in the case of G.I. Joe it's a flat-out ripoff because it relegates them to Kenner Star Wars articulation instead of what real vintage Joes had, so I want to see the trend halted in its tracks and Super 7 forced to give people refunds en masse for their scam products. I normally don't care for that language wrt toys, but in the case of the retraux Joes I feel it actually fits.
Regarding Transformers... which G1 toy style? Diaclone and MicroChange style? Movie-onward style? I don't see the former happening because it would result in expensive bricks with missile launchers that may or may not work well, and the latter wouldn't really offer anything much. And either approach probably wouldn't get on well with a lot of post-G1 characters.
Toys that answer the question "What if Rook, Offroad and Alpha Bravo had been made in 1985?" is also something that would be awesome to see happenD-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think the idea is like "what if we took CW Rook, made a G1-mold Rook with appropriate size and articulation, so that way you could add a Rook to your G1 Defensor to match your CW Defensor"
Kinda like that 3P "G1" combiner that was animals and all blocks with G1 articulation
optimeow wrote:A lot of retro remakes of other lines like MOTU, GIJoe and even Star Wars are about the packaging.
Now with all the “no plastic” and windowless packaging, I seriously don’t think we will ever see it for Transformers.
Gone are the days where expensive robots with diecast parts came in beautiful windowed boxes, snuggle with syrofoam
Not to mention, instruction sheets and catalogue inserts that were printed on high quality paper instead of the printed toilet paper used now
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