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Postby william-james88 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:10 am

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Introducing an industry first Auto-Converting, Interactive, Programmable, Voice Activated, Mobile Controlled - Optimus Prime Robot. In collaboration with Hasbro - Robosen brings your favorite TRANSFORMERS hero, Optimus Prime, to life with a fully immersive experience through voice activated actions, mobile app controls, and endless hours of creative and fun ways to program Optimus Prime to walk, punch, blast, drive, and convert at the swipe of your finger, or command of your voice! The world has never seen an easier way to convert, and roll out!

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Battle Axe and Blaster, as well as: Charging Cable, Instruction Guide & Travel Case
Mobile App - available through Apple App Store & Android App Store - Search: ROBOSEN Optimus Prime
Built in rechargeable Lithium-Ion Battery (2000mAh)
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At an incredible 19" tall when in robot mode, the TRANSFORMERS Autobot leader is awe inspiring in size and capability.
Optimus Prime is equipped with 80 sound effects, voiced by the original voice of the Autobot leader, with genuine “converting” sounds, as you watch and interact with Optimus Prime.
Authentic G1 design with detailed emblems, chrome accents and lighting throughout. Built in speakers and 2 microphones bring Optimus Prime to life!
Witness each punch, blast, breathe and conversion, all done with seamless precision, right before your eyes. Enjoy the most amazing TRANSFORMERS experience the industry has ever interacted with.
Optimus Prime is built premium throughout, with the world's most advanced collection of premium materials assembled together with over 5000 components, 60 microchips and 27 servo motors making this a one-of-a-kind, Collector’s experience!
Turn on and ROLL OUT! Optimus Prime speeds away in truck mode via voice or app. You can seamlessly control Optimus Prime in robot or truck mode via voice or mobile app commands.

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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby william-james88 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:13 am

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I'll be honest, I could not care less for this. My favourite part of Transformers toys is the puzzle aspect and for $700 I have that removed. But hey, for anyone who wants it, I am happy it's there.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby AcademyofDrX » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:42 am

When I opened up Unicron this week, I said to myself, at least this is the most expensive Transformer I will ever own. That thought hasn't aged well.
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Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:03 pm

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william-james88 wrote:I'll be honest, I could not care less for this. My favourite part of Transformers toys is the puzzle aspect and for $700 I have that removed. But hey, for anyone who wants it, I am happy it's there.
Ditto. It doesn't even look that good. It's great that the technology is leaping forward like this, but I look at this the same way I look at MP-01 after almost 20 years: it was awesome at the time, but it will be improved soon enough.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby bluecatcinema » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:04 pm

Wow, that is expensive. But a programmable, voice-activated, auto-transforming Optimus is an amazing thing.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:50 pm

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Food for thought, Hasbro is releasing a $700 before shipping Optimus Prime at "Mass" retail, while the $600 before shipping Unicron had to be crowdfunded with almost three extensions.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby o.supreme » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:11 pm

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My first real car cost close to that price :lol: . Of course it was 15 years old when I got it but still ....
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby alekese » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:19 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Food for thought, Hasbro is releasing a $700 before shipping Optimus Prime at "Mass" retail, while the $600 before shipping Unicron had to be crowdfunded with almost three extensions.

Not quite, this is an officially licensed product made by Robosen, with hasbro helping distribute, as opposed to unicron which was hastak to the bone. If it flops, it's Robosen taking the fall.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby Tyrannacon » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:26 pm

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If only it were a Megatron, I could conceivably have a lot of evil fun with it. Though that price is ouch, not bueno for me.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby primalxconvoy » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:50 pm

I might be going blind in my old age, as I couldn't see the video link for the advert, so here it is, if it hasn't been linked to yet:

- https://youtu.be/GSc0JTanOnQ


Didn't Robosen also make their own transforming robot toys before, including a an unofficial, "KO/3P" Optimus Prime figure, unless this was just a custom version of their regular, grey bot?

- https://youtu.be/iC5uXxwuR3A

I believe this bot below is a prototype of the new, official version?

- https://youtu.be/0mCp7PHpw0Q

Also, here's how their previous bot is controlled by the app:

- https://youtu.be/tgSAX_ouYDw

I'm a bit concerned about apps, as they aren't always supported for the future, meaning that, unless a hardware controller of some sort is also included (or can be bought separately to use with it), then the functionality of this rather expensive toy will become limited.
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Video Showing Off Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime Transforming Skills

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:02 pm

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Greetings Seibertronians! As you may have heard already, Robosen (officially licensed by Hasbro, who are helping to distribute the figure) have revealed their Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime to the world at todays Hasbro Pulse Fan Fest. Thanks to site owner, Seibertron, we now have a video showing off the toys transformation:



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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby Immortal Starscream » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:50 pm

I have honestly never wanted a transformer toy as badly as I want this. sadly, I am trying to move, and with the housing market broken as it is, I just cant afford the $700 to have this very OP optimus.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:00 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:I might be going blind in my old age, as I couldn't see the video link for the advert, so here it is, if it hasn't been linked to yet:

- https://youtu.be/GSc0JTanOnQ


Didn't Robosen also make their own transforming robot toys before, including a an unofficial, "KO/3P" Optimus Prime figure, unless this was just a custom version of their regular, grey bot?

- https://youtu.be/iC5uXxwuR3A

I believe this bot below is a prototype of the new, official version?

- https://youtu.be/0mCp7PHpw0Q

Also, here's how their previous bot is controlled by the app:

- https://youtu.be/tgSAX_ouYDw

I'm a bit concerned about apps, as they aren't always supported for the future, meaning that, unless a hardware controller of some sort is also included (or can be bought separately to use with it), then the functionality of this rather expensive toy will become limited.


Excellent point, how many OS updates will this be supported for; 2,3? Is that Deadpool head app still around?
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby cloudballoon » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:41 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:I'm a bit concerned about apps, as they aren't always supported for the future, meaning that, unless a hardware controller of some sort is also included (or can be bought separately to use with it), then the functionality of this rather expensive toy will become limited.


These type of IoT app most likely controls the bot by Bluetooth. The solution is probably install the app in an old phone that you don't use anymore. With so many people upgrading their phone every 2~3 years, they're easy to find among friends even if you don't have one laying under the couch/drawers.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby primalxconvoy » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:19 pm

cloudballoon wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I'm a bit concerned about apps, as they aren't always supported for the future, meaning that, unless a hardware controller of some sort is also included (or can be bought separately to use with it), then the functionality of this rather expensive toy will become limited.


These type of IoT app most likely controls the bot by Bluetooth. The solution is probably install the app in an old phone that you don't use anymore. With so many people upgrading their phone every 2~3 years, they're easy to find among friends even if you don't have one laying under the couch/drawers.


That's one way, but not everyone keeps their phones, or has a working phone. Also, the app itself might be pulled from Google Play or Apple's shop. Updates could also be made to the app that breaks it and/or makes it a subscription service, etc (which has happened with other "smart" devices). Finally, part of the system this toy relies upon might be cloud-based, meaning that if the servers are turned-off, full or part functionality is lost (again,, which has happened to other smart/connected devices).

I don't want to take such a gamble on such an expensive product.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby YRQRM0 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:34 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I'm a bit concerned about apps, as they aren't always supported for the future, meaning that, unless a hardware controller of some sort is also included (or can be bought separately to use with it), then the functionality of this rather expensive toy will become limited.


These type of IoT app most likely controls the bot by Bluetooth. The solution is probably install the app in an old phone that you don't use anymore. With so many people upgrading their phone every 2~3 years, they're easy to find among friends even if you don't have one laying under the couch/drawers.


That's one way, but not everyone keeps their phones, or has a working phone. Also, the app itself might be pulled from Google Play or Apple's shop. Updates could also be made to the app that breaks it and/or makes it a subscription service, etc (which has happened with other "smart" devices). Finally, part of the system this toy relies upon might be cloud-based, meaning that if the servers are turned-off, full or part functionality is lost (again,, which has happened to other smart/connected devices).

I don't want to take such a gamble on such an expensive product.



I agree that an old phone is very easy to get ahold of, but I share the sentiment about a hardware controller being better. It looked like from the other demo video thought that a lot could be done without the app? If you can voice command/transform him without the app, assuming he's not actively getting firmware updates that break him, he could still be worth it for me. Maybe.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby AgeEighty » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:46 pm

In some shots his head is attached to a flap a la Powermaster Prime and in some it's not; I wonder what that situation actually is.

I'm not too worried about the app concerns. Seems unlikely a physical controller could even begin to offer all the features he's got, and I can always get hold of an old phone and sideload an old version of the app.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby Emerje » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:08 pm

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Man, I don't need this and it would probably just stand on a shelf doing nothing, but I also give in to temptation pretty easily when it comes to Transformers. I watched the CNET video and I'm starting to wish my credit card didn't bump up my limit...



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These have come a long ways since the spindly, brick-footed, thin paneled bots that looked like they'd shake apart just walking. This Prime looks as good as any Optimus Prime figure on the market, looks great in both modes, has lights and sounds with Peter Cullen's voice, and can both walk and drive around. At 19" tall, to me, this is a $700 item. The Robosen T9 came out at $500 (they're about $400 now), and has a lot of the same features as Optimus, but is quite a bit smaller and doesn't come with accessories, and doesn't talk (and certainly isn't Optimus Prime). I'm undecided.

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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby primalxconvoy » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:31 pm

Another problem with the app is that it isn't available for everyone's (Android) device, not is it available in every geographical region. For example, in Japan, many of the TF apps and games available to Americans are not available here, it of they are, they're usually much later. In some cases with apps, such as the AWFUL Japanese version of Disney+, the app has limited content and Japanese language only GUIs.

Yes, I understand that this is primarily available in the US, but as fans, we live in an age of importing things from online. With digital products, there are then extra (unneeded) obstacles, seemingly added artificially IMO, which hinders value.

In the picture below, you can see that the app is available at Google Play (as a beta), via the website, but it's not available at the Google Play app for my phone in Japan.

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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby Emerje » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:20 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:Yes, I understand that this is primarily available in the US, but as fans, we live in an age of importing things from online. With digital products, there are then extra (unneeded) obstacles, seemingly added artificially IMO, which hinders value.

You'll have to take that up with Takara Tomy. Hasbro has nothing to do with the Japanese market so there's little in it for them to fund a Japanese version of the app while they do sell toys in the rest of the world. If TT decides to offer this as well (and they would be crazy not to!) then you'll get your Japanese app. It does have preloaded voice commands so it isn't completely useless without the app.

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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby primalxconvoy » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:39 pm

My point isn't with Hasbro or Takara per sec, but rather the limitations in place for what is a rather expensive product. We need to be careful before buying products like these, due to the problems relating to geological, software availability, hardware ,language, etc.

These problems aren't such an issue with an "analogue" or regular TF toy, but with digital products, there are more barriers to entry. As for Japan, of it was available, I fear it would have Japanese language only GUI and voice samples, thus limiting the appeal of both the American and Japanese versions for me.

Also, if the app isn't compatible with my Android device/OS (as Android is rather fragmented), that would also limit this product's relevance. I'm not going to pay 500 dollars for a toy that I can only talk to. I want to hold a physical controller and speak to it through that, whilst also using physical joysticks to control it like a real RC car/robot.

I can only hope that Hasbro and Takara work to make truly international products, such as their existing analogue range.
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Postby william-james88 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:43 pm

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Just curious, am I the only one who's friends have been sending the video of this same toy for years now?



This definitely explains my lack of excitement over this release, it felt so passé.
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Postby primalxconvoy » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:56 pm

I suspect it was their prototype.
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Re: You Can Own an Auto-Converting Programmable Optimus Prime for $699

Postby Dead Metal » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:08 am

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william-james88 wrote:Just curious, am I the only one who's friends have been sending the video of this same toy for years now?



This definitely explains my lack of excitement over this release, it felt so passé.

No you're not. There have been versions of this shown off for years now. The difference is, that it looks like Hasbro now actually gave them an official licence to actually sell it. Before it was just something to show off their tech and was never intended to be an actual product.

This is cool, but I'm not going to go check out what it costs because I'm sure it's not in my budget.
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