A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors
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We are here to explain what is happening. Fans have been very confused at the sight of 2 completely different Rise of the Beasts deluxe class Airazor toys which look as complex (for a standard deluxe). So here is a breakdown with info coming from insiders and people with access to distributor info.
This whole confusion is a result of the movie being delayed. The big difference isn't the complexity, it's the sculpt and detail. The initial Airazor we saw is part of the Rise of the Beasts mainline that was supposed to be out months ago. That line mirrors the Earthspark and Cyberverse lines where the entire line is aimed at kids but there are deluxes which may interest fans as well due to their more standard complexity. Since these were worked on early, all toys in that line are based on early movie designs so that they could be sold in stores in summer of 2022 for kids and parents to buy, along with the 2022 holiday season. Also, it would be a unified class so all bots would be relatively the same size, and there would just be deluxes, no voyagers or leaders. That is the line the initial Airazor is from. Below is an image along with the listing for that Airazor and the other characters in the deluxe class of that ROTB movie line (Core Boy means the toys are aimed at 8 year old boys).
Tra Mv7 Core Boy Deluxe Class Ast with the EAN: 5010993983308
Deluxe Bumblebee (Codename: George)
Deluxe Mirage (Codename: Pluto)
Deluxe Wheeljack (Codename: Barcelona)
Deluxe Airazor (Codename: Titan)
Deluxe Nightbird (Codename: Outlaw)
![Transformers News: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors]( "Transformers News: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors")
The Studio Series one first shown just a few hours ago is from the 2023 Studio Series line that was always going to come out in 2023, so one year after the film. And with that extra time, the idea is that Hasbro would have had more updated designs to work with, hence the differences in design.
But since the film was delayed, the toys that should have already been out will now come out at the same time as the toys that were always meant to come later. Hence why we get 2 deluxe Airazors at once, both seemingly as complex, transformation wise, but different in design.
Below are some of the Studio Series Rise of the Beasts figures we know are coming in 2023 along with Airazor.
TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Bumblebee (Codename: George)
TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Airazor (Codename: Titan)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Mirage (Codename: Pluto)
Tra Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Wheeljack (Codename: Barcelona)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Nightbird (Codename Outlaw)
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Cheetor (Codename: Butch)
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Battletrap (Codename: Appolo)
Tra Gen Studio series Voy TF7 Rhinox (Codename: Warrior)
So that means what we are seeing with Airazor will also happen with Bumblebee, Wheeljack, Nightbird and Mirage. 2 deluxe toys, both similar in complexity, but with different designs. We don't know if Hasbro will try avoiding to have them on the shelves at the same time or not.
Hopefully that cleared things up for some people.
![Transformers News: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors]( "Transformers News: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors")
This whole confusion is a result of the movie being delayed. The big difference isn't the complexity, it's the sculpt and detail. The initial Airazor we saw is part of the Rise of the Beasts mainline that was supposed to be out months ago. That line mirrors the Earthspark and Cyberverse lines where the entire line is aimed at kids but there are deluxes which may interest fans as well due to their more standard complexity. Since these were worked on early, all toys in that line are based on early movie designs so that they could be sold in stores in summer of 2022 for kids and parents to buy, along with the 2022 holiday season. Also, it would be a unified class so all bots would be relatively the same size, and there would just be deluxes, no voyagers or leaders. That is the line the initial Airazor is from. Below is an image along with the listing for that Airazor and the other characters in the deluxe class of that ROTB movie line (Core Boy means the toys are aimed at 8 year old boys).
Tra Mv7 Core Boy Deluxe Class Ast with the EAN: 5010993983308
Deluxe Bumblebee (Codename: George)
Deluxe Mirage (Codename: Pluto)
Deluxe Wheeljack (Codename: Barcelona)
Deluxe Airazor (Codename: Titan)
Deluxe Nightbird (Codename: Outlaw)
The Studio Series one first shown just a few hours ago is from the 2023 Studio Series line that was always going to come out in 2023, so one year after the film. And with that extra time, the idea is that Hasbro would have had more updated designs to work with, hence the differences in design.
But since the film was delayed, the toys that should have already been out will now come out at the same time as the toys that were always meant to come later. Hence why we get 2 deluxe Airazors at once, both seemingly as complex, transformation wise, but different in design.
Below are some of the Studio Series Rise of the Beasts figures we know are coming in 2023 along with Airazor.
TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Bumblebee (Codename: George)
TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Airazor (Codename: Titan)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Mirage (Codename: Pluto)
Tra Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Wheeljack (Codename: Barcelona)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Nightbird (Codename Outlaw)
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Cheetor (Codename: Butch)
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Battletrap (Codename: Appolo)
Tra Gen Studio series Voy TF7 Rhinox (Codename: Warrior)
So that means what we are seeing with Airazor will also happen with Bumblebee, Wheeljack, Nightbird and Mirage. 2 deluxe toys, both similar in complexity, but with different designs. We don't know if Hasbro will try avoiding to have them on the shelves at the same time or not.
Hopefully that cleared things up for some people.
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Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149791)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 23rd, 2022 @ 12:58am CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 23rd, 2022 @ 12:58am CST
Orange truck looks great, maybe a bit too square/angular in vehicle mode but a definite buy for me. Also liking the head, the move away from the live action hideousnous is good. Kinda reminds me of armada red alert.
Air razor is confusing and the head is five steps backwards. Bird mode looks a little bit less cyber but I think the first wins out. If it has cyber parts might as well embrace them. I might prefer bot mode on this one but the other one saves me from head swapping.
Air razor is confusing and the head is five steps backwards. Bird mode looks a little bit less cyber but I think the first wins out. If it has cyber parts might as well embrace them. I might prefer bot mode on this one but the other one saves me from head swapping.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149794)
Posted by X3ROhour on November 23rd, 2022 @ 1:46am CST
Posted by X3ROhour on November 23rd, 2022 @ 1:46am CST
WOOOOOW!
ROTB BATTLETRAP...![:-?]( "Thinking")
hmm... a movie figure that I don't immediately hate!
Fascinating.
I haven't seen any movie fig put a smile on my face since - IDK - ummmmm... Dropkick's helicopter figure?
It looks like maybe we are moving towards bots that don't look like they forgot to put on their outer chassis when they ran out of the house late for work!
Usually Baybots tend to look like Robot chickens or bugs or a bunch of wires and knives that young Anikin Skywalker forgot to ask his mom to get coverings for.
I might actually lift my self-imposed ban on movie-bots, if we continue with this trend!
Airazor, on the other hand, looks like @#$%!!!
Kidding!
She looks even better than the previous one.
We shall see.
ROTB BATTLETRAP...
hmm... a movie figure that I don't immediately hate!
Fascinating.
I haven't seen any movie fig put a smile on my face since - IDK - ummmmm... Dropkick's helicopter figure?
It looks like maybe we are moving towards bots that don't look like they forgot to put on their outer chassis when they ran out of the house late for work!
Usually Baybots tend to look like Robot chickens or bugs or a bunch of wires and knives that young Anikin Skywalker forgot to ask his mom to get coverings for.
I might actually lift my self-imposed ban on movie-bots, if we continue with this trend!
Airazor, on the other hand, looks like @#$%!!!
Kidding!
She looks even better than the previous one.
We shall see.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149795)
Posted by JazZeke on November 23rd, 2022 @ 2:00am CST
Posted by JazZeke on November 23rd, 2022 @ 2:00am CST
I might just pick up the mainline version. The SS toy looks like it transforms the same as Kingdom/BW Airazor, and I'm feeling like we've been there and done that for an already simple transformation. I really like the look of the mainline's transformation, with the legs becoming the wings similar to my favorite toy out of the entire Unicron Trilogy, Divebomb.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149796)
Posted by SpaceEagle on November 23rd, 2022 @ 2:37am CST
Posted by SpaceEagle on November 23rd, 2022 @ 2:37am CST
Battletrap looks absolutely amazing. Gonna be nice getting him and putting him with the rest of the Movie 'Cons. He'll fit right in with the other car 'Cons.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149797)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 23rd, 2022 @ 3:14am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 23rd, 2022 @ 3:14am CST
It'll be interesting to see which one will be more screen accurate, in theory it should be the Studio Series one but they may have tweaked the cgi models even further with the delay.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149805)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 23rd, 2022 @ 6:23am CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 23rd, 2022 @ 6:23am CST
Can we just talk about how the mainline airazor would be a perfect starting point for a really good terrorsaur figure?
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149806)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 23rd, 2022 @ 6:26am CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 23rd, 2022 @ 6:26am CST
I really want both of these molds in my collection but I don't need three Airazors. Hopefully these get recolors or slight retools into other characters at some point.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149807)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 23rd, 2022 @ 6:42am CST
That's just the head, like for Legacy Bulkhead.
I mean not only bug-faces, but chicken legs, multiple arms, overkill of mechanical details, truly ALIEN designs.
This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".
Stiiiiiiiiiil, he's pretty damn awesome and it will be one of the rare movie toy that I'll pre-order.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 23rd, 2022 @ 6:42am CST
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:These "movie" bots looks like Generations toys.
I like them, but call me weird but I kinda miss the alien designs of the first 3 movies.
Well it definitely doesnt help that this movie airazor is absed on a generations toy. But Battletrap looks as Bayverse as can be. There's the shot of him next to Bayverse Hot Rod and they look like they come from the same film. Granted, Hot Rod is a design post the initial trilogy, but still Bayverse.
That's just the head, like for Legacy Bulkhead.
I mean not only bug-faces, but chicken legs, multiple arms, overkill of mechanical details, truly ALIEN designs.
This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".
Stiiiiiiiiiil, he's pretty damn awesome and it will be one of the rare movie toy that I'll pre-order.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149808)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 23rd, 2022 @ 7:06am CST
I don't know, the Bumblebee movie designs were hewing pretty close to pre-Bay - even the Decepticons, who traditionally had the more xenomorph-esque designs.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 23rd, 2022 @ 7:06am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:I mean not only bug-faces, but chicken legs, multiple arms, overkill of mechanical details, truly ALIEN designs.
This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".
I don't know, the Bumblebee movie designs were hewing pretty close to pre-Bay - even the Decepticons, who traditionally had the more xenomorph-esque designs.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149815)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 23rd, 2022 @ 9:17am CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 23rd, 2022 @ 9:17am CST
Wow wow wow wow wow!
Battletrap looks REALLY good. They got the beef of the alt mode, which is a truck mode that I am particularly attached to from my family history. And that robot mode is incredible. It's a great mix of standard Transformers and Bayverse, complete with a wonderful movie head. And the colors look great on him. and a wrecking ball weapon! I have absolutely zero bad things to say.
I don't really care about the Airazor conundrum, both look good to me for different reasons, and both will end up on my movie shelves.
Battletrap looks REALLY good. They got the beef of the alt mode, which is a truck mode that I am particularly attached to from my family history. And that robot mode is incredible. It's a great mix of standard Transformers and Bayverse, complete with a wonderful movie head. And the colors look great on him. and a wrecking ball weapon! I have absolutely zero bad things to say.
I don't really care about the Airazor conundrum, both look good to me for different reasons, and both will end up on my movie shelves.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149818)
Posted by First-Aid on November 23rd, 2022 @ 9:24am CST
The Bee movie was the "happy medium", I feel, between the truly alien Bay designs (which make sense because, y'know, alien robots who don't necessarily have a "human" perspective, just the mechanical efficiency perspective). More G1 blocky feel but still streamlined.
Posted by First-Aid on November 23rd, 2022 @ 9:24am CST
Dr. Caelus wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I mean not only bug-faces, but chicken legs, multiple arms, overkill of mechanical details, truly ALIEN designs.
This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".
I don't know, the Bumblebee movie designs were hewing pretty close to pre-Bay - even the Decepticons, who traditionally had the more xenomorph-esque designs.
The Bee movie was the "happy medium", I feel, between the truly alien Bay designs (which make sense because, y'know, alien robots who don't necessarily have a "human" perspective, just the mechanical efficiency perspective). More G1 blocky feel but still streamlined.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149819)
Posted by william-james88 on November 23rd, 2022 @ 9:47am CST
I get that, but the designs changed within Bay's time as well, during the previous soft reboot that happened with AOE where Optimus' design change drastically. This goes more with those, like Drift, Crosshairs, Hound, Hot Rod, the new Barricade, ect. Still Bayverse but from a different period.
Posted by william-james88 on November 23rd, 2022 @ 9:47am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:
This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".
Stiiiiiiiiiil, he's pretty damn awesome and it will be one of the rare movie toy that I'll pre-order.
I get that, but the designs changed within Bay's time as well, during the previous soft reboot that happened with AOE where Optimus' design change drastically. This goes more with those, like Drift, Crosshairs, Hound, Hot Rod, the new Barricade, ect. Still Bayverse but from a different period.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149828)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 23rd, 2022 @ 10:20am CST
Well, I wish they would go crazy with the designs again.
A fully CGI series based on the home planet of the ROTB beastformers would allow that.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 23rd, 2022 @ 10:20am CST
william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:
This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".
Stiiiiiiiiiil, he's pretty damn awesome and it will be one of the rare movie toy that I'll pre-order.
I get that, but the designs changed within Bay's time as well, during the previous soft reboot that happened with AOE where Optimus' design change drastically. This goes more with those, like Drift, Crosshairs, Hound, Hot Rod, the new Barricade, ect. Still Bayverse but from a different period.
Well, I wish they would go crazy with the designs again.
A fully CGI series based on the home planet of the ROTB beastformers would allow that.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149829)
Posted by First-Aid on November 23rd, 2022 @ 10:25am CST
That won't work. It's too original and not G1 enough.
That was sarcasm.
Posted by First-Aid on November 23rd, 2022 @ 10:25am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:
This Battletrap looks too "normal" to be "truly Bayverse".
Stiiiiiiiiiil, he's pretty damn awesome and it will be one of the rare movie toy that I'll pre-order.
I get that, but the designs changed within Bay's time as well, during the previous soft reboot that happened with AOE where Optimus' design change drastically. This goes more with those, like Drift, Crosshairs, Hound, Hot Rod, the new Barricade, ect. Still Bayverse but from a different period.
Well, I wish they would go crazy with the designs again.
A fully CGI series based on the home planet of the ROTB beastformers would allow that.
That won't work. It's too original and not G1 enough.
That was sarcasm.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149830)
Posted by william-james88 on November 23rd, 2022 @ 10:44am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 23rd, 2022 @ 10:44am CST
With our first look, yesterday, at two Studio Series toys coming out in 2023, I thought it would be a good time to consolidate all the listings we got to give you a full view of what is coming out next year in that line. It will be a mix of toys for characters from the Rise of the Beasts movie (labelled as TF7 in toy listings, two of which are still code names), War for Cybertron High Moon Game, 86 Movie Michael Bay films (of which there is only one so far). We do not know the full wave breakdown and that will always be subject to change, but below you will find the full list organized by price point. This does not include exclusive Studio Series toys like the upcoming Hatchet.
Core Class:
Tra Gen Studio series Core TF3 Bumblebee
Tra Gen Studio series 86 core Frenzy
Tra Gen Studio series 86 core Ironhide
Tra Gen studio series core TF7 code name Delta2
Tra Gen Studio series Core TF7 code name Hydra
Deluxe Class:
TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Bumblebee (Codename: George)
TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Airazor (Codename: Titan)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Mirage (Codename: Pluto)
Tra Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Wheeljack (Codename: Barcelona)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Nightbird (Codename: Outlaw)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx WFC Barricade
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Bumblebee
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Cliffjumper
Tra Gen Studio series 86 Dlx Brawn
Voyager Class:
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Cheetor (Codename: Butch)
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Battletrap (Codename: Appolo)
Tra Gen Studio series Voy TF7 Rhinox (Codename: Warrior)
Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Megatron
Tra Gen Studio series VOY WFC Optimus Prime
Tra Gen Studio series 86 voyager Ratchet
Leader Class:
Tra Gen Studio Series Leader TF7 Optimus Primal (Codename: Cyclops)
Tra Gen Studio Series Leader TF7 Scourge (Codename: Oscar)
Tra Gen Studio Series 86 Leader Snarl
Core Class:
Tra Gen Studio series Core TF3 Bumblebee
Tra Gen Studio series 86 core Frenzy
Tra Gen Studio series 86 core Ironhide
Tra Gen studio series core TF7 code name Delta2
Tra Gen Studio series Core TF7 code name Hydra
Deluxe Class:
TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Bumblebee (Codename: George)
TRA Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Airazor (Codename: Titan)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Mirage (Codename: Pluto)
Tra Gen Studio Series DLX TF7 Wheeljack (Codename: Barcelona)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx TF7 Nightbird (Codename: Outlaw)
Tra Gen Studio series Dlx WFC Barricade
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Bumblebee
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Cliffjumper
Tra Gen Studio series 86 Dlx Brawn
Voyager Class:
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Cheetor (Codename: Butch)
TRA Gen Studio Series VOY TF7 Battletrap (Codename: Appolo)
Tra Gen Studio series Voy TF7 Rhinox (Codename: Warrior)
Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Megatron
Tra Gen Studio series VOY WFC Optimus Prime
Tra Gen Studio series 86 voyager Ratchet
Leader Class:
Tra Gen Studio Series Leader TF7 Optimus Primal (Codename: Cyclops)
Tra Gen Studio Series Leader TF7 Scourge (Codename: Oscar)
Tra Gen Studio Series 86 Leader Snarl
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149831)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 23rd, 2022 @ 11:11am CST
I didn't realise the Studio Series High Moon figures were appearing so soon?
Suddenly thinking ahead to (maybe) SS Metroplex and Bruticus??
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 23rd, 2022 @ 11:11am CST
william-james88 wrote:Tra Gen Studio series Dlx WFC Barricade
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Bumblebee
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Cliffjumper
Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Megatron
Tra Gen Studio series VOY WFC Optimus Prime
Tra Gen Studio series 86 voyager Ratchet
I didn't realise the Studio Series High Moon figures were appearing so soon?
Suddenly thinking ahead to (maybe) SS Metroplex and Bruticus??
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149833)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 23rd, 2022 @ 11:36am CST
I have a feeling you'll be waiting a bit longer for those two.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 23rd, 2022 @ 11:36am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:william-james88 wrote:Tra Gen Studio series Dlx WFC Barricade
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Bumblebee
Tra Gen studio series Dlx WFC Cliffjumper
Tra Gen Studio series Voy WFC Megatron
Tra Gen Studio series VOY WFC Optimus Prime
Tra Gen Studio series 86 voyager Ratchet
I didn't realise the Studio Series High Moon figures were appearing so soon?
Suddenly thinking ahead to (maybe) SS Metroplex and Bruticus??
I have a feeling you'll be waiting a bit longer for those two.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149834)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 23rd, 2022 @ 11:45am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 23rd, 2022 @ 11:45am CST
True. But for those people asking for a new/redux Metroplex. I'd say it would likely be this one.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149835)
Posted by william-james88 on November 23rd, 2022 @ 12:13pm CST
That's doesnt make sense to me since the previous Metroplex was the one from WFC. We'd get a more g1 accurate Metroplex before revisiting a WFC Metroplex.
Posted by william-james88 on November 23rd, 2022 @ 12:13pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. But for those people asking for a new/redux Metroplex. I'd say it would likely be this one.
That's doesnt make sense to me since the previous Metroplex was the one from WFC. We'd get a more g1 accurate Metroplex before revisiting a WFC Metroplex.
Re: A Tale of 2 ROTB Airazors (2149836)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 23rd, 2022 @ 12:26pm CST
This is my thinking, and I'm surprised Warden left before he got a crack at it. As it is, i can't see them doing Metroplex till 2025? Gives them a couple of years removed from Cybertron Metroplex.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 23rd, 2022 @ 12:26pm CST
william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. But for those people asking for a new/redux Metroplex. I'd say it would likely be this one.
That's doesnt make sense to me since the previous Metroplex was the one from WFC. We'd get a more g1 accurate Metroplex before revisiting a WFC Metroplex.
This is my thinking, and I'm surprised Warden left before he got a crack at it. As it is, i can't see them doing Metroplex till 2025? Gives them a couple of years removed from Cybertron Metroplex.
